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Title: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on January 29, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
In 2020 Germany plans to issue five silver €20 collector coins:

The Wolf and the Seven Young Goats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolf_and_the_Seven_Young_Goats) (from the Grimm Fairy Tales series)
Ludwig van Beethoven (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven) (born 250 years ago)
Hieronymus Carl Friedrich Freiherr von Münchhausen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Munchausen#Historical_figure) (born 300 years ago)
UEFA Euro 2020 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020) (Football Championship, 12 cities in 12 countries)
Freiburg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiburg_im_Breisgau) (founded 900 years ago)

These are silver (Ag 925) coins; the BU version will be issued at face while the proof version will be surcharged. Then there will be the "usual" theme series:

€5 Climate Zones (Cu-Ni - colored polymer ring): Subpolar Zone
€10 Air Moves (Cu-Ni - transparent polymer ring): On Shore
€20 Gold (Domestic Birds): White Stork (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_stork)
€50 Gold (Musical Instruments): Orchestra Horn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crook_(music)) (Crook)

The €5 and €10 coins can be had at face (the proof version is more expensive), the gold pieces are surcharged.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 14, 2019, 09:34:12 PM
Here we have the 2020 Grimm Fairy Tales coin. It was designed by Adelheid Fuss. Note that the text around the wolf-and-goats scene is in all caps; we do have an uppercase ß in German -> ẞ ... But in my opinion it just looks bad when that one, as the only character on this coin, "sticks out" like this. ::)

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 06, 2019, 07:50:52 PM
Next in line is the €10 coin, from the "Air moves" series. Will probably be issued in March. Again you have a Cu-Ni center and a transparent polymer circle, but the ring will be "red bronze" this time.

The 2020 issue is about "Strandsegeln" - Land sailing, or sand yachting. The design of the image side, designed by Andre Witting, is kind of minimalistic: You see the vehicle (apparently those are called yachts too), the pilot is merely indicated by a helmet, and the only text is the six characters AN LAND - on (the) shore. (That, and the AW initials. :) )

This is the press release (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-06-06-PM17.html) in German. A larger image of the design is here (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-06-06-PM17-Bild.jpg;jsessionid=8BE92E5B793CB58B53D431166D4F6A50?__blob=poster&v=2).

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: quaziright on June 06, 2019, 07:52:35 PM
Very excited for this coin indeed!
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 13, 2019, 01:27:12 PM
They will use color again, sigh. This is the Münchhausen design, featuring the famous Cannonball Ride (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Munchausen#Fictional_character). The piece was designed by Frantisek Chochola. What I do not particularly like, apart from the blue and red spots ;) , is this mix of the historic and the fictional character. Ah well, maybe that is what Münchhausen's fame is about ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: quaziright on June 13, 2019, 01:31:06 PM
I think I might have missed it, but was there another 5/10/20€ with colour?

I’m assuming this one will be available at face value just like the rest too?
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 13, 2019, 01:42:19 PM
Strictly speaking, there is no colored German coin around yet (apart from the colored polymer rings on the €5 pieces). Then again, the Weimar Constitution (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,41067.msg277211.html#msg277211) coin comes in August. :)  And yes, the unc version will as usual be available at face ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: quaziright on June 13, 2019, 02:05:29 PM
Ah yes, i forgot about that one
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on June 13, 2019, 07:44:54 PM
I like the design  :)
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 14, 2019, 11:06:50 AM
Ah well, we tolerate dissenting opinions here. ;D  Still somewhat odd in my view that the German Münchhausen color thingie (which supposedly is about the historic baron) features that fictitious "ride". By the way, a few years ago Latvia issued a 1 lats (100 santimu (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Muenchhausen-1lats.jpg)) coin about the Münchhausen Museum. Could make a nice combo ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on June 14, 2019, 08:03:42 PM
Still somewhat odd in my view that the German Münchhausen color thingie (which supposedly is about the historic baron) features that fictitious "ride".

Well, as we all know, we live in a post-factual world now. Therefore, the design makes complete sense to me.  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 14, 2019, 11:39:02 PM
Oh, and the Latvians already had a great idea regarding the possible date of issue. ;) From that museum (http://minhauzens.lv/en/munchausens-world/history-of-museum/) website: "The opening ceremony of the new museum building took place on May 32, 2005. Thus, the museum celebrates its birthday every year on May 32 with a single candle and several cakes (as many cakes as the museum's age!)" We'll see when that German coin comes out, hehe.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: Prosit on June 14, 2019, 11:58:35 PM
Another Munchausen, this time a New Year Token
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/wiki/File:1989_AMTReg1.jpg

Dale

They will use color again, sigh. This is the Münchhausen design, featuring the famous Cannonball Ride (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Munchausen#Fictional_character). The piece was designed by Frantisek Chochola. What I do not particularly like, apart from the blue and red spots ;) , is this mix of the historic and the fictional character. Ah well, maybe that is what Münchhausen's fame is about ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 25, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
The federal government has now published the issue schedule for 2020. This is the original PDF file (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Standardartikel/Service/Sammlermuenzen/2019-07-23-Ausgabetermine-2020-download.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=2). Since I cannot attach it (too big), please find a "screenshot" of the schedule attached ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 01, 2019, 08:15:20 PM
And here we have the design of the Beethoven coin. Now I do not understand anyway why such collector coins have the Stars of Europe when they are, contrary to circulation and commemorative coins, legal tender only in the issuing member state. But oh well, the government wants it that way ...

This coin however, designed by Hannes Dauer, will have 2 x 12 stars. ::) Apart from that I like the design. The head is characteristic, and his hand next to his ear can be interpreted in several ways. (Press release (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-07-31-PM23-Muenze-Beethoven.html) in German)

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: quaziright on August 01, 2019, 10:36:03 PM
Thats a nice design indeed. I'm envious of that hair though
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 02, 2019, 10:21:26 AM
Yeah, except in his case ... you have the hair but cannot hear any more. :-[  Below are links to two previous German coins, issued for the 200th anniversary of his birth. Both look "more static" than the new design; I don't know whether Beethoven actually had the chin that he will have on the 2020 coin, hehe.

Federal Republic 5 DM 1970 (https://www.muenzen.eu/assets/images/6/5-dm-beethoven-1970-1d33cd66.jpg)
GDR 10 M 1970 (https://www.muenzen.eu/assets/images/7/10-mark-beethoven-1970-e23e0247.jpg)

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 02, 2019, 11:00:51 AM
You can check it out. Beethoven's birthplace is in Bonn. He no longer lives there, but they have plenty of portraits.

Peter
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 02, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Been there (numerous times; Bonn is not far from here) but I still don't know. His birthplace is the Beethoven-Haus (https://www.beethoven.de) now, and yes, lots of portraits and busts there, and elsewhere in the city. Of course I have never seen a photo of him ;D but I still believe the portrait on that 2020 coin design is a little exaggerated in that regard.

But if the artist wanted to emphasize that "energetic chin", fine with me - as I wrote, basically I like the design. More dynamic than the 1970 coins.

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 04, 2019, 11:41:04 PM
Two more designs are known now. One is dedicated to the 900th anniversary of Freiburg; the place in the state of Baden-Württemberg got city and market rights in 1120. The coin, designed by Bastian Prillwitz, shows citizens in front of Freiburg's CoA in the center. On the left and right, some significant historic buildings, wine, and "nature" including the Schlossberg (at the top). At the bottom, some water which can refer to the river Dreisam and/or the famous Bächle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiburg_Bächle) in Freiburg.

(Press release (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-09-04-PM25-Muenze-Freiburg.html) in German, with a link to a large image (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-07-31-PM25-Bild.jpg;jsessionid=FF68B8864A5AE8F0D9FF7F4F434E93F9?__blob=poster&v=2) of the coin design.)

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 04, 2019, 11:58:51 PM
The last €20 collector coin design is about the "Euro 2020" football cup. For the first time, this cup will be in several different countries; this is also reflected by the design (image side: Thomas Serres). The ball "fills" the entire side, and has the twelve host city names. The eagle side was designed by Erich Ott.

(Press release (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-09-04-PM26-Muenze-Fussball.html) in German, with a link to a large image (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-07-31-PM26-Bild.jpg?__blob=poster&v=2) of the coin design.)

Christian

Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: Figleaf on September 05, 2019, 09:39:58 AM
Looks like a medal, with the denomination hidden in a routine legend and a silver content specified in the field. Glad the designer avoided the quasi obligatory goalkeeper or tackling scene. The ball-on-coin concept is not new, but breaking through it at the centre is. In the end, it doesn't look like another commercial picture on metal, but a bit more artsy. Could have been far worse.

Peter
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 05, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
By and large I like both designs. As for the Freiburg piece, what is a little unfortunate in my opinion is that the "shape" of the eagle apparently reflects the shape of the CoA on the other side. Does that poor bird have to have foldable wings? ;)

As I am not really interested in commercial football, I could care less about that last piece. But the "ball side" design is nice. Now I do not know why we have two different artists for the two sides. To me it looks as if the ball and the text on the theme side had an incused design while the eagle and the text on the other side are raised.

One positive aspect for collectors though. Had not thought about this, but somebody brought it up elsewhere - even though the Euro 2020 coin is a sports piece, it will simply be made by one mint. Thus no "secret hints" which in other cases made collectors look out for subtle differences and then buy all five versions. Here it will be J = Hamburg (not Munich which will be one of the Cup locations), and that's it.

Do those pieces look like medals? Maybe, in the sense that the value digits are not bigger than the other characters. Then again, collector coins are not meant to be means of payment anyway ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: quaziright on September 11, 2019, 01:38:02 AM
Two more designs are known now. One is dedicated to the 900th anniversary of Freiburg; the place in the state of Baden-Württemberg got city and market rights in 1120. The coin, designed by Bastian Prillwitz, shows citizens in front of Freiburg's CoA in the center. On the left and right, some significant historic buildings, wine, and "nature" including the Schlossberg (at the top). At the bottom, some water which can refer to the river Dreisam and/or the famous Bächle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freiburg_Bächle) in Freiburg.

(Press release (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-09-04-PM25-Muenze-Freiburg.html) in German, with a link to a large image (https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Briefmarken/2019/2019-07-31-PM25-Bild.jpg;jsessionid=FF68B8864A5AE8F0D9FF7F4F434E93F9?__blob=poster&v=2) of the coin design.)

Christian

Looking forward to see this coin in my hand
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 17, 2019, 09:30:13 PM
The €100 gold coin will be about "Unity". Now that the Unesco World Heritage series has come to an end, the federal government decided to start a new one (https://muenzenmagazin.de/heft-archiv/jahrgang-2019/duplikat-von-ausgabe-5/2019/unesco-nachfolgeserie-einigkeit-und-recht-und-freiheit.html). But it will be relatively short: three years, three issues. The theme will be the first words of the German national anthem - Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit.

So the 2020 piece will have unity (Einigkeit) as its theme. In my opinion the design should not be about, or not focus on, the 1990 German unification (Einheit) but about being or standing together. The Dutch have the word "eendracht" which (I think) is close to this Einigkeit. Quite abstract, yes, but law (Recht, 2021) and freedom (Freiheit, 2022) will be similarly difficult to picture on a coin ...

Christian
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: redlock on October 18, 2019, 08:46:54 AM
law (Recht, 2021)

Wouldn't ''justice'' be a better translation in the context of our (german) national anthem?
Title: Re: Germany: 2020 Collector Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 18, 2019, 08:57:07 AM
Quite possibly so. ;)  Was thinking of the term "Rule of Law", but yeah, I agree ...

Christian