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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => British India => Topic started by: Lori on November 13, 2018, 11:56:41 AM

Title: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Lori on November 13, 2018, 11:56:41 AM
Good day everyone,
 Is this a genuine coin or it's a fake one ? It look's  suspicious.
  weight  10,40 gr
  diam  30,3 mm

 Thankyou !
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Arminius on November 13, 2018, 03:07:58 PM
First test it with a magnet, this is a quick one.
Many cheap fakes that should be non-magnetic silver are produced with magnetic alloys.

regards
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Rabi_R on November 13, 2018, 04:21:41 PM
From the layout ( i am not sure if this is the correct word to use) and tone, the coin does not appear to be a fake.

However  -

The date is in bigger point than INDIA, which appears strange.
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Lori on November 14, 2018, 07:07:27 AM
Good day,

Many thank's both of you for your replay. The coin in non -magnetic , I forgot to mention that, maybe I have to ask a jeweler for a test to see what is made of.
Strange fact , here :  https://www.collectors.com/coin/1881-c-british-india-victoria-empress-silver-one-rupee-coin/1096982289674349720    there is a coin posted with the same  errors like the one I have , probably made by the same "manufacturer".

Best regards.
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: repindia on November 14, 2018, 08:11:15 PM
A more than 10% loss for such a circulated coin is not normal. The coin just from the weight alone seems doubtful and as you pointed out looking like many other similar coins condemn it. The official weight of these was 11.66 grams.
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Lori on November 15, 2018, 09:25:00 AM
Any ideea, this type of coins are modern fakes or circulated in the past ?

Best regards.
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Figleaf on November 15, 2018, 10:26:11 AM
Hard to say when it was produced. My personal preference would be a Burmese fake of the 1930s or 40s. These are usually lightweight, non-magnetic and they have an excellent resemblance. However, they are also usually less worn. If the jeweller you wanted to go to says it's good silver, it's unlikely to be Burmese, though.

Burmese fakes were produced because of a (perceived?) shortage of coins, in particular in rural areas, so they are linked to the opium trade.

Peter
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Lori on November 15, 2018, 12:03:33 PM
Thank you Peter.
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Arminius on November 15, 2018, 11:12:20 PM
My first impression was: That is no surface im used to find on coins of this type.

This surface plus the humble detail mistakes at the edge reminds me to some cheap Asian non-magnetic fakes of all kinds of modern silver coins appearing since two decades on the flea markets and tourists fake sites.

regards
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Lori on November 16, 2018, 06:40:29 AM
Thank you Arminius.
Title: Re: 1881 Rupee
Post by: Mister T on November 24, 2018, 07:49:31 AM
Agree that it's fake - surface looks a bit too rough.
I think there were contemporary counterfeits (even in the 1800s) but I don't know how well they were produced.