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Title: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:08:54 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=88409;image)

Map of Madagascar.



From Wikipedia:

The Republic of Madagascar, previously known as the Malagasy Republic, is an island country in the Indian Ocean. It has a population of around 25 million and its capital city is Antananarivo. The country lies approximately 400 kilometres (250 miles) off the coast of East Africa. The nation comprises the island of Madagascar (the fourth-largest island in the world) and numerous smaller peripheral islands. Following the prehistoric breakup of the super-continent Gondwana, Madagascar split from the Indian subcontinent around 88 million years ago, allowing native plants and animals to evolve in relative isolation. Consequently, Madagascar is a biodiversity hotspot; over 90% of its wildlife is found nowhere else on Earth.

Human settlement of Madagascar occurred between 350 BC and 550 AD by Austronesian peoples, arriving on outrigger canoes from Borneo. These were joined around the 9th century AD by Bantu migrants crossing the Mozambique Channel from East Africa. Other groups continued to settle on Madagascar over time, each one making lasting contributions to Malagasy cultural life. The Malagasy ethnic group is often divided into 18 or more subgroups, of which the largest are the Merina of the central highlands.

Until the late 18th century, the island of Madagascar was ruled by a fragmented assortment of shifting sociopolitical alliances. Beginning in the early 19th century, most of the island was united and ruled as the Kingdom of Madagascar by a series of Merina nobles. The monarchy ended in 1897 when the island was absorbed into the French colonial empire, from which the island gained independence in 1960.

Madagascar belongs to the group of least developed countries, according to the United Nations. Malagasy and French are both official languages of the state. The majority of the population adheres to traditional beliefs, Christianity, or an amalgamation of both.

 
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:13:42 PM
Madagascar's first modern coins were issued in 1943. At this time France, the colony's ruler, was under the control of the Nazis. However, the Free French were still in control of Madagascar. This can be seen from the traditional French symbols on the coins, such as the cockerel and the Cross of Lorraine.

The coins were minted in South Africa. The designs were the work of South African engraver Coert Laurens Steynberg.

Below you see the 50 centimes of 1943.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:17:16 PM
The 1 franc denomination was the only other coin in this set. Both were issued in 1943 only.

Images courtesy of numisbids.com.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:21:24 PM
Madagascar's next colonial coins were issued in 1948. They were the 1 and 2 francs and were made of aluminium.

The obverse shows Marianne, symbol of France, wearing a winged Phrygian cap. The ships in the background indicate that this is an oversea colony. The design was the work of French engraver Lucien Bazor.

See also: Designs that show ships or boats sailing in the background (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,35561.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:43:26 PM
The reverse of the 1 franc coin features the heads of three zebus. This attractive design was once more the work of French engraver Lucien Bazor.

A sprig from a coffee plant (left) and some rice stalks (right) also decorate the design.

See also: Many heads on one design (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,23084.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:44:24 PM
The reverse of the 2 francs coin, also first issued in 1948, carried a similar design.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:48:20 PM
1953 saw the release of an aluminium 5 francs coin. Its obverse and reverse designs were similar to those of the 1 and 2 francs coins.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 09:59:10 PM
In 1953 the final two coins were added to the series. These were the 10 and 20 franc coins, minted in aluminium-bronze.

The common obverse once more featured Marianne. Below you see the "essai" version. The standard version looked exactly the same, except that the word "ESSAI" was omitted.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 10:06:17 PM
The reverse of the 10 francs coin carried another stunningly beautiful design by Lucien Bazor. In the centre lies a map of Madagascar, with the wavy lines presumably representing the surrounding sea. The word "FRANCS" is superimposed on a pair of zebu horns. Coffee plants, rice stalks, vanilla plants and maize also appear in the design. The island map appears to be flanked by a carving that represents butterflies, topped by a cross within a circle, while an animal, perhaps some sort of dog or wolf, stands at the very top.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 10:10:58 PM
The reverse of the 20 francs coin carried the same design, though with the relevant denomination.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:44:03 PM
From Wikipedia:

The flag of Madagascar was adopted on 14 October 1958, two years before the independence of that nation, as Madagascar prepared for a referendum on its status in the French Community.

The colors of the flag represent Madagascar's history and traditional peasant classes. Red and white were the colors of the Merina kingdom, which succumbed to France in 1896. They were used in the flag of the last Merina monarch, Queen Ranavalona III. They may indicate the ethnic origins of the Malagasy people in Southeast Asia, and are shared by the flag of Indonesia. Green was the color of the Hova, the largest class of peasant commoners, who played a significant role in anti-French agitation and the independence movement.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:44:56 PM
Madagascar became independent from France in June 1960, with the official name of the Malagasy Republic. The country had adopted an official national seal in December 1959. This is the equivalent of the coat of arms in other countries. The seal shows the top of a traveller’s tree (Ravenala madagascariensis - Strelitziaceae), a zebu's’s head, and two ears of rice.

The motto reads:

• REPOBLIKA MALAGASY • FAHAFA­HANA •  TANINDRAZANA •  FANDROSOANA 

In English: Republic of Malagasy, Freedom, Fatherland, Progress.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:49:05 PM
From Wikipedia:

The ariary is the currency of Madagascar. It is subdivided into 5 iraimbilanja and is one of only two non-decimal currencies currently circulating (the other is the Mauritanian ouguiya). The names ariary and iraimbilanja derive from the pre-colonial currency, with ariary (from the Spanish word "real") being the name for a silver dollar. Iraimbilanja means literally "one iron weight" and was the name of an old coin worth ​1⁄5 of an ariary.

The ariary was introduced in 1961. It was equal to 5 Malagasy francs. Coins and banknotes were issued denominated in both francs and ariary, with the sub-unit of the ariary, the iraimbilanja, worth ​1⁄5 of an ariary and therefore equal to the franc. The ariary replaced the franc as the official currency of Madagascar on January 1, 2005.

In 1965, 1 franc (1 iraimbilanja) and 2 francs (venty sy kirobo) coins were issued, followed by 5 francs (1 ariary) in 1966 and 10 and 20 francs (2 and 4 ariary) in 1970. The term "venty sy kirobo" derives from names used in the 19th century for ​1⁄6 and ​1⁄4 of a silver dollar or 5 francs piece, since ​1⁄6+​1⁄4=​5⁄12 of 5 francs is approximately 2 francs.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:53:21 PM
The common obverse of the 1, 2 and 5 franc coins featured a poinsettia flower.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:53:44 PM
Poinsettia flowers.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:56:01 PM
The reverse design of the 1 franc coin featured elements that are familiar from previous coins and from the national seal: the head of a zebu, flanked by a rice stalk and a coffee plant sprig.

The iraimbilanja was worth ​1⁄5 of an ariary and was therefore equal to the French franc.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 08, 2019, 11:58:06 PM
The reverse design of the 2 francs coin featured the same elements, though with the relevant denomination.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 12:00:10 AM
The reverse of the 5 francs coin, which was first issued in 1966.

The 1, 2 and 5 francs coins were all made of stainless steel.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 12:54:29 AM
In 1970 two new denominations were issued: 10 francs and 20 francs.

The reverse of the 10 francs coin features the standard design by Raymond Joly.

ARIARY ROA means TWO ARIARY.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 12:59:21 AM
The reverse design of the 10 francs coin featured a vanilla plant.

Until now, all the designs since 1965 had been the work of Frenchman Raymond Joly. This design was created by Madagascan artist Bernard Ramjato.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 01:00:42 AM
The reverse of the 20 francs coin features the standard design by Raymond Joly.

Like the 10 francs coin, this coin was made of aluminium-bronze.

ARIARY EFATRA means FOUR ARIARY.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 01:02:33 AM
The reverse design of the 20 francs coin featured a cotton plant. This design was created by Madagascan artist Bernard Ramjato.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 01:05:54 AM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88426;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88429;image)

Notice the zebu's eyes and ears. Their shape on the 10 and 20 francs coins looks slightly different from their shape of the 1, 2 and 5 francs coins.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 05:48:21 PM
From Wikipedia:

A constitutional referendum was held in Madagascar on 21 December 1975. The new constitution created a presidential republic, with the president serving seven-year terms and incumbent President Didier Ratsiraka was to serve the first term without being elected. It also created a High Revolutionary Council to create a "socialist revolution" and a military committee to oversee socio-economic development. Madagascar was transformed into the Democratic Republic of Madagascar. All political parties with the exception of those "loyal to the socialist revolution" were to be banned, and those that were allowed to exist would have to be affiliated with the National Front for the Defense of the Revolution, which was led by Ratsiraka's AREMA party. The constitution was approved by 95.57% of voters with a 92% voter turnout.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 05:51:29 PM
Politically Madagascar now moved in a communistic direction. Accordingly, the country adopted a new national seal, showing an orange disc with a sun rising from a blue sea, charged with a rifle, a spade and a pen, with three arrows above and a cogwheel below. The emblem is surrounded by a garland with a red star as a crest.

Motto: TANINDRAZANA / TOLOM-PIAVOTANA / FAHAFAHANA (Fatherland, Revolution, Freedom).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:00:19 PM
The next new coins were issued in 1978, namely a 10 ariary and 20 ariary coin. These were the first coins that did not show their value in francs. The legends on these coins gave the country's new title as the Democratic Malagasy Republic.

Previously Madagascar's coins had been minted in Paris, France, but now they were produced by the Royal Mint (UK). The new obverse and reverse designs were the work of English artist and sculptor Michael Hibbit (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8757.0.html).

Both coins were made of nickel. Below you see the obverse of the proof 10 ariary coin.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:01:33 PM
The reverse of the 10 ariary coin shows a farmer cutting peat against a background of fields and hills.

See also: Occupations: Agriculture and forestry (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,30598.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:02:40 PM
The obverse of the 20 ariary coin.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:04:21 PM
The reverse of the 20 ariary coin shows a man on a tractor ploughing a field. The rising sun in the background is typical of revolutionary symbolism that promises a new dawn and therefore a new future.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:11:16 PM
These distinctly socialist or communistic designs continued to circulate alongside the older designs of plants and zebus that had originated in the 1960s. The older designs looked rather old-fashioned by this stage. The new designs looked more modern, though communism as a force in world politics was now only 11 years away from its major collapse in 1989.

The coinage at this point no longer had a unity of style. Perhaps the lower denominations should have been redesigned too, or perhaps the country, which was and is quite poor, did not want to undertake such an expense. In any case, this mismatch of design style between the lower and higher denominations continues to this day.

See also: Circulation sets with poorly unified design (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,19015.0.html).

 
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:38:17 PM
In 1991 the 2 ariary / 10 francs coin was minted in copper-plated steel, so it now had a new colour. The old legends were retained, so the country title was out of date, and the denomination still referenced francs.

The mint marks that had previously appeared at either side of the zebu's face, and looking perhaps like teardrops, were now removed.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 06:39:16 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88429;image)

Here is a reminder of the previous version of the coin. Both versions are in fact of the same size.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 07:10:48 PM
In 1991 the Royal Canadian Mint had taken over the minting of Madagascar's coins. ***

In 1992 a new denomination was added to the series: a 5 ariary coin. The coin was made of copper-plated steel. Below you see an image of the obverse, showing the country's proper title at that time. Interestingly, the word "ariary" now appeared in lower case letters, just as it had done on the 10 and 20 ariary coins that had been introduced of 1978.

*** NOTE: According to the coin catalogues. But see also: here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44944.msg282806.html#msg282806).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 07:14:15 PM
The reverse of the 5 ariary coin featured a rice plant. The style of the design was similar to that of the 10 and 20 ariary coins.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 07:35:07 PM
In 1992 the previously round nickel 10 ariary coin was now produced as a heptagonal steel coin. The new coin was minted by the Royal Canadian Mint.

See also: An Alphabet of Heptagons: Seven-Sided Coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9903.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 07:57:15 PM
Also in 1992, the previously round nickel 20 ariary coin was now produced as a 10-sided steel coin. The new coin was minted by the Royal Canadian Mint. Both the new 10 and 20 ariary coins were smaller in diameter by 2.5 mm than their previous versions.

See also: Polygonal coins have many sides and many facets (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9889.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 08:28:58 PM
Also in 1992, a new denomination was added to the coinage: the 50 ariary. It was made of steel and was 11-sided. The design depicted an avenue of baobab trees.

Below you see the obverse of the coin.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 08:29:54 PM
Below you see the reverse of the 50 ariary coin.

See also: Trees on coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8770.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 08:30:21 PM
From Wikipedia:

Adansonia grandidieri, sometimes known as Grandidier's baobab, is the biggest and most famous of Madagascar's six species of baobabs. This imposing and unusual tree is endemic to the island of Madagascar, where it is an endangered species threatened by the encroachment of agricultural land.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 08:42:04 PM
Towards the end of 1992, the Third Republic of Madagascar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Republic_of_Madagascar) was declared. This followed the dissolution of the socialist regime. The country now adopted a new national seal and a new motto: Tanindrazana, Fahafahana, Fandrosoana - "Fatherland, Freedom, Progress".
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 09:23:43 PM
In 1994 the first coin was issued that reflected the country's new title and motto: the 20 ariary.

See also: Tractors and combine harvesters (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,19251.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 09:26:37 PM
Apparently the 5 ariary was also issued in 1994 with amended text. However, the earliest I have found is dated 1996.

First, though, I will show the amended 50 ariary of 1996.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 09:42:18 PM
The lowest denomination with amended text that was issued in 1996 was the 1 ariary / 5 francs coin.

The obverse of the coin carries the text:

BANKY FOIBEN'I MADAGASIKARA

which translates as "Central Bank of Madagascar".

See also: Issuing authorities named on coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,26400.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 09:50:46 PM
This is the amended 2 ariary / 10 francs coin of 1996.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 10:02:24 PM
This is the amended 5 ariary coin of 1996.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 10:38:24 PM
In 1998 the seal and emblem of Madagascar were changed yet again. The new motto, "Tanindrazana, Fahafahana, Fandrosoana", translates as "Fatherland, Freedom, Progress".
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 10:50:32 PM
In 1999 the first two coins were issued that carried an amended legend, which reflected the new motto.

Below you see the 10 ariary coin.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2019, 10:51:15 PM
Below you see the 20 ariary coin with the amended legend.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 12:18:41 AM
The 50 ariary coin with the amended legend was not issued until 2005.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 12:53:25 AM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88424;image)

Here is a reminder of the obverse of the 1, 2 and 5 franc coins, when they were first issued in 1965.

The 2 and 5 franc coins continued to be issued right up to and including 1989, and always with that outdated country title. After 1989, those two coins were no longer issued with the outdated title.

However, the outdated country title survived on the 1 franc coin until 2002. After that year, it was no longer minted.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 01:12:50 AM
In 2003 a 2 ariary coin was minted for the first time. It was made of copper-plated steel and replaced the 10 francs coin, which had the same value.

Interestingly, it was the first low denomination coin to show the word "ariary" in lower case letters. Strangely, the denomination appears twice on the reverse, being repeated entirely in words but in upper case letters as "ARIARY ROA". Does any other world coin do this?

From 2003, no more coins were issued that included the word "FRANC" or "FRANCS" in the denomination. Only the word "ARIARY" was used from now on.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 01:15:19 AM
In 2004 the first coin was issued with a stated denomination of "1 ARIARY". Previously a 5 francs coin was issued that showed the words "5 FRANCS" and "ARIARY", since an ariary was indeed equivalent to 5 francs.

In the obverse, mint marks now appeared either side of the year for the first time.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 01:19:44 AM
Strangely, yet another version of the 1 ariary coin was also issued in 2004. This time the legend showed "ARIARY 1" instead of "1 ARIARY". However, the word order now conforms with that on the 2 ariary coin. Still, the word "ARIARY" remains in upper case letters on the 1 ariary coin, while it is in lower case letters on the 2 ariary coin.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 01:31:10 AM
The coinage since independence shows many variations. The country motto and title have appeared in three different forms, while the fonts used have also varied over time, along with the placing of the mint marks (when present) and the sprigs on the reverse designs. The use of the word "FRANC" or "FRANCS" has sometimes been combined with "ARIARY" and sometimes not. Sometimes the word "ARIARY" is shown in lower case, sometimes not.

To my knowledge, there have been no noteworthy developments in the coinage since 2004. Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: gerard974 on March 10, 2019, 04:07:58 PM
hello t
you are right he last coins minted are
2 ariary 2003
1 ariary 2004 and
50 ariary 2005
after no coins but new notes and new value ,the biggest 20 000 ariary
Best regards Gerard
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 04:09:42 PM
Thanks. Have you ever visited your big neighbour?
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: gerard974 on March 10, 2019, 04:44:03 PM
Hello <k>
Yes since 2004 i go all the years 10 days on one very very small island "Sainte Marie " is little but is one paradise . On this island is no more cars ,just the hotels but many many "tuk tuk",is just one road ?? on the left side of the island on the right side in brown and red is tracks. Is also  difficult to find olds coins ,the new don't circulating because the biggest notes 20 000 ariary is  7 euros . The salaire of one people is around 50 euros by month . And this salaire is very good ,no more workers have this . On you tube you have many films and also on "ile aux nattes" smalest than Sainte Marie and no cars just to walk .
Now i go to drink one beer at your health because write that in English is very hard for me .


(https://i83.servimg.com/u/f83/14/89/20/87/sm10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/14892087/1412)
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 05:15:29 PM
It sounds like fun.  :)  But I thought that the French drink only fine wine - not beer.  ;)
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 09:44:57 PM
Incidentally, our forum member africancoins has some excellent information on Madagascar's privy marks and denomination names. You can see it here (http://africa.worldofcoins.eu/af-mad.htm).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: africancoins on March 10, 2019, 11:00:27 PM
Regarding...

>>In 1991 the Royal Canadian Mint had taken over the minting of Madagascar's coins.<<

What about the information in the third section of this page...

Africa - Coins of Madagascar (http://africa.worldofcoins.eu/af-mad.htm)  ?

Thanks Mr Paul Baker


Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2019, 11:40:32 PM
I quote your text:

This new privy mark, a “bee”, can be seen on the Republic of Madagascar 5 Francs of 1996 (KM-21). This is a strong suggestion that all Madagascar/Malagasy pieces of denominations 1, 2 and 5 Francs in Stainless Steel have always been made in France and hence never by the RCM. As for the other 1990’s circulation coins of Madagascar - there is various evidence that they are all products of the RCM.

I missed that part! Admittedly mints and privy marks are not my strong point, but others will be interested.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: milkshakespeare on March 11, 2019, 10:28:44 AM
The Russian Goznak has been expanding their coin export business and I quite recently read somewhere that Madagascar is one of their new clients. That probably means that there will be new dates or possibly even new types coming soon.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 11:41:34 AM
That would be very interesting. Madagascar really needs a new modern set, whose designs have a unity of style. The current series is old-fashioned and disjointed.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: eurocoin on March 11, 2019, 12:31:38 PM
Very interesting news indeed!

From a press release of Goznak of 18 January 2018:

Quote
Meanwhile, thanks to the completion of a large-scale modernization at the Moscow Mint last year, the company has also achieved significant advance in the international coin market – last year Goznak received    orders for the production of small coins for the central banks of Columbia, Zambia and Madagascar.

So in 2017 they received these orders.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: eurocoin on March 11, 2019, 12:57:45 PM
hello t
you are right he last coins minted are
2 ariary 2003
1 ariary 2004 and
50 ariary 2005
after no coins but new notes and new value ,the biggest 20 000 ariary
Best regards Gerard

Coins of 10 and 50 ariary dated 2016 were issued too.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: Pabitra on March 11, 2019, 01:05:14 PM
In 2016, both 10 and 50 Ariary were issued.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 01:13:41 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=88577;image)



More about how the denomination is shown on Madagascan coins. Traditionally, when humans read vertically, they read from top to bottom. So, looking at the coins above, you would read "ariary five, ariary ten", and so on.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88470;image)

Now look at the coin above. You see "ariary roa". Therefore, it is clear that Madagascans, in their own language, place the adjectival numeral after the noun: "ariary two", rather than the "two ariary" that you would see in English and most European languages. Of course, it is common in some languages to place general adjectives after the noun: the French say "une maison blanche", but the English say "a white house".



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88473;image)

And in 2004 Madagascar released the coin above. It is clear in which direction the denominations (as shown in the textual part of the design) are going. But are they all uniform now? I think not.

 
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 01:51:31 PM
Here we see another difference in the presentation of the designs. The 10 and 20 ariary coins include a circle of beads (or dots or pearls) on the reverse. The 50 ariary coin does not. The 10 and 20 ariary designs originated at the Royal Mint (UK), whilst the 50 ariary design was the work of the Royal Canadian Mint. So, there is quite a lack of uniformity in the features of the current Madagascan coinage.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 01:54:16 PM
Another point: in some cases the denomination appears on both sides of the coin (5, 10, 20 and 50 ariary). In other cases, the word "ARIARY" sometimes appears in lower case, sometimes in upper case.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 04:30:43 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88430;image)

10 francs / 2 ariary 1970.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88432;image)

20 francs / 4 ariary 1970.



Let's look back at some of the older designs.

Look at the privy marks here: one appears at bottom left; the other appears at middle right.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88442;image)

The 10 francs / 2 ariary of the 1990s has no privy mark.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 04:42:07 PM
Here you see the two different obverse of the 5 francs / 1 ariary coins of 1965 and 1996.

Apart from the different legends, there are different fonts too, most noticeably for the year. One font seems to be larger than the other, too, with regard to the legend.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 04:57:33 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88471;image)

And here is the obverse (left) with the mint marks / privy marks, flanking the year.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 05:00:24 PM
Let's look at the reverse of the 1, 2 and 5 francs of 1965.

On the 1 and 2 francs, the denomination covers part of the zebu's horns. That is not the case with the 5 francs, because the denomination name is shorter. However, on the 5 francs the word "ARIARY" appears at the bottom, so to make room for it, the two sprigs have been pushed apart.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
On the 10 and 20 francs of 1970, the privy marks have been pushed down. They now appear either side of the zebu's snout.

The two sprigs have been pushed somewhat higher up now, in order to leave space for the long literal versions of the denomination names.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 05:12:11 PM
And here are the later versions of the zebu designs.

1] Madagascar 10 ariary 1991 - top left

2] 2 ariary 2003 - top right.

3] 1 ariary 2004 and different 1 ariary 2004 - bottom.



The differences in the positions of the sprigs are clear to see, as are the different fonts and the differences in the numerals.

And there are no privy marks on these later designs.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 05:13:39 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88426;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88429;image)

Notice the zebu's eyes and ears on the earlier coins. Their shape on the later 10 and 20 francs coins looks slightly different from their shape on the earlier 1, 2 and 5 francs coins.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 05:17:10 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88405;image)

Let's look at the coins of 1943 now. Notice the rosettes that flank the year.

The coins were minted in South Africa.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27107.0;attach=73212;image)

Some of the old South African coins also show these rosettes.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39951.0;attach=75138;image)

And again.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: gerard974 on March 11, 2019, 05:26:11 PM
hello
for the 10 and 50 ariary 2016 i dont know what the people make with that . In my two last trip 2017 and 2018 i have never see one coin in a shop . I contact my friend for to seen if he can to have for me in the bank
best regards Gerard
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: milkshakespeare on March 11, 2019, 05:28:55 PM
Coins of 10 and 50 ariary dated 2016 were issued too.

These could well be the Goznak products. They tend to be quite slow to appear, remember Angola 2012-2015 and Libya 2014-2017? I only recently got myself a 2017 Columbian 100 peso piece that is slightly differend than usual.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 06:38:11 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88510;image)

5 ariary 1992.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88460;image)

5 ariary 1996.



Let's look at the different mottoes now.

 
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 06:39:17 PM
Here we see three versions of the 10 ariary coin: two shapes, and two mottoes.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 06:40:32 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44944.0;attach=88441;image)



And now the 20 ariary: two shapes, and THREE mottoes.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 11, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
And now the 50 ariary: ONE shape, and THREE mottoes.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: Pabitra on March 12, 2019, 06:11:18 AM
hello
for the 10 and 50 ariary 2016 i dont know what the people make with that . In my two last trip 2017 and 2018 i have never see one coin in a shop . I contact my friend for to seen if he can to have for me in the bank
best regards Gerard

Small countries have their own peculiar situations.
I was in Cayman Islands in Dec 2014 and met the manager of their Central Bank for new coins.
I was given the 2008 sets.
I was also told that 2013 coins are in stock but can be issued only after 2008 stock is exhausted.
There was no demand for coins and the manager was not hopeful for any increased demand during forthcoming Christmas.
The Royal mint, however insisted that 2013 coin has been releases/ issued to VIPs so should be counted as issued.
I think Madagascar also faces similar situation.
Try contacting their Central Bank.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on March 12, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
I have already mentioned that the current Madagascan coin series lacks a unity of style. It is a "game of two halves": old-fashioned designs from the 1960s, but with very different designs from the 1970s and 1990s for the higher denominations.

Interestingly, a rather different sort of set was proposed in 1973, with several wildlife designs. Unfortunately, by then the government was moving towards communism, and the proposed set was never adopted.

See: Unadopted Madagascar designs of 1973 by Michael Rizzello (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,44972.0.html).
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: Pabitra on May 25, 2019, 02:33:10 PM
2016 coins have new mottos
Since 2016 only had 10 and 50 Ariary coins so we end up with three mottos for 10 Ariary where 50 Ariary has all the four.
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: Pabitra on May 25, 2019, 02:40:22 PM
The coins

Can some one explain what these mottos mean?
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on May 25, 2019, 02:47:28 PM
See: Africa - Coins of Madagascar (http://africa.worldofcoins.eu/af-mad2.htm#mottoes)
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on May 25, 2019, 02:49:18 PM
2016 coins have new mottos
Since 2016 only had 10 and 50 Ariary coins so we end up with three mottos for 10 Ariary where 50 Ariary has all the four.

And here it is the right way up.

Google Translate says: "Love of a country of progress". 
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: Pabitra on May 26, 2019, 04:50:59 AM
Are these Mottos changed officially  ( with due process of Government approval) or just changed every time the new coins are minted?
In other words, are they like South African coins, where the name of the country is changed in one of the several local languages, just to appease the speakers of the local dialects?
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on May 26, 2019, 11:39:56 AM
So far as I can determine, the mottoes are related to different regimes and constitution types: French colony, independent communistic state, the switch to parliamentary democracy.

The last new constitution came into effect in 2010. You can see that there is a lag, often of some years, before the motto appears on the coins.

See also: National Arms of Madagascar - Heraldry of the World (https://www.heraldry-wiki.com/heraldrywiki/index.php/National_Arms_of_Madagascar) .
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: <k> on May 10, 2020, 10:38:46 AM
Former forum member translateltd sent me an interesting observation about the Madagascan language, which is known as Malagasy:


I'm quite fascinated by the language of Madagascar, as it's a Polynesian outlier, so there are a few parallels to spot with the words used on languages nearer here.  The numbers in particular look a lot like those in Indonesian, and to a certain extent, Maori/Tongan/Samoan:

Roa - rua/lua/dua in various Malayo-Polynesian languages
Efatra - empat in Indonesian, (e) wha/fa
Dimy - lima/rima
Folo - (se)puluh, sefulu
Dimampolo - lima puluh
Title: Re: Coinage of Madagascar
Post by: gerard974 on May 10, 2020, 10:51:12 AM
FOR mADAGASCAR
La devise  ‘A’ est “TANINDRAZANA - TOLOM-PIAVOTANA-FAHAFAHANA”, ce qui se traduit par “Patrie - Révolution - Liberté”. Elle a été utilisée sur les pièces de 10 et 20 ariary en 1978 et 1983 et sur les pièces de 5, 10, 20, et 50 ariary en 1992.

La devise  ‘B’ est “TANINDRAZANA-FAHAFAHANA-FAHAMARINANA”, ce qui se traduit par “Patrie - Liberté - Justice”. Elle a été utilisée sur les pièces de 5 et 20 ariary en 1994 et 5 et 50 ariary en 1996.

La devise  ‘C’ est “TANINDRAZANA-FAHAFAHANA-FANDROSOANA” ce qui se traduit par “Patrie - Liberté - Progrès”. A ce jour elle a été utilisée sur les pièces de 10 et 20 ariary en 1999 et 50 ariary en 2005.

La devise  ‘D’ est “FITIAVANA-TANINDRAZANA- FANDROSOANA” ce qui se traduit par “Affection - Patrie - Progrès”. A ce jour elle a été utilisée sur les pièces de 10 et 50 ariary en 2016.

Motto ‘A’ is "TANINDRAZANA - TOLOM-PIAVOTANA-FAHAFAHANA", which means "Fatherland - Revolution - Freedom". It was used on the 10 and 20 ariary coins in 1978 and 1983 and on the 5, 10, 20, and 50 ariary coins in 1992.

Motto ‘B’ is “TANINDRAZANA-FAHAFAHANA-FAHAMARINANA”, which means “Fatherland - Freedom - Justice”. It was used on the pieces of 5 and 20 ariary in 1994 and 5 and 50 ariary in 1996.

Motto ‘C’ is “TANINDRAZANA-FAHAFAHANA-FANDROSOANA” which means “Fatherland - Freedom - Progress”. To date it has been used on coins from 10 and 20 ariary in 1999 and 50 ariary in 2005.

Motto ‘D’ is “FITIAVANA-TANINDRAZANA- FANDROSOANA” which means “Affection - Fatherland - Progress”. To date it has been used on the 10 and 50 ariary coins in 2016.