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Design and designing => Coin characteristics => Topic started by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:15:50 PM

Title: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:15:50 PM
Here I am not thinking of different or larger fonts, but changes to the legend. Extra words may be added, and the design may or may not be amended slightly, in order to accommodate this. I am curious to see how many modern countries have done this.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:17:55 PM
In 1972 Trinidad and Tobago issued a special set of circulation coins, which also appeared in proof sets. These coins celebrated the tenth anniversary of independence. The same designs were used as before, except that the legend "TENTH ANNIVERSARY" appeared at the bottom of the obverse design.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33217.0;attach=57141;image)

Before.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33217.0;attach=57143;image)

After.



The images aren't great, but you get the picture. The fonts of the denominational numerals have also been changed.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:25:07 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13166.0;attach=57136;image)

Trinidad and Tobago, 25 cents, 1975.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33217.0;attach=57150;image)

25 cents, 1982.  "TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE".



The Franklin Mint produced a full set of these coins.  They may have appeared only as proof sets. Does anybody know? Interestingly, some of the standard designs were changed, e.g. the 10 cents showed a hummingbird instead of a flower.



(http://secure.numismaster.com/ta/fwimg/105167/62204325/3.jpg)

A similar set to the 1982 collector set was issued in 1983 and 1984. Apart from the $10, the designs were the same as in 1982, but without the special legend. The special designs created for the lower denominations of the 1982 set were never used on their circulation counterparts.

See: Trinidad and Tobago: 1982 set (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,33217.msg209332.html#msg209332).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28150.0;attach=46868;image)

The common obverse of the coins of Barbados.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28150.0;attach=46869;image)

Barbados celebrated its tenth anniversary of independence in 1976. The coins issued in that year showed the dates 1966 and 1976 on the obverse, in order to commemorate the anniversary. The broken tridents were somewhat longer and had been moved lower down. Also the word "BARBADOS" used less space. Do you notice any other differences?



See also: Coinage of Barbados (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,28150.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:32:33 PM
This gold collector coin of 1975, issued by Barbados to celebrate its 350th anniversary, used a similar tactic on its obverse legend.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 02:52:58 PM
The Bahamas became independent on 10th July 1973. This is how the country name appeared on the coins over the years:

Year     Obverse Legend                                               
1966-1970     Elizabeth II      BAHAMA ISLANDS                                         
1971-1973     Elizabeth II      COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMA ISLANDS
1974 to date  Coat of arms    COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMAS             



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6960.0;attach=9567;image)

1 cent, 1970.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6960.0;attach=9568;image)(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6960.0;attach=9569;image)

1 cent, 1972.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6960.0;attach=9571;image)

1 cent, 1975.



However, some of the 5 cents and 10 cents coins of 1973 carried the legend: "THE COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMAS", as opposed to just "COMMONWEALTH OF THE BAHAMA ISLANDS". So far as I can tell, the former are Royal Mint products, whilst the latter are Franklin Mint products. It is hard to find a nice image of this variation, but see below.



See also: Bahamian Variations (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,6960.0.html).

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:14:12 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12288.0;attach=72199;image)



When the UK went decimal (in stages, from 1968 to 1971), the legend on its coins included the word "NEW", to indicate that these were decimal pence, and not the old predecimal pence.  The word "NEW" appeared on the UK's decimal coins from 1968 to 1981 inclusive. From 1982 it was omitted.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:15:14 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13166.0;attach=62583;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13166.0;attach=62584;image)



If you look at the difference in the reverses of the UK five pence with "NEW" (top) and without it (left), you will notice that various changes were made to the thistle.

1] The cross on the crown is thinner and originally came much closer to the legend than on the new version.

2] The two fleur-de-lis ornaments rising from the rim of the crown have been reduced in size on the new version.

3] The general shape of the crown is slightly different.

4] The flower of the thistle, which supports the crown, is considerably narrower on the new version.

5] On the new version, the leaves of the thistle extend further downwards than before.

6] Look at the stem of the thistle. On the new version, it is longer, thicker and more detailed than before, and the stems of the leaves start higher up the thistle stem than before.

7] On the new version, look at the shape of the leaves - top and bottom. There seem to be more prickles at the bottom of the leaves, and they are longer too, and there are also longer prickles at the left and right hand sides. On close inspection, you will see that the overall shape of the leaves has changed considerably.

8] The shape of the numeral 5 seems to be subtly different in the new version. On the old version, there is a noticeable upward tail at the right hand side of the horizontal top bar of the numeral - this has disappeared on the new version. There may be other slight differences between the numerals (width), but the images are not detailed enough for me to be sure.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:15:47 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20641.0;attach=62579;image)

50 pence 1969.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20641.0;attach=62578;image)

50 pence 1982 (proof FDC version).



There were also considerable differences between the older and newer versions of the Britannia design on the reverse of the fifty pence.

1] On the older version, the trident appears closer to the rim. Its middle prong is shorter and the tow other prongs are less broad at the tip.

2] On the newer version, Britannia is holding the trident at a lower angle. This is presumably to avoid overlapping the letter "T" in the word "FIFTY".

3] On the newer version, the crest of Britannia's helmet is wider than before, and the top right-most point of the crest extends further.

4] On the older version, the bottom-most point of Britannia's helmet has a small upward curl to it. This has disappeared on the newer version.

5] On the newer version, Britannia's profile looks somewhat different and seems to be broader than before.

6] On the newer version, Britannia appears to have less hair falling onto her neck.

7] On the older version, Britannia appears to facing more to the front than on the previous version. This has the effect of making the outline of her breasts look more pronounced than on the newer version. More of her stomach is visible, as it is turned more towards us, and you can see more of how the folds of her dress fall.

8] Britannia is sitting in an apparently more "comfortable" position on the newer version, so that her thighs and knees are held higher up.

9] On the newer version, Britannia appears to have fewer folds in her dress, yet the folds at the bottom left, close to the shield, look more complex than in the older version.

10] On the older version, the two main crosses on the representation of the Union Flag on Britannia's shield run together; on the newer version, they are clearly separated by a dividing line.

11] On the newer version, the sprig Britannia is holding appears to have broader leaves. And look at the right-hand side of the sprig on the older version: there are three leaves growing together in a cluster; this threesome has disappeared on the newer version.

12] The fur on the lion's front appears to extend further to the right on the older version. And on the newer version, there is now a gap between the bottom part of the lion's front fur and its feet - though I am not sure whether they are meant to be the lion's feet or whether it is the bottom of Britannia's robe piled up on the floor.

13] On the older version, the numeral zero in the figure fifty seems to be narrower than in the newer version.

These are all the major differences I can see. There do seem to be some other minor differences, but these may simply be down to the different amounts of wear on the coins in the images.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:16:36 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11471.0;attach=62743;image)

The word "NEW" appeared on Guernsey's decimal coins from 1968 to 1976. Whilst Guernsey dropped the word "NEW" from its coins in 1977, the only coins with "NEW" were dated 1968, 1969, 1970 and 1971.  No coins dated 1972 to 1976 inclusive were struck in any form.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:18:55 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12288.0;attach=72190;image)

Predecimal and decimal Irish coins.



When the UK went decimal, it adopted new designs for its new coinage. However, Ireland retained some old designs and simply changed the denomination.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:22:42 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12288.0;attach=72189;image)

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11506.0;attach=72221;image)

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18887.0;attach=72219;image)

Some of the "NEW PENCE" of Jersey.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11506.0;attach=72222;image)

When "NEW" was omitted from the legends, the year was split and moved from the bottom right to the centre left and right of the coin.



See also: Milestones in the decimal coinage of Jersey (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11503.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:27:43 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4018.0;attach=76757;image)

When New Zealand went decimal in 1967, it issued the 10 cent coin with a double denomination, to show that it was equal in value to the old shilling. However, the 5 cent coin was equal to six predecimal pence, but it wasn't given a double denomination. The 10 cents coin was the only decimal coin to receive one.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4018.0;attach=76756;image)

However, the word "SHILLING" was removed from the coin from 1970 onwards.



See also: The decimal coinage of New Zealand (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,40504.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:34:38 PM
The state of Rhodesia could not decide on which side of its decimal coins to place its country name.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=91770;image)

Rhodesian coins of 1970.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=91779;image)

5 cent coins: left, 1973; right, 1975.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13166.0;attach=77270;image)

5 cents, 1975.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6039.0;attach=89416;image)

10 cents, 1975.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16141.0;attach=88881;image)

20 cents, 1975.



See also: Southern Rhodesia / Rhodesia and Nyasaland / Rhodesia (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,32535.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:41:47 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9128.0;attach=85747;image)

Jersey, 20 pence, 1982.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9128.0;attach=62489;image)

In 1983 the year of issue was removed from the design and transferred to the obverse, in keeping with the rest of the new thematic coinage.



See also: Milestones in the decimal coinage of Jersey (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11503.0.html).

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
Over the years, the Union of South Africa altered the way it which it displayed the denominations of its coins.

Below you seen how the expression of the denomination of the halfpenny was altered.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27107.0;attach=73212;image)

The halfpenny depicted a ship. South Africa's halfpenny of 1923 to 1926 showed the denomination as "˝PENNY˝".



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27107.0;attach=73213;image)

From 1928 to 1931, the denomination changed to simply "˝ PENNY".



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27107.0;attach=73211;image)

From 1931 onwards, the denomination was given simply as "˝D". Note that the legend "˝ PENNY" also occurs on some halfpennies of 1931.



See also: Coinage of the Union of South Africa (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,39634.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 04:02:03 PM
Jersey issued three commemorative predecimal pennies. It altered the legend to commemorate the occasion.

1] This version was issued in 1949 to commemorate the liberation of the island from the Nazis.

2] This coin commemorates Charles II, who became king of England in 1660. He made two visits to the island during the English Civil War.

3] This coin celebrates the 900th anniversary of the Norman Conquest.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 04:08:32 PM
Jersey also issued a "ONE FOURTH OF A SHILLING" with an altered legend in 1966.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12529.0;attach=71998;image)

"ONE FOURTH OF A SHILLING": 1966.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12529.0;attach=71997;image)

Standard 12-sided coin of 1964.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Jamaica altered the legend on its halfpenny and penny to commemorate the Jamaican Coinage Centennial.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 10, 2018, 04:31:17 PM
When the Solomon Islands issued its first coinage in 1977, a 50 cents coin was not included. However, in 1988 a commemorative 50 cents coin was issued. After 1988, the commemorative legend was removed and the denomination became a standard circulation coin. The coat of arms should have been expanded to fill more of the coin's surface, in my opinion, but this did not happen.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 12:02:45 AM
Some more from Jamaica, where the obverse design has been amended.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 01:05:33 AM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21973.0;attach=35652;image)



Hungary made the transition from communism to democracy in 1989. The first coins of the new republic were issued in 1990. Above you can see examples of the old and new 50 filler coins (dated 1986 and 1990) side by side. "Magyar Népköztársaság", the People's Republic of Hungary, was changed to simply "Magyar Köztársaság", the Republic of Hungary. The designs remained the same.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 01:07:05 AM
Hungary 50 forint 1994 and 2014.

Since the 1st January 2012, Hungary's official country name no longer includes the word "republic". Its name on the coinage was changed in 2012 to appear as MAGYARORSZÁG, instead of "Magyar Köztársaság".
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 01:19:33 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9889.0;attach=77618;image)

Kenya, 5 shillings, 1973.  Independence commemorative. 



Below you see the standard reverse (coat of arms side).

Numismaster considers the side that shows the country name as the obverse. Some coins show it on both sides, though.  :-\
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: chrisild on February 11, 2018, 02:18:46 PM
The Deutsche Mark and Pfennig coins of the Federal Republic of Germany, issued since 1950, all had the full country name - Bundesrepublik Deutschland. But that country was founded in May 1949, so the first Pfennig coins after the currency reform, dated 1948 and 1949, simply referred to the issuing bank, the Bank deutscher Länder. (Images: Bundesbank)

In the Deutsches Reich, the Rentenmark was introduced in late 1923 that aimed at ending the hyperinflation period. New Pfennig coins were issued which would say "Rentenpfennig", see here (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1952.html). When the Reichsmark came in summer 1924, the designs were continued but the text changed to "Reichspfennig", see here (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces849.html). That continuity was important; people should not think of the Reichsmark as "yet another currency reform" ...

Christian
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:20:33 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13426.0;attach=80063;image)

Tanzania, 5 shilingi, 1976.  Bank of Tanzania: 10th anniversary.



Tanzania has occasionally added a special obverse legend for bank commemoratives.

See the standard obverse below.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13426.0;attach=80065;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13426.0;attach=80066;image)

Tanzania, 25 shilingi, 1991.  Bank of Tanzania: 25th anniversary.



See the standard obverse below.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:28:44 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42517.0;attach=82022;image)

Vanuatu used this special obverse legend on its 50 vatu and 10,000 vatu coins of 1981.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13862.0;attach=71906;image)

Here you see the standard obverse, used from 1983 onward.

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=84133;image)

Zambia, 5 shillings coin, 1965. First anniversary of independence.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11038.0;attach=88582;image)

Zambia, 50 ngwee, 1969.  Fifth anniversary of independence.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=89939;image)

Standard obverse.



The Zambian coat of arms was sometimes given a special legend.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Figleaf on February 11, 2018, 02:49:22 PM
I asked Google translate to guess which language is "ripablik blong vanuatu". It came up with Hindi: रिपब्लिक ब्लोंग वानातू. Wikipedia says the indigenous official language of Vanuatu is Bislama, a creole language derived from English.

Peter
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:53:35 PM
The Vanuatan national motto reads: "LONG GOD YUMI STANAP" - Bislama for: "IN GOD WE STAND".

"Yumi", meaning "we", comes from the English "you me".  :)
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 02:55:15 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39634.0;attach=74139;image)

South Africa, 2 shillings, 1937.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27107.0;attach=44768;image)

South Africa, 2 shillings, 1948.  From emperor to a mere king. Yet there was still a British Empire at that time.  :-\
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 03:00:32 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5327.0;attach=6449;image)

UK threepence, 1953.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5327.0;attach=6451;image)

UK threepence, 1967. BRITT:OMN was removed in 1954.



BRITT:OMN meant "of all the Britains", i.e. Queen of all the Britains. It was supposed to be praise for the Dominions who helped Britain during the Boer War. However, it was later thought to be rather patronising and imperialist, so it was dropped.


Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 03:06:24 PM
Below are some links to topics about legend variations on UK decimal coins. Some of them would fit the theme of this topic, others would not. Most of the topics were written by our UK Decimals board moderator, Alan71, who brings a keenly analytical approach to the subject.



LEGEND VARIATIONS

UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the 1p to 20p Coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,35670.0.html)


UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the 50p Coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38493.0.html)

Comments on "Legend Variations on the 50p Coins" (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38474.0.html)


UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the Round Pounds (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38475.0.html)


UK Decimals: Legend Variations on the 2 Pound Coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38483.0.html)

Comments on "Legend Variations on the 2 Pound Coins" (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38481.0.html)
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: chrisild on February 11, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
BRITT:OMN meant "of all the Britains", i.e. Queen of all the Britains. It was supposed to be praise for the Dominions who helped Britain during the Boer War. However, it was later thought to be rather patronising and imperialist, so it was dropped.

While I have never quite understood why "Britanniarum" would be abbreviated "Britt" (where does that second T come from?), I liked the idea that the coins would this way have some kind of country indicator: BRITT or BR without any other territorial reference = UK. :)

Romanian coins roughly between 1950 and 1990 have interesting inscription changes too: The first name of the republic was Republica Populara Romana, the (1955-60) the last word was changed to Romina. In 1963 good old Romana was used again, but in 1965/66 the name changed to Republica Socialista Romania. All these modifications did not really affect the other design elements ...

Christian
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 11, 2018, 05:16:15 PM
I have never quite understood why "Britanniarum" would be abbreviated "Britt" (where does that second T come from?)

Apparently both one and two T variations have been found in ancient Roman texts. Others think that the Romans doubled the T in abbreviation if the noun was a plural ("BRITT." = "BRITANNIARUM"). Yet others have noted that the ancient Greek word contained two Greek T's, and maybe some Romans adopted that spelling. In that case, the Romans would have pronounced it with two T's. It is normal to find variations in spelling and pronunciation, of course. So, we have all these theories but no agreement.  :-\
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 12, 2018, 08:48:55 PM
From "State of Bahrain" to "Kingdom of Bahrain". Why was the name changed?
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: chrisild on February 13, 2018, 01:56:14 PM
From "State of Bahrain" to "Kingdom of Bahrain". Why was the name changed?

LMGTFY. Nah, let me wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain#Independence) that for you. ;) "A referendum on 14–15 February 2001 massively supported the National Action Charter. As part of the adoption of the National Action Charter on 14 February 2002, Bahrain changed its formal name from the State (dawla) of Bahrain to the Kingdom of Bahrain."

Christian
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 13, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
CVBNM. And thank you too. I couldn't quite find the answer in the sea of text.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 26, 2018, 11:42:00 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8770.0;attach=12469;image)

Jordan, Ľ dinar, 1969.  F.A.O.

The first appearance of this design.



Below you see the Ľ dinar of 1974, celebrating the 10th anniversary of the Central Bank.

Below that, you see a standard Ľ dinar design, first introduced in 1970 but here dated 1978.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Pabitra on February 27, 2018, 03:08:59 AM

South Africa, 2 shillings, 1948.  From emperor to a mere king. Yet there was still a British Empire at that time.

The Empire was reduced to Kingdom on 15th August 1947.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Pabitra on February 27, 2018, 03:31:56 AM
on 14 February 2002, Bahrain changed its formal name from the State (dawla) of Bahrain to the Kingdom of Bahrain."

There was a change of font ( if that could be considered alteration) in 2009
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on February 27, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
Really, Pabitra. All those nice sharp images in my topic, and you sabotage it with something off the Victorian steam-powered internet.  >:(



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26550.0;attach=43835;image)

Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Figleaf on February 27, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
My knowledge level of Arabic is Plant-minus, but the words across the denomination are different. On the top coin, I see فلس (fals), on the bottom one فلسا (falsana).

Peter
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Pabitra on February 27, 2018, 01:54:30 PM
Really, Pabitra. All those nice sharp images in my topic, and you sabotage it with something off the Victorian steam-powered internet.  >:(

You should thank me for not sending a Georgian horse-powered one 😃
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 01, 2018, 01:28:27 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27020.0;attach=44570;image)

East Caribbean States, 10 dollars, 1981.  Royal Wedding of Charles and Diana.



This next one is slightly off-topic. In order to commemorate the wedding of Charles and Diana, the East Caribbean States (or Territories) simply added "ROYAL WEDDING" to the legend and placed a map of the islands next to the usual ship. Nowadays, you might look at the legend and wonder "WHOSE wedding?". Nor does the altered design relate to the commemorated theme.

Compare it with the regular dollar design, below.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Figleaf on March 01, 2018, 10:34:09 PM
FWIW, the ship is a galleon, so it may well be the "Golden Hind", which has no connection with any royal wedding either. Queen Elizabeth obviously liked him, but she didn't marry him.

Peter
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 01, 2018, 10:52:16 PM
The ship certainly is intended to be Sir Francis Drake's "Golden Hind". See: Galleons (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,27020.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 03, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45273.0;attach=89674;image)

Jamaica, $1, 1991.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33693.0;attach=58459;image)

Jamaica, $1, 2006.

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 03, 2018, 10:38:36 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33693.0;attach=58462;image)

Jamaica, 50 cents.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33693.0;attach=58464;image)

Jamaica, 50 cents, 1987.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45273.0;attach=89670;image)

Jamaica, 25 cents, 1993.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45273.0;attach=89701;image)

Jamaica, $20, 2001.

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 03, 2018, 10:47:33 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23718.0;attach=80429;image)

Jamaica, 25 cents, 1987.



Jamaica, 25 cents, 1985.  25th anniversary of the bank of Jamaica.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: quaziright on March 03, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
The commemorate set for the 125th anniversary of Canadian federation should fit the bill for this theme. Perhaps the Queens golden jubilee as well
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: chrisild on March 05, 2018, 01:00:03 PM
The US Mint started issuing the Kennedy half dollar as a circulation coin in 1964. To celebrate the 50th anniversary of the piece (still issued regularly but does not really occur in circulation), it made three special products in 2014. The gold coin uses the regular design but has both dates (1964 2014); the other pieces are simply dated 2014 but have the higher relief of the original JFK half. Links and/or images:

(https://www.coinworld.com/content/dam/cw/news/2015/January/011915/NAT_Gold%20JFK%2050c/1_2014_Kennedy-50th-Gld_Prf_W_O_Merged.jpg)



United States Mint Announces Release of Kennedy Half–Dollar Coin 50th Anniversary Products (https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/20140701-mint-announces-release-of-kennedy-half-dollar-coin-50th-anniversary-products)

2014 50th Anniversary Kennedy Half Dollar Gold Proof Coin (http://kennedyhalfdollars.net/2014-50th-anniversary-kennedy-half-dollar-gold-proof-coin)



Second paragraph of this section:

Kennedy half dollar: end of striking for circulation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_half_dollar#End_of_striking_for_circulation)


Christian

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:07:52 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=59937;image)

Seychelles, 1 cent, 1976.

In 1976 the Seychelles issued its first full coinage as an independent country. The legend on  the reverse of all the coins was: "INDEPENDENCE 1976".



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=80873;image)

Here you see the Seychelles 1 cent of 1977. 

The word INDEPENDENCE has been removed.

 
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:10:25 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=59938;image)

Seychelles, 5 cents, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=69696;image)

Seychelles, 5 cents, 1977.  PRODUCE MORE FOOD.

The design was amended in 1977 to carry a FAO slogan.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:12:06 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=60111;image)

Seychelles, 10 cents, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=80667;image)

Seychelles, 10 cents, 1977.  PRODUCE MORE FOOD.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:17:34 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=37482;image)

Seychelles, 25 cents, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=69700;image)

Seychelles, 25 cents, 1977.  "INDEPENDENCE" has been removed from the legend.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=38093.0;attach=68797;image)

Robert Elderton of the Royal Mint amended the design slightly for 1982, in order to move the parrot higher up the coin and remove the blank space.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:19:16 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=37484;image)

Seychelles, 50 cents, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=69701;image)

Seychelles, 50 cents, 1977: without "INDEPENDENCE".
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:21:39 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=37485;image)

Seychelles, 1 rupee, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=69702;image)

Seychelles, 1 rupee, 1977: without "INDEPENDENCE".



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=69704;image)

Seychelles, 1 rupee, 1982.  A different solution was found for this denomination.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:25:16 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8770.0;attach=72110;image)

Seychelles, 5 rupees, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8770.0;attach=80669;image)

Seychelles, 5 rupees, 1977: without "INDEPENDENCE".
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:28:30 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2194.0;attach=80666;image)

Seychelles, 10 rupees, 1974.  Collector coin.  The obverse showed Queen Elizabeth II.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2194.0;attach=11739;image)

Seychelles, 10 rupees, 1976.  INDEPENDENCE.  The obverse showed President Mancham.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22875.0;attach=69513;image)

Seychelles, 10 rupees, 1977.  SEA RESOURCE MANAGEMENT - a FAO slogan.  The obverse showed the coat of arms.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 02:30:26 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13862.0;attach=69684;image)

Seychelles, 5 cents, 1981.  Cassava plant.  World Food Day.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13862.0;attach=69685;image)

Seychelles, 5 cents, 1982.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=69682;image)

Seychelles, 10 cents, 1981.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=69681;image)

Seychelles, 10 cents, 1982.



There are many coins that have incorporated a FAO legend with their standard designs, but those are just a few.



See also: Wildlife of the Seychelles (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,22875.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 05, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=80670;image)

Tanzania issued its first 5 shilingi coin in 1971. It commemorated the 10th anniversary of independence.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11038.0;attach=80632;image)

The reverse of the coin carried a FAO-themed design.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41824.0;attach=80523;image)

The coin was then issued as a standard circulation issue from 1972 to 1980, without the special legend.

RAIS WA KWANZA translates as "FIRST PRESIDENT".
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Below you see the standard coat of arms on the reverse of the collector Fiji $1 of 1969, and the reverse of the collector $10 of 1977, issued to commemorate the Silver Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II. The obverse of both coins showed the Machin effigy of the Queen.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41969.0;attach=80783;image)
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 09, 2018, 11:43:12 PM
Fiji, $10, 1995.  Silver Jubilee of Independence.  The obverse was the usual Machin effigy of Queen Elizabeth II.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: malj1 on March 10, 2018, 03:08:56 AM
Jersey issued three commemorative predecimal pennies. It altered the legend to commemorate the occasion.

1] This version was issued in 1949 to commemorate the liberation of the island from the Nazis.


One minor point here; this liberation reverse was used again in 1954 - QEII reign.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2018, 04:29:53 AM
One minor point here; this liberation reverse was used again in 1954 - QEII reign.

Yes, still saying LIBERATED 1945 - but the year of issue (1954) was not included anywhere.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: malj1 on March 10, 2018, 04:34:13 AM
It does however have the Elizabeth II obverse i/o the George VI
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2018, 04:38:35 AM
True. You waited an exact month to respond to that post. (Depending on your country / time zone).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: malj1 on March 10, 2018, 04:45:30 AM
Mainly because I came inside as its too hot in the 33 degree sunshine.  ;D
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2018, 07:59:33 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41969.0;attach=80788;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41969.0;attach=80789;image)

In 1974, Fiji issued two collector coins to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the cession of "The United Kingdom of Fiji" to Britain. They portrayed the King of Fiji, Seru Epenisa Cakobau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seru_Epenisa_Cakobau). One was a silver $25 coin and the other a gold $100 coin.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2018, 08:00:02 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41969.0;attach=80790;image)

In 1975, Fiji issued another two collector coins, $25 and $100, with the same portrait of the King. This time the legend simply carried his name and birth and death years (1817 and 1883) and did not apparently commemorate anything.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 10, 2018, 08:00:25 PM
Fiji, $10, 1991.

Fiji issued two special coins in 1991 in support of the "Save The Children Fund": a silver $10 and a gold $200 coin. Both showed a portrait of the old Fijian king by Dutch coin designer, Willem Vis (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,26696.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 13, 2018, 01:46:11 AM
The coinage of the Irish Free State was first issued in 1928. On the obverse were the words "Saorstát Éireann", which is Irish for "Irish Free State", of course. Free of what? Free of Britain, I suppose.

From 1939, the obverse was changed to read simply "Éire": the Irish word for "Ireland".
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Figleaf on March 13, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
I think "free" is used as "independent". Historically, this is what is meant by "free city" in e.g. Germany (freie Hansestadt Hamburg, freie Stadt Franffurt). It is a limited independence, as those cities were still within the German empire (but not in a German state). The only restriction on Irish sovereignty I can think of at the time of Irish independence is the Pope. It would be interesting to find out if this was the reason why Ireland chose to be known as a "free state".

Peter
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: chrisild on March 13, 2018, 02:17:26 PM
On the obverse were the words "Saorstát Éireann", which is Irish for "Irish Free State", of course. Free of what? Free of Britain, I suppose.

Not really, I think. The Free State established in 1922 was a result of the 1921 Anglo Irish Treaty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Irish_Treaty). For example, this Saorstát Éireann was still a monarchy, with (initially) George V as its head of state ...

Christian
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 13, 2018, 02:39:02 PM
It still leaves the question, free from WHAT? Looking through the Wikipedia article you linked to, I found only this:

Nearly 10 years earlier, Michael Collins had argued that the treaty would give "the freedom to achieve freedom".

That is a pretty meaningless piece of rhetoric. Given the Irish Free State was still constitutionally a monarchy, I suggest that its title was a nice piece of propaganda spin, to win over any critics who would ideally have preferred a republic. There's nothing wrong with that, of course - there are times in politics when you have to go slowly, in order to move closer to your ultimate aim.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: Figleaf on March 13, 2018, 03:52:02 PM
Saorstát Éireann was still a monarchy, with (initially) George V as its head of state

That answers the question, I think. Ireland as a monarchy was in the same position as Hamburg or Frankfurt: an independent position with a (pretty powerless) head of state common with other political entities around it only. That makes it logical that the free state was succeeded by the Irish republic: unlike the constitution of 1922, the text of 1937 created the office of an (also pretty powerless) president.

The answer to what was it free of is therefore: the British parliament.

Peter
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 13, 2018, 10:22:15 PM
Bahamas, $2500, 1983.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 17, 2018, 12:25:15 PM
Are you turning 60? Call it your "Diamond Birthday". It'll sound much more important and you'll receive much better presents.  :D  That's what the King of Tonga did in 1978, anyway.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 21, 2018, 08:20:37 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39527.0;attach=81176;image)

Biafra, 1 shilling, 1969.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39527.0;attach=73118;image)

Biafra, 1 shilling, 1969.



Two versions of the Biafran shilling. The denomination is given numerically on one, and in words on the other. The tree and the sun are also significantly different on the reverse. There are also slight differences in the font.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 22, 2018, 04:27:27 PM
Singapore, $10, 1972.

The English language version of "Singapore" was placed upside-down on the obverse of this coin. Was this a deliberate snub?  :o
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 22, 2018, 04:28:48 PM
In subsequent years, the English legend was turned "right side up". Perhaps somebody had threatened a world war in the meantime?  :-X
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 23, 2018, 11:34:39 AM
Singapore, $10, 1975. 

Here the legend around the coat of arms is changed to "10TH ANNIVERSARY". This is the only coin that references the country as "REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE", to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 23, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
In 1978 Queen Elizabeth II visited Guernsey: a crown dependency, no less. Guernsey issued a 25 pence collector coin to commemorate the visit. However, only the reverse legend indicated the event being commemorated. How disappointing.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on April 03, 2018, 10:04:17 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4018.0;attach=77304;image)

Cook Islands, $1. The standard collector design of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.



Below you see the altered legend to promote the Mini Games, whatever they were. When I look at the design, the concept of "MINI" just does not suggest itself, somehow.  :-[
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on April 05, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
In the 1970s and 1980s, the Franklin Mint produced coin sets for the British Virgin Islands. These looked like circulation sets and had denominations going from 1 cent to 1 dollar, with higher denominations for more expensive sets. However, none of these coins circulated, since BVI uses the US dollar.

Nonetheless, the Franklin Mint changed the obverse legend on these pieces in 1978, to celebrate the Queen's silver jubilee.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on April 28, 2018, 02:54:55 PM
Swaziland, 2008.  40th anniversary of independence and 40th birthday of the king.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on April 30, 2018, 01:23:12 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37892.0;attach=82015;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37892.0;attach=68186;image)

Cayman Islands, $5, 1988.  Seoul Olympics. Design by Robert Elderton.



See also: Cayman Islands, Seoul Olympics, 1988 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,37892.0.html).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on June 10, 2018, 10:08:44 PM
Top: Cayman Islands, $5, 1982.  150th Anniversary of Parliamentary Government.

Bottom: Cayman Islands, $5, 1972.  Standard collector issue (in sets only).
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on June 10, 2018, 10:34:46 PM
Top: Cayman Islands, $5, 1978.  25th anniversary of the Queen's Coronation.

Bottom: Cayman Islands, $5, 1980.  Standard collector issue (in sets only).

The reverse of both coins showed the standard collector design, as seen in the prior post.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on November 10, 2018, 09:28:37 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44050.0;attach=86188;image)

Samoa, 2 sene, 1967.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44050.0;attach=86214;image)

Samoa, 2 sene, 2000.  FAO-themed issue.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on November 10, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44050.0;attach=86194;image)

Western Samoa.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44050.0;attach=86212;image)

Samoa.  The country changed its name in 1997.
Title: Re: Altered legend with same or similar design
Post by: <k> on March 28, 2019, 06:40:23 PM
In 1983 Jamaica issued a collector set of its coinage with an altered legend. The legend commemorated the country's 21st anniversary of independence. These coins did not circulate.