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Modern European coins except the euro => UK and Ireland => UK Decimal coins => Topic started by: eurocoin on October 28, 2017, 07:08:02 PM

Title: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 28, 2017, 07:08:02 PM
The issuance program of 2018 is now for some time in my possession. Good friends (very few on this website these days) have already been allowed to have a look at it. There will be 6 commemorative 2 pounds coins and 6 commemorative 50p coins.

4 of the commemorative 50p coins will commemorate Beatrix Potter. These coins will again depict several characters, one of which will again be Peter Rabbit. Furthermore 1 of the 2 pounds coins will commemorate the First World War. More information can not yet be released as there is still an embargo on the program.

It is going to be a very special mint year
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: redlock on October 29, 2017, 08:49:40 AM
There will be 6 commemorative 2 pounds coins and 6 commemorative 50p coins.

The UK will be leaving the EU but the issuing program is very similar to many Eurozone countries (and others around the world): Too many coins per year.
Example: The ''two €2 commemorative coins per country and year'' has ruined this field for many collectors. But this is a subject for another thread.

What's the Royal Mint's obsession with Beatrix Potter?

One of the £2 will most likely commemorate the end of WWI (Armistice).  ;)

When will the embargo end?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on October 29, 2017, 09:55:46 AM
The Beatrix Potter has been a good money spinner for the Royal Mint....they been selling out of the not for circulation sets for each one so far.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 29, 2017, 10:00:52 AM
When will the embargo end?

Nobody knows, the information was shared to an acquiantance by an employee of The Royal Mint. This employee also gave my acquiantance permission to share it, which she did. Few days later there was a digital raid of Royal Mint staff on several websites demanding the information to be deleted.

I only shared the information with my good friends between the day of the permission of The Royal Mint employee and the day on which it became clear the permission was not legitimate.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on November 04, 2017, 11:00:10 AM
Chards speculate on the 2018 anniversaries that might be being marked by commemorative coins.  It’s November now so we’ll know soon enough.

https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/2018-coin-predictions/113
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: gerard974 on November 04, 2017, 11:10:43 AM
bonjour
vous n'avez qu'a garder la pour vous et faire profiter"vos bons amis" de votre liste  ,un jour ou l'autre nous saurons quelles pieces vont être émises
Gérard

you can just keep one for yourself and allow your "good friends" to benefit from your duplicats, one day we will know which pieces will be issued
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on November 12, 2017, 10:03:37 AM
http://www.royalmint.com/search-results?q=2018

Lists a £5 coin - The 70th Birthday of the Prince of Wales 2018 UK

What also interesting is the following:

The Great British Coin Hunt - Bond 2018 UK 10p Silver Proof Coin
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on November 12, 2017, 10:34:24 AM
http://www.royalmint.com/search-results?q=2018

What also interesting is the following:

The Great British Coin Hunt - Bond 2018 UK 10p Silver Proof Coin
My immediate thought there is the obvious - James Bond - but surely not?  The next Bond film (the 25th) won’t be released until November 2019, and there are no significant anniversaries of either the first book or the first film.

However, the other significant Bond - Michael Bond - issued the first Paddington Bear book in 1958 so there’s an anniversary there.  Numerous Beatrix Potter 50p coins but apparently Paddington is only worthy of a 10p?

The price of it (£60) is consistent with what you’d expect a silver version of the circulation specification 10p (6.5 grams) to sell for these days though.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 12, 2017, 11:30:39 AM
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My immediate thought there is the obvious - James Bond - but surely not?  The next Bond film (the 25th) won’t be released until November 2019, and there are no significant anniversaries of either the first book or the first film.

However, the other significant Bond - Michael Bond - issued the first Paddington Bear book in 1958 so there’s an anniversary there. 

Thought the same.

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Numerous Beatrix Potter 50p coins but apparently Paddington is only worthy of a 10p?

A commemorative 10p coin? Don't think so. Likely a normal silver 10p in some kind of packaging related to the anniversary.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on November 12, 2017, 12:34:07 PM
A normal 10p coin in silver wouldn’t make much sense though, particularly as the standard design is part of that Dent jigsaw.  It would be a bit of an insult really.  I think Paddington should warrant at least one 50p coin.

Was there a Paddington story involving a two-shilling or 10p piece?  Trying to work out the reasoning for it.

There’s a customer review for a Paddington book on Amazon:
“Paddington is great. I'm 56 but still love reading the ORIGINAL stories (can't quite get used to reading 10p instead of two shillings, though!)”
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 17, 2017, 07:31:34 PM
There will be a 5 pounds coin next year to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the Royal Academy of Arts.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 17, 2017, 07:56:19 PM
Next year The Royal Mint will issue the following 2 pounds commemorative coins:

2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce - Spitfire
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Vulcan
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Sea King
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Lightning II
2 Pound 200th Anniversary of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the First World War - Armistice
2 Pound 250th Anniversary of Captain Cooks Voyage of Discovery (1768-2018)

Followed in 2019 and 2020 by:

2 Pound 250th Anniversary of Captain Cooks Voyage of Discovery (1769-2019)
2 Pound 250th Anniversary of Captain Cooks Voyage of Discovery (1770-2020)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 17, 2017, 08:00:37 PM
Furthermore a 100th anniversary of the Representation of the People's Act 50p coin in 2018.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: redlock on November 18, 2017, 08:48:54 AM
Next year The Royal Mint will issue the following 2 pounds commemorative coins:

2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce - Spitfire
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Vulcan
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Sea King
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Lightning II
2 Pound 200th Anniversary of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the First World War - Armistice
2 Pound 250th Anniversary of Captain Cooks Voyage of Discovery (1768-2018)


That's what I call an ''excessive release program.''
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: FosseWay on November 18, 2017, 09:37:47 AM
Furthermore a 100th anniversary of the People's Act 50p coin in 2018.

The Representation of the People Act 1918 I presume - the act that took the first step towards giving women the same voting rights as men.

I agree that the issue plan as outlined by eurocoin is somewhat excessive. But equally I don't think there should be a blanket numerical limit on commemoratives as imposed by the ECB on euro issuers. 2018 is a year of significant anniversaries. The RotP Act, the end of WW1 and the foundation of the RAF are all worthy subjects, I think. But just the one coin per event will do.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on November 18, 2017, 08:48:20 PM
I hope all of these coins will be included in the annual sets.  However, with a total of nine £2 coins including the standard, I’m sure it will be an excuse for the Mint to push the BU set up to near the £100 mark.  Or perhaps at least £75 if we’re lucky.  And then keep it at that price in 2019 even if there are fewer £2 coins in it...

[My discussion on lack of a new £1 coin design in 2018 has been split off into a separate topic]
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on November 19, 2017, 07:49:28 AM
EIGHT circulating £2 commemorative coins in one year? Seems that Royal Mint wants to have some serious competition with the Polish mint!

Aditya
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: africancoins on November 20, 2017, 07:18:12 PM
Does anyone think that perhaps the RAF planes would have been on 50 Pence pieces (instead of 2 Pound coins) had it not been for more rabbits and things being planned for 4 of the 2018 50 Pence types ?

Thanks Mr Paul Baker
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on November 20, 2017, 11:41:04 PM
^^ I’m OK with the choice of denomination as it ties in with the WW1 anniversary coins, but I think five coins for one anniversary is excessive.  It’s the way it’s been going for several years though, so I wasn’t too surprised.

I hope next year is the final issue of Beatrix Potter coins though.  I don’t think that idea could or should be stretched any further.  There are other children’s book characters that are just as worthy of commemoration.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on November 27, 2017, 04:18:29 PM
Prince Harry is getting married in 2018 Spring. Another commemorative (perhaps a £5)?

Aditya
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on December 15, 2017, 05:20:17 PM
The 50 pence.

DESIGN OF THE COINS

4. The design of the said fifty pence gold, silver and cupro-nickel coins shall be as follows:

(a) ‘For the obverse impression either Our effigy with the inscription “· ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · F · D · 50 PENCE ·”and the date of the year and for the reverse designs either:

(i) a depiction of Mrs Tittlemouse with the inscription “MRS TITTLEMOUSE”; or

(ii) a depiction of the Tailor of Gloucester with the inscription “THE TAILOR OF GLOUCESTER”; or

(iii) a depiction of Flopsy Bunny with the inscription “FLOPSY BUNNY”; or

(iv) a depiction of Peter Rabbit with the inscription “PETER RABBIT”; or, for the cupro-nickel coins:

(b) For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· ELIZABETH II · DEI · GRA · REG · FID · DEF · 2018” and for the reverse an interpretation of elements of Newton’s Proposition 11 from Book One of Principia Mathematica, accompanied by the inscription “SIR ISAAC NEWTON” and the denomination “FIFTY PENCE”.



https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2929909

I do not understand parts of the notice that I quoted above. Do coins of different metals get different diesgns?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on December 15, 2017, 05:21:48 PM
The 5 pounds coin.

The design of the said cupro-nickel coin shall be as follows:

‘For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · FID · DEF · 5 POUNDS ·”, and for the reverse a depiction of Our initial accompanied by those of His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales, His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge and His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge, royally crowned, above an oak garland with the inscription “· FOUR GENERATIONS OF THE ROYAL FAMILY ·” and the date of the year.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2929910
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on December 15, 2017, 05:24:47 PM
More 5 pound coins.

The design of the said cupro-nickel coin shall be as follows:

‘For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · FID · DEF · 5 POUNDS”, and for the reverse either:

(a) a depiction of the Black Bull of Clarence supporting the arms as used by Edward IV and Richard III as well as all the Sovereigns of the Houses of Lancaster and Tudor with the inscription “· BLACK BULL OF CLARENCE ·” and the date of the year; or

(b) a depiction of the Falcon of the Plantagenets above the personal badge of Edward IV with the inscription “· FALCON OF THE PLANTAGENETS ·” and the date of the year.

The coin shall have a grained edge.’

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2929908
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on December 15, 2017, 05:30:37 PM
Various gold and silver coins.

For the reverse a design depicting a kneeling soldier accompanied by the inscription “ARMISTICE THE GUNS FALL SILENT”.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2929906

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/notice?end-publish-date=2017-12-15&text=coinage+act&start-publish-date=2017-12-12&location-distance-1=1&service=all-notices&categorycode-all=all&numberOfLocationSearches=1&results-page=1
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on December 16, 2017, 11:17:48 PM
The 50 pence.

DESIGN OF THE COINS

4. The design of the said fifty pence gold, silver and cupro-nickel coins shall be as follows:

(a) ‘For the obverse impression either Our effigy with the inscription “· ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · F · D · 50 PENCE ·”and the date of the year and for the reverse designs either:

(i) a depiction of Mrs Tittlemouse with the inscription “MRS TITTLEMOUSE”; or

(ii) a depiction of the Tailor of Gloucester with the inscription “THE TAILOR OF GLOUCESTER”; or

(iii) a depiction of Flopsy Bunny with the inscription “FLOPSY BUNNY”; or

(iv) a depiction of Peter Rabbit with the inscription “PETER RABBIT”; or, for the cupro-nickel coins:

(b) For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· ELIZABETH II · DEI · GRA · REG · FID · DEF · 2018” and for the reverse an interpretation of elements of Newton’s Proposition 11 from Book One of Principia Mathematica, accompanied by the inscription “SIR ISAAC NEWTON” and the denomination “FIFTY PENCE”.



https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2929909

I do not understand parts of the notice that I quoted above. Do coins of different metals get different diesgns?

I would imagine the Beatrix Potter coins will be available in cupro nickel and silver, and the Issac Newton in all three metals. Interesting that there is another Newton coin. And no suprise at another 4 Potter coins!! Looking forward to seeing what new coins 2018 will bring.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on December 16, 2017, 11:40:39 PM
The wording is terrible. It gave me the impression that the Newton coins would only be in cupro-nickel. And the "either - or, or, or, or". It's just "either / or" - a choice between two items, not several.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on December 16, 2017, 11:47:14 PM
The wording is terrible. It gave me the impression that the Newton coins would only be in cupro-nickel. And the "either - or, or, or, or". It's just "either / or" - a choice between two items, not several.
Yeah had to read it a couple of times. They could have made it a lot clearer with half the words!!
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 31, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: eurocoin
Next year The Royal Mint will issue the following commemorative coins:

50 Pence 100th anniversary of the Representation of the People's Act.
50 Pence 150th anniversary of the birth of Beatrix Potter - Mrs Tittlemouse
50 Pence 150th anniversary of the birth of Beatrix Potter - Flopsy Bunny
50 Pence 150th anniversary of the birth of Beatrix Potter - Peter Rabbit
50 Pence 150th anniversary of the birth of Beatrix Potter - The Tailor of Gloucester

2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce - Spitfire
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Vulcan
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Sea King
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Lightning II
2 Pound 200th Anniversary of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the First World War - Armistice
2 Pound 250th Anniversary of Captain Cooks Voyage of Discovery (1768-2018)

In addition to this, The Royal Mint will also issue a 2018-dated Newton 50p coin with the same design as the one issued in 2017. The coin will only be available from The Royal Mint Experience (their visitor centre) and this only for a limited time.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on December 31, 2017, 12:26:49 PM
Interesting... I did go to the Experience last year but this might make it worth going again!  I’m assuming this is the “strike your own coin” to replace the 2017 £1. 

Welcome back, eurocoin, I’m sure you’ll have plenty of coin info for us in 2018.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 31, 2017, 12:45:29 PM
Interesting... I did go to the Experience last year but this might make it worth going again!  I’m assuming this is the “strike your own coin” to replace the 2017 £1.

Yes it will be possible to strike your own 2018-dated Newton 50p coin. I do not know if the 2018-dated Newton coin will also be available from the gift shop. It replaces the 2017-dated Newton 50p coin which could be minted since October 17 of this year. In the more distant past it was possible to strike your own 2016-dated 'Last round pound' and later 2017-dated new 1 pound coin.

Welcome back, eurocoin, I’m sure you’ll have plenty of coin info for us in 2018.

Thank you.

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 01:27:40 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180101/665410a34f91b700312d7330871c1e7c.jpg)
Finally, some of the 2018-dated designs.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on January 01, 2018, 08:35:43 AM
Do not like the Frankenstein and World War I.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 12:08:25 PM
I agree.  When there are words going round the edge anyway, to then have more in the main field of the design is a bit too much.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on January 01, 2018, 12:58:24 PM
Seems to be the big thing of making coins as cheaply as possible by just using wording. Too many 2 euro coins are the same.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 01:31:25 PM
Sets now available to order from the Royal Mint:

https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/ranges/annual-sets/?eso=PublishDate&__ja=tsid%3a38667%7ckw%3aE1875A&utm_campaign=Annual_Sets_2018&utm_medium=email&utm_source=HouseList

https://www.facebook.com/ChangeChecker/videos/1773449742728160/
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2018, 01:38:24 PM
What? No new pound design?  :o  Maybe next year, then - once we've got used to it.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on January 01, 2018, 02:08:35 PM
So the 'cheapest' proof set costs £155. Do such overpriced sets actually attract new buyers, I wonder (or even retain the existing customers)? ::)

Aditya
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 03:15:43 PM
So the 'cheapest' proof set costs £155. Do such overpriced sets actually attract new buyers, I wonder (or even retain the existing customers)? ::)

Aditya

Plus only some of the coins mentioned in eurocoin’s post above are included in the sets.  I expected the Beatrix Potter ones not to be, but the Captain Cook one is a disappointing and inexplicable omission.  Hopefully the four Royal Air Force ones will get a set of their own rather than separate issues.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: chrisild on January 01, 2018, 06:11:27 PM
I agree.  When there are words going round the edge anyway, to then have more in the main field of the design is a bit too much.

At least the designer(s) of the two "text coins" actually created a design. :) The third £2 coin - Air Force anniversary - merely reproduces the RAF emblem ...

The Frankenstein design is not bad in my opinion. The text in the center not only provides the title of the novel but does that in a way that makes you think of electricity, of the way the creature was brought to life.

That 50p commem looks OK to me. And the WW1 coin, well, the quote from the poem reflects that even the winners of the armistice were not in the mood to have a joyful celebration. "Heroic" designs with some soldiers fighting some battle may be easier to do but would not really have been an option in this case.

Christian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on January 01, 2018, 06:19:04 PM
The 5 pounds coin depicting St George and the dragon commemorates the 5th anniversary of Prince George. There is no connection whatsoever between the theme of the coin and what is depicted on it.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 07:00:13 PM
Yes, I didn’t know what the £5 was for until I watched the Change Checker video.  Fifth birthday of Prince George is a non-event if ever there was one.  His father has never had any of his milestone birthdays commemorated on a UK coin (unless anyone knows otherwise?).  And a fifth birthday is not a milestone in any case.  St George for Prince George, great...

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2018, 07:29:01 PM
Yes, I didn’t know what the £5 was for until I watched the Change Checker video.  Fifth birthday of Prince George is a non-event if ever there was one.  His father has never had any of his milestone birthdays commemorated on a UK coin (unless anyone knows otherwise?).  And a fifth birthday is not a milestone in any case.  St George for Prince George, great...

(http://www.coin-database.com/images/United-Kingdom/1783-v.jpg)

5 pounds: Prince William and Kate Middleton Royal Engagement, 2011.

Yes, but no birthday, you are right.

 
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
The Frankenstein design is not bad in my opinion. The text in the center not only provides the title of the novel but does that in a way that makes you think of electricity, of the way the creature was brought to life.

Christian

Trust you to praise that horrible monster that your fellow ethnic Germans created. As if it isn't bad enough that you lot created Asperger's (which probably afflicts a few on this forum) and Alzheimer's and let them loose into the world.  >:(  As for us English, we are saints in comparison: probably our worst crime was inventing custard.  :-[
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 08:58:37 PM
More details of the new coins, complete with obverses.  <k>, I don’t think there are any new variations on obverse inscriptions this year, so no updates required to those topics other than that I’ll need to add coins to it that hadn’t been issued when I did them.

https://blog.changechecker.org/2018/01/01/first-look-new-royal-mint-coin-designs-for-2018/?utm_campaign=2018+uk+certified+bu+coin+set&utm_content=post&utm_medium=social&utm_source=general&utm_term=
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: hertfordian on January 01, 2018, 09:47:50 PM
<k>, I don’t think there are any new variations on obverse inscriptions this year, so no updates required to those topics other than that I’ll need to add coins to it that hadn’t been issued when I did them.

https://blog.changechecker.org/2018/01/01/first-look-new-royal-mint-coin-designs-for-2018/?utm_campaign=2018+uk+certified+bu+coin+set&utm_content=post&utm_medium=social&utm_source=general&utm_term=

I have noticed that the 5 pound coin is different from the other denominations (both lower AND higher) because it has "DG" but "FID DEF" as the value has been included.  On most of the other coins I have noticed on their website, the RM seems to have settled into a convention with the coins with the Clark portrait - they have shown "DEI GRA" and "FID DEF" if the date has been showing, and "DG" and "FD" if the value has been included (with a numeric value and then "POUNDS" in words) but this value seems to buck that trend. 

Is there any rationale to this or is it just a shoddy approach to consistency on the part of the RM (it's awful when you're as anal as I am about such things!).  Before anyone says it's down to the size of the coin (i.e. 38mm), this doesn't work with the considerably larger 5 ounce silver/gold 10 pound coins  >:(

Happy new year!

Ian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 01, 2018, 09:59:24 PM
I have noticed that the 5 pound coin is different from the other denominations (both lower AND higher) because it has "DG" but "FID DEF" as the value has been included.  On most of the other coins I have noticed on their website, the RM seems to have settled into a convention with the coins with the Clark portrait - they have shown "DEI GRA" and "FID DEF" if the date has been showing, and "DG" and "FD" if the value has been included (with a numeric value and then "POUNDS" in words) but this value seems to buck that trend. 

Is there any rationale to this or is it just a shoddy approach to consistency on the part of the RM (it's awful when you're as anal as I am about such things!).  Before anyone says it's down to the size of the coin (i.e. 38mm), this doesn't work with the considerably larger 5 ounce silver/gold 10 pound coins  >:(

Sorry, Ian, you’re right.  I hadn’t included the £5 in my topics, so my previous post was referring to £2 and 50p coins only.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: hertfordian on January 01, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
No worries - I just made a minor amendment to the post I made as I noticed last year's 5 pound coins had the same obverse legends....

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: chrisild on January 01, 2018, 10:45:39 PM
Trust you to praise that horrible monster that your fellow ethnic Germans created.

Guess you are referring to some imaginary Swiss created by one of your fellow Brits. :)  As for the 1918-2018 coin, it will be interesting to see what other countries have or will come up with. Could even be an interesting little theme collection ...

Christian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2018, 11:35:44 PM
More details of the new coins, complete with obverses.  <k>, I don’t think there are any new variations on obverse inscriptions this year, so no updates required to those topics other than that I’ll need to add coins to it that hadn’t been issued when I did them.

https://blog.changechecker.org/2018/01/01/first-look-new-royal-mint-coin-designs-for-2018/?utm_campaign=2018+uk+certified+bu+coin+set&utm_content=post&utm_medium=social&utm_source=general&utm_term=

Very good.  ;)

I do wish you would "clothe" your hyperlinks, though:

First look: New Royal Mint coin designs for 2018! (https://blog.changechecker.org/2018/01/01/first-look-new-royal-mint-coin-designs-for-2018/?utm_campaign=2018+uk+certified+bu+coin+set&utm_content=post&utm_medium=social&utm_source=general&utm_term=)

Naked, they look messy - you are following chrisild's bad habits. Next you will be ending your every comment with four dots.  >:(

Anyway, I was hoping izotz would have figured out how to allow us drag and drop URLs by now, so that we didn't have to take the trouble to clothe then with BB code.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2018, 11:40:13 PM
Guess you are referring to some imaginary Swiss created by one of your fellow Brits. :) 

These creatures and creations all exist on the astral plane and in the "imaginal" world.

As for the 1918-2018 coin, it will be interesting to see what other countries have or will come up with. Could even be an interesting little theme collection ...

I do not like these "all text" designs, which strike me as lazy, nor those pictorial designs with over-prominent text, such as the "Representation of the People Act" 50p.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: chrisild on January 02, 2018, 11:23:52 AM
Ah, but not all "text only" designs are created equal. :)  As I wrote, the Frankenstein design and font make sense to me, partly because the characters do remind of how the "monster" became alive. The other reason is that a scene featuring Frankenstein and/or his creature might make people think of movies instead of the novel. Maybe depicting the cover page of the first edition would have been another viable option.

The WW1 coin ... not so great, I think, but I guess that whoever picked the designs wanted to avoid the umpteenth war coin featuring a poppy. Depicting a military cemetery would have "excluded" the many other victims of that war, and simply avoiding the theme - which is what Germany does this year, coin wise - would be odd too.

Again, a design focusing on or consisting of characters only is not that great. But a design that simply grabs the official emblem of an event or organization and puts that and nothing else on a coin is just boring. So for me the RAF "design" is even worse than the other £2 designs of 2018. The 50 pence coin design is a fairly well balanced mix of text and people. With that theme you have the problem that men and women did at that time not get equal voting rights, so any symbol representing gender equality would not have been appropriate. :)

Christian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 04, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
News of the Isaac Newton 2018 50p mentioned earlier in this topic has hit Change Checker, along with circulation figures (apologies for the undressed link, <k>):

https://blog.changechecker.org/2018/01/04/could-the-2018-sir-isaac-newton-50p-coin-become-the-rarest-50p-ever/?utm_campaign=50p&utm_content=post&utm_medium=social&utm_source=general&utm_term=557u
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on January 04, 2018, 09:19:46 PM
The 2018-dated Newton 50p is available at the Royal Mint Experience until at least the end of February. They are now already selling for 70 pounds each.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on January 04, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
(apologies for the undressed link, <k>):

Hang your head in shame, Alan71.  >:(  We rightly expect better from moderators.

Strangely, it's been some months since I've received ANY circulation commemoratives in change. I use the self-service points a lot in supermarkets, and these seem to dispense only regular coinage.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on January 11, 2018, 10:35:11 PM
Not sure if anyone on here gets the uncirculated coin collection (the one with the commemoratives and the standard coins).  It’s now £55 and sent recorded delivery by the Royal Mint.  However, the packaging they send them in is awful.  It’s that cardboard flat packaging that has creases in so that it can expand.  Fine if what’s being sent is reasonably flat, but not for a folder like this.  The slipcase the folder comes in was quite badly creased on the spine, because the packaging provided no protection whatsoever when it was in transit.

I shall be sending it back - I’ve already contacted them to recommend better packaging for such items.  Amazon also use this style and similarly items can arrive damaged.

Anyone thinking of ordering this from the Mint would be better advised to go to their nearest larger post office that has them for sale - at least the item can be inspected on site and swapped if any damage.  Not sure I will be ordering directly from the Mint ever again, certainly not this set.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 09, 2018, 01:17:27 PM
There will this year be 2 commemorative 50p coins to commemorate Paddington Bear. One will depict Paddington Bear waiving a Union Flag in front of Buckingham Palace, the other will depict Paddington Bear sitting on a suitcase inside Paddington Station.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: quaziright on February 10, 2018, 06:52:31 PM
This thread is much to long and tangential. If I understand conrrectly, the British mint is going to issue 26x 10p coins into circulation each denoting an Alphabet ??? And I thought the RCM was pushing it with collector coins.

There has been a spate of 50pence and 2poubd commémoratives as well. Are all of these issues into circulation? Or is it like Canada where some loonies  are special collector editions albeit with the same dimensions as circulation loonies?

If so, is there a list on the royal mint website that will clarify this for me? Someone was kind enough early on to give me a link for the Australian commemorative issues
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 10, 2018, 07:25:52 PM
There has been a spate of 50pence and 2poubd commémoratives as well. Are all of these issues into circulation? Or is it like Canada where some loonies  are special collector editions albeit with the same dimensions as circulation loonies?

If so, is there a list on the royal mint website that will clarify this for me? Someone was kind enough early on to give me a link for the Australian commemorative issues
See https://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/circulation-coin-mintage-figures/two-pounds-to-20p-issued

The format of the list changed fairly recently and is quite difficult to work out, but the figures are all there, updated to include 2017-dated coins.

All commemorative £2 and 50p coins so far have been circulation issues, but some far more limited than others (Kew Gardens 50p being the most famous).

Although not a commemorative, a 2016 round £1 coin had an exclusive design and this was only in sets.  No round £1 coins with that design were issued into circulation.  As far as I know (and I’m fairly sure), this was the only 50p, £1 or £2 design not issued to circulation at all.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 10, 2018, 07:46:43 PM
All commemorative £2 and 50p coins so far have been circulation issues, but some far more limited than others (Kew Gardens 50p being the most famous).

I believe the Single Market 50p of 1992 is the only real exception here. Furthermore there is of course the 2017-dated Newton 50p that was issued into circulation, but the 2018-dated Newton 50p with the same design as the 2017 one wasn't. Furthermore the 2009-dated Athletics 50p that wasn't issued into circulation but the 2011-dated Athletics 50p with the same design was.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: quaziright on February 10, 2018, 08:31:57 PM
See https://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/circulation-coin-mintage-figures/two-pounds-to-20p-issued

The format of the list changed fairly recently and is quite difficult to work out, but the figures are all there, updated to include 2017-dated coins.

All commemorative £2 and 50p coins so far have been circulation issues, but some far more limited than others (Kew Gardens 50p being the most famous).

Although not a commemorative, a 2016 round £1 coin had an exclusive design and this was only in sets.  No round £1 coins with that design were issued into circulation.  As far as I know (and I’m fairly sure), this was the only 50p, £1 or £2 design not issued to circulation at all.

Thank you!
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 10, 2018, 10:02:03 PM
I believe the Single Market 50p of 1992 is the only real exception here. Furthermore there is of course the 2017-dated Newton 50p that was issued into circulation, but the 2018-dated Newton 50p with the same design as the 2017 one wasn't. Furthermore the 2009-dated Athletics 50p that wasn't issued into circulation but the 2011-dated Athletics 50p with the same design was.
The 1992-93 coin was issued for circulation, but a mere 109,000.  This is the smallest circulation issue of all, but Kew Gardens’ 210,000 remains much more famous (helped by the fact that the earlier coin is no longer legal tender).

You’re right on both the Athletics and Newton coins, but I was going on design alone and not obverse date.  In terms of design, it’s only the 2016 £1 coin that wasn’t issued for circulation.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 13, 2018, 07:28:09 PM
Peter Rabbit 50p in BU and Proof will be issued February 19.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 14, 2018, 04:48:55 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4657/39367390175_2646f80839_b.jpg)



The basemetal 5 pounds coin for the 250th anniversary of the Royal Academy of Arts is from today exclusively available from the Change Checker website (https://www.westminstercollection.com/p-521X/2018-UK-Royal-Academy-of-Arts-CERTIFIED-BU-5-Pound.aspx?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2018+uk+royal+academy+of+arts+bu+5+pound&utm_term=521x&utm_content=the+uks+brand+new+5+pound+coin+is+the+rarest+of+them+all&sn=d&brand=changechecker&mc_cid=42286956fb&mc_eid=530d32e2c9). It is expected it will at a later date also become available at The Royal Mint. With a mintage of only 12,000 pieces it will be the rarest basemetal 5 pounds coin ever.

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on February 14, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
Royal Mint has the silver proof 250th Anniversary of Royal Academy £5 on their web site for £82.50.

https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/250th-anniversary-of-the-royal-academy-of-arts/250th-Anniversary-of-the-Royal-Academy-of-Arts-2018-UK-5-pound-Silver-Proof-Coin/
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 14, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
Is Change Checker/Westminster linked to the Royal Mint?  I received emails from both today.  It’s as though they are working together on this and the Mint clearly make BU coins available to Westminster for them to re-package.  Stephen Allen at Westminster definitely worked for the Royal Mint for a while so presumably had some contacts there.

I’ve long since stopped collecting £5 coins and only get the ones in year sets.  I’ve lost count of how many there have been.  I suppose it’s the Royal Academy so has been deemed worthy of a £5.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 14, 2018, 06:48:54 PM
Peter Rabbit 50p in BU and Proof will be issued February 19.
When I first saw this, I misread it as being February 2019 and was thinking they’re going to milk the Beatrix Potter theme for a fourth year.  Took me a while to realise 19 was the date!  The way it’s going, there probably will be more next year though...
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: andyg on February 18, 2018, 06:36:20 PM
Official Paddington Bear notice here;
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2965798 (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2965798)

DESIGNS OF THE COINS

4. (1) The designs of the said fifty pence gold, silver and cupro-nickel coins shall be as follows: ‘For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription

“· ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · F · D · 50 PENCE ·”, and the date of the year, and for the reverse either:

(a) a design depicting Paddington Bear sitting on a suitcase inside Paddington Station; or

(b) a design depicting Paddington Bear waving a Union Flag outside Buckingham Palace.

The coins shall have a plain edge.’

5. This Proclamation shall come into force on the ninth day of February Two thousand and eighteen.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on February 18, 2018, 09:26:52 PM
andyg, the Royal Mint took that notice down months ago. You are in grave danger of being sent to prison. Hurry, hide in the Ecuadoran embassy in London with Julian Assange. I'll tell you when it's safe to come out.  :-X
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 19, 2018, 05:56:54 AM
The 4 new Beatrix Potter 50p coins:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4759/40306699012_5e37854b43_o.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 19, 2018, 08:29:10 AM
As I write, this is the second most-read item on the BBC News app.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43106065

Note the line “enter general circulation for a limited time later this year.”  I’m taking the “limited time” to mean they will be snapped up by collectors/eBay profiteerers in no time.  Their life on eBay will be much less limited!
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 19, 2018, 08:37:49 AM
And once again it’s Westminster/Change Checker offering it first.  Even with postage, this is still less than the Royal Mint price of £10 with its over-elaborate folder.



Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 22, 2018, 09:57:39 PM
No design leaks yet, but Change Checker reports the following:

According to the Royal Proclamation, published on 9 February, there will be two new coins:

– Paddington Bear sitting on a suitcase in front of Paddington Station

– Paddington Bear waving a Union Flag outside Buckingham Palace

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 23, 2018, 08:17:25 AM
I think it is now clear to everyone that there will be Paddington coins, or so I hope at least.  ;)

There will this year be 2 commemorative 50p coins to commemorate Paddington Bear. One will depict Paddington Bear waiving a Union Flag in front of Buckingham Palace, the other will depict Paddington Bear sitting on a suitcase inside Paddington Station.

Official Paddington Bear notice here;
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2965798 (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2965798)

DESIGNS OF THE COINS

4. (1) The designs of the said fifty pence gold, silver and cupro-nickel coins shall be as follows: ‘For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription

“· ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · F · D · 50 PENCE ·”, and the date of the year, and for the reverse either:

(a) a design depicting Paddington Bear sitting on a suitcase inside Paddington Station; or

(b) a design depicting Paddington Bear waving a Union Flag outside Buckingham Palace.

The coins shall have a plain edge.’

5. This Proclamation shall come into force on the ninth day of February Two thousand and eighteen.

No design leaks yet, but Change Checker reports the following:

According to the Royal Proclamation, published on 9 February, there will be two new coins:

– Paddington Bear sitting on a suitcase in front of Paddington Station

– Paddington Bear waving a Union Flag outside Buckingham Palace

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on February 23, 2018, 01:30:45 PM
Yeah, sorry, at the time, I couldn’t remember reading that and didn’t check, so I posted it. 
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on February 23, 2018, 06:08:11 PM
So what? Nothing to be sorry about. We have plenty of instances of repeat news on the site. It hasn't hurt anyone yet. Let's stay relaxed.

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 24, 2018, 08:05:16 AM
Yeah, sorry, at the time, I couldn’t remember reading that and didn’t check, so I posted it.

No worries haha.  :)

So what? Nothing to be sorry about. We have plenty of instances of repeat news on the site. It hasn't hurt anyone yet. Let's stay relaxed.

I refer to the last sentence of paragraph 3 of my last email to you.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 05, 2018, 08:45:48 AM
Royal Air Force 2 pounds coins designed by Roger and Neil Talbot:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4724/40629430781_89e76d7644_o.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on March 05, 2018, 06:02:54 PM
Next year The Royal Mint will issue the following 2 pounds commemorative coins:

2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Airforce - Spitfire
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Vulcan
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Sea King
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the Royal Air Force - Lightning II
2 Pound 200th Anniversary of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
2 Pound 100th Anniversary of the First World War - Armistice
2 Pound 250th Anniversary of Captain Cooks Voyage of Discovery (1768-2018)
So the release of these RAF coins brings a further four to fruition from eurocoin’s original post.

I’m glad I knew about these already.  Anyone that didn’t must be wondering when new coin issues are going to end for this year.

We still have the Captain Cook coin left, plus the two Paddington Bear 50p coins.  Anything else I’ve missed?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 07, 2018, 07:21:30 AM
We still have the Captain Cook coin left, plus the two Paddington Bear 50p coins.  Anything else I’ve missed?

Nothing else is known at present.

-----

Strike your own 2018-dated Newton coin will end March 19.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on March 07, 2018, 04:44:56 PM
Strike your own 2018-dated Newton coin will end March 19.

Any news yet on what might replace it?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 07, 2018, 05:00:49 PM
Any news yet on what might replace it?

I do not know which coin will replace it, although there is at present no indication it will again be a coin that is exclusive to The Royal Mint Experience. Later this week The Royal Mint Experience will announce which coin will replace the 2018-dated newton 50p as the new 'strike your own' coin.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on March 07, 2018, 09:36:49 PM
My guess is that it will be another exclusive coin.  They are aware of people booking multiple tours on the same day (literally finishing one and walking into another) and that a non-exclusive coin could seriously reduce their attendance figures.

I  don’t think I could stomach the Experience a third time!
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on March 07, 2018, 10:53:03 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if it was the new a-z 10p's. Strike your own initial! Or your entire name! Probably be a bit of a hastle having to chance the dies though.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on March 08, 2018, 03:03:46 AM
People will change their name by deed poll to something rather long and ridiculous if you get to do your first name for free or something.

Hi, I'm Rumplestiltskin Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: quaziright on March 08, 2018, 03:06:25 AM
What is this mint your own coin? So the Newton 50p isn’t actually like any other commemorative 50p coins issued into circulation?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 08, 2018, 08:03:53 AM
What is this mint your own coin? So the Newton 50p isn’t actually like any other commemorative 50p coins issued into circulation?

The 2017-dated Newton 50p coin was issued into circulation. When you go to The Royal Mint Experience (its on-site visitor centre) and pay for a guided tour, as an option you can pay a few pounds more and then mint your own 50p coin (you only have to hit a button to make the press work). The 50p coin that people can mint from January 1 up until March 18 is the Newton 50p coin but then dated 2018. No 2018-dated Newton 50p coins will be issued into circulation.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on March 08, 2018, 08:22:09 AM
Plus they’re not available anywhere else either.  So it’s a case of going to the Experience, or paying over-the-odds on eBay.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 11, 2018, 07:04:20 PM
The coin that will be the Strike Your Own coin from March 19 is a 2018-dated Britannia 2 pounds coin. A somewhat odd choice..
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 23, 2018, 03:04:57 PM
Some further 5 pounds coins this year (pretty boring):

Copper-nickel:

- Christmas (4 Ballerinas and 4 Nutcrackers in the shape of soldiers)
- Remembrance Day (Poppy)
- 70th anniversary of the Prince of Wales (Portrait)

Silver:

- WWI Commemoration (TE Lawrence)
- WWI Commermoration (Battle of Ypres - British soldiers standing by a grave)
- WWI Commemoration (Tank)
- WWI Commemoration (Woman working in a factory)
- WWI Commemoration (Victoria Cross in front of a family photo)

I have only mentioned the least precious alloy in which the coin will be available.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 26, 2018, 12:01:33 PM
Interesting coin the Royal Mint will soon unveil, mintage will be 50,000.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/791/40982896052_26e273de44_o.jpg)

Image source: World of Coins Forum.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on March 26, 2018, 12:30:15 PM
Interesting design.

Already available for pre-order from one dealer:

https://www.lpm.hk/2018-1-oz-britain-two-dragons-999-silver-coin-bu.html

•Minted to bullion standard

and with the pricing, this appears to be a bullion issue.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on March 26, 2018, 02:03:51 PM
Okay, Wales, I get Wales, but the other dragon???
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on March 26, 2018, 02:37:32 PM
Chinese Dragon.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on March 26, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
Yes, the upper dragon is Asian, the lower one European. I presume the piece is aimed at the Asian speculative metal market.

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on March 26, 2018, 04:43:21 PM
My point (though I didn't express it very well at all) was that Wales is part of the UK and the Chinese dragon has absolutely nothing to do with the UK.

Yes, aimed at the Asian market, it's like San Marino doing a Shakespeare coin. Just absurd really from the perspective that coins are supposed to represent the country that issues them
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on March 26, 2018, 05:19:28 PM
Royal Mint has been doing bullion Lunar Year coins since 2014.

https://www.royalmintbullion.com/Products/Lunar/Silver
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 26, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
Royal Mint has been doing bullion Lunar Year coins since 2014.

https://www.royalmintbullion.com/Products/Lunar/Silver

2018 is the year of the dog.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: chrisild on March 26, 2018, 06:24:51 PM
... and the Royal Mint did make a Year of the Dog bullion coin too. :) Guess the point is that, like other mints, they have issued pieces for the Chinese market before. And since there already is a Welsh dragon in the Queen's Beasts series, they will apparently add a Welsh-Chinese design.

Christian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on April 16, 2018, 07:20:21 PM
People who would like to know the mintage figure of the 2018-dated Newton 50p that was only available from the Royal Mint Experience can send me a PM.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on April 19, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
Only a very limited amount -if any- of the RAF 2 pounds coins will be brought into circulation. The Royal Mint has taken the special RAF coin hunt folders out of sale as people will not be able to fill them.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on April 19, 2018, 12:44:07 PM
Thanks for that, eurocoin.  I’ve pre-ordered them from Change Checker/Westminster.  To be honest I’ve given up on getting any new 50p or £2 commemorative from circulation!

Do we know roughly when the coins in this £2 coin series will be made available?  Apologies if you’ve posted this info further up the thread as I haven’t checked all of it.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on April 19, 2018, 12:49:50 PM
Hereby an overview:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4724/40629430781_89e76d7644_o.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on April 19, 2018, 01:16:29 PM
Thanks eurocoin.  Oops, I can now see you posted that in this very thread on 5 March...
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: redlock on April 19, 2018, 07:46:06 PM
Only a very limited amount -if any- of the RAF 2 pounds coins will be brought into circulation.

Any idea why?

Moreover, can these coins still be considered ''circulation commemoratives'' under these circumstances?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on April 19, 2018, 08:53:52 PM
Any idea why?

No demand from the cash centres for 2 pounds coins. They expect that will not change any time soon. Since the demonetization of the round pound, people have revived old saving jars to spent the round pounds in time and have at the same time also spent or banked all of their other contents which has caused an enormous increase in the number of old coins suddenly returning into circulation. Of other denominations there are currently enormous stocks too because of this.

Moreover, can these coins still be considered ''circulation commemoratives'' under these circumstances?

For me from the moment a certain amount of a commemorative was brought into circulation through the general procedure (by the cash centres) it is a circulating commemorative. It remains to be seen if that will happen with the RAF coins.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on April 19, 2018, 09:21:58 PM
No demand from the cash centres for 2 pounds coins. They expect that will not change any time soon. Since the demonetization of the round pound, people have revived old saving jars to spent the round pounds in time and have at the same time also spent or banked all of their other contents which has caused an enormous increase in the number of old coins suddenly returning into circulation. Of other denominations there are currently enormous stocks too because of this.
This would explain a lot.  In my 25 years of collecting, I can’t recall a period like this.  So far I’ve seen a few 2017-dated 1p coins, and the £1 obviously, but nothing else.  At one point it seemed like every other coin I got in change (particularly the 1p) was the latest issue.  At present, it’s more likely to be much older coins.  I sometimes encounter 2016 issues, but not all that often. 

It’s to be put into perspective though - in the 1980s, few new coin issues were made at all.  The lowest point being the 1984-dated coins, with just three of eight denominations issued.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on April 20, 2018, 02:20:42 AM
It was like this in 2008/2009 period, hence the kew gardens 50p being rare.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on April 20, 2018, 08:07:04 PM
It was like this in 2008/2009 period, hence the kew gardens 50p being rare.

Not quite.  That 50p was indeed rare, and no standard design 50p was issued for circulation dated 2009, but the other denominations were issued.  2008 saw two versions of each of the standard designs issued (Ironside and Dent) and none of them are rare. 

It’s too early to say though.  Andyg did report that other 2017 denominations have been struck, but are sitting awaiting demand.

See
https://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/circulation-coin-mintage-figures/two-pounds-to-20p-issued

And
https://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/circulation-coin-mintage-figures/10p-to-half-penny-issued

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on April 23, 2018, 03:22:36 PM
I think we can be sure a collectors coin will be issued for the birth of the new prince.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on April 25, 2018, 01:06:44 PM
The Royal Mint will soon issue a 5 pounds coin in several alloys for the royal wedding. The coin will depict the portraits of Prince Harry and Megan. Interestingly the coin will have 'Harry' on it and not his official name Henry.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on May 01, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
A quite nice coin. The design was made by Jody Clark. The Royal Mint was granted a private sitting with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to take photos that they could use for the coin design.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/976/41778341402_bbfea4657a.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on May 01, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
A big year for royal themes, then. There's the 70th birthday of Prince Charles, and the Queen's Sapphire Anniversary.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on May 01, 2018, 01:30:12 PM
It’s all a bit incestuous isn’t it?  When Ian Rank-Broadley’s portrait came in, he seemed to be doing lots of commemorative designs.  Now Jody Clark is doing the same.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on May 01, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
At least Jody Clark has done a good job, though I would have preferred it without that inner ring.

As for "incestuous", fancy talking filth on the forum, Alan71.  :o  Anyway, don't they have the same people doing more than one job at your company too? Or maybe employees should be sacked after six months, to avoid staleness.  :-X
Title: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on May 01, 2018, 02:11:55 PM
Not exactly related to 2018 commemorative coins, but HM Treasury has posted a nice video of Trial of Pyx on Twitter. Link is:

https://twitter.com/hmtreasury/status/991014321198108674

(Can be viewed without logging-in)

Aditya
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on May 01, 2018, 09:43:05 PM
The Royal Wedding 5 pounds coin will be the 'Strike Your Own' coin at the Royal Mint Experience on May 19 and May 20.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on May 03, 2018, 08:25:23 PM
All comments I have seen from collectors on the Royal Wedding design by Jody Clark were very negative.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: chrisild on May 04, 2018, 12:07:32 PM
While I do not really care about royalty and who marries whom, I came across this article (https://de.nachrichten.yahoo.com/offizielle-munze-des-royal-wedding-uberrascht-mit-motiv-und-preis-153428960.html) yesterday which basically toots the same horn. ;)  In German but with several Twitter quotes in English.

"Commemorate the Royal Wedding with this mass-produced coin depicting a random couple looking lovingly in each other's eyes." – "Only one word comes to mind - ghastly!" – "I want to get the designer of this coin into a quiet room and have a little chat with them about images of power and subservience" – "Words cannot describe how awful it is."

Christian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on May 05, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
Yes, it’s not exactly the best design is it?  As <k> says, that inner circle is a bit too fussy.  It’s too wordy.  Not sure it needs to say “Royal Wedding” on it.  Thankfully I’ve long since stopped collecting £5 coins so this one won’t be coming anywhere near my collection.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on May 19, 2018, 03:05:08 PM
The 'Strike your own'  royal wedding 5 pounds coin and the packaging it comes in, only available for 2 days from the Royal Mint Experience.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/944/27338646737_ca09a5efa8_z.jpg)(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/981/42163609272_7803d51cb0_z.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on May 27, 2018, 12:36:53 PM
For anyone who still needs to buy some of the new commemoratives, only this weekend 20% discount on all BU coins with code DSC154 (you need to be logged into your account for the code to work) and free postage on all orders.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 06, 2018, 10:45:38 PM
After a way too long struggle due to problems with Flickr and the highly annoying image size limit on here, finally:

It was found in circulation in South Wales. Design by Dave Knapton.

(https://preview.ibb.co/nK0Fxo/Screenshot_20180606_222732.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eMbYiT)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 07, 2018, 12:50:55 AM
In circulation?  I’ve not seen the collector issues yet!  How come it’s been issued to circulation first?  Or, if it’s been found in South Wales, has that one managed to escape from the Royal Mint?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 07, 2018, 06:59:57 AM
In circulation?  I’ve not seen the collector issues yet!  How come it’s been issued to circulation first?  Or, if it’s been found in South Wales, has that one managed to escape from the Royal Mint?

The mint has mistakenly released it into circulation. There may be more of these in circulation.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 07, 2018, 11:09:26 AM
Interesting.  It’s not a bad design.  There are supposed to be two aren’t there?  Do you know when the collector versions might be issued?  (I don’t think that info is in an earlier post but I could be wrong...)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 07, 2018, 11:24:14 AM
Interesting.  It’s not a bad design.  There are supposed to be two aren’t there?  Do you know when the collector versions might be issued?  (I don’t think that info is in an earlier post but I could be wrong...)

Something similar has in the past happened in the Netherlands and last year with one of the Penguin coins of which the design had not yet been unveiled being found in circulation in the UK. Yes there will be 2 Paddington Bear 50p coins. The collectors versions of at least 1 of these Padington coins are sheduled to be released in June according to a concept issuance program that a Royal Mint employee last year posted on his personal Facebook profile. Exact date of issuance is unknown.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on June 07, 2018, 12:20:14 PM
Michael Bond died 27 June last year, so I reckon the coins will be released on Monday the 25th. That is only speculation though!!!!  :)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 07, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
The mint has threatened the person who found the coin that they will take legal action against her if she does not delete the images, which she has now done. Very bad.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 07, 2018, 09:47:24 PM
The mint has threatened the person who found the coin that they will take legal action against her if she does not delete the images, which she has now done. Very bad.
That’s rather naive of them, particularly as the image will have been copied and reproduced elsewhere (as indeed it has been on this forum).  It’s her photo, and there’s no law against posting an image of a coin.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: andyg on June 07, 2018, 11:40:43 PM
That’s rather naive of them, particularly as the image will have been copied and reproduced elsewhere (as indeed it has been on this forum).  It’s her photo, and there’s no law against posting an image of a coin.

It all depends on how she acquired the coin ;)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 09, 2018, 11:29:21 AM
Both the Royal Mint and Change Checker have announced on Facebook about the Paddington coin being seen.  They can’t post a photo of course, but eurocoin provided the exclusive on here!

Unlikely it was smuggled out of the Royal Mint.  And if it had, surely no one would be stupid enough to put it into circulation.  I doubt she works there herself, as unless it was posted anonymously, her job would be at stake.  It must be a genuine error by the Mint, but I wonder how many have been issued.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on June 09, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
One is on eBay at the moment. Bidding is up to £133!! :o
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on June 09, 2018, 12:18:07 PM
If it would be a distribution mistake by the UK mint, why can they hold a private person, unconnected by the mint, responsible? Unless something irregular happened, the mint is responsible for its own mistakes. Surely, the mint wouldn't resort to autocratic bullying, would it?

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 09, 2018, 01:00:38 PM
One is on eBay at the moment. Bidding is up to £133!! :o
People are just so impatient aren’t they?  Wait a few weeks and Westminster will be selling them for around the £5 mark (or £10 from the Royal Mint). 
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 09, 2018, 01:03:07 PM
If it would be a distribution mistake by the UK mint, why can they hold a private person, unconnected by the mint, responsible? Unless something irregular happened, the mint is responsible for its own mistakes. Surely, the mint wouldn't resort to autocratic bullying, would it?
It was possibly an empty threat to try and cover their embarrassment.  They were relying on scare tactics and it clearly worked, but as it’s now on eBay you have to wonder just how naive the Mint are.  I wouldn’t have taken such a threat seriously but clearly she did.

Scrolling down comments on both Change Checker and Royal Mint’s Facebook posts reveals users have posted a photo of it in each.  Makes a complete mockery of both as they say “we can’t bring you a photo yet”.  ;D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 10, 2018, 12:50:14 PM
A second Paddington Bear 50p coin has earlier today been found in circulation in Swindon.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on June 10, 2018, 02:19:34 PM
The one on eBay is up to £15,000 now!!!
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 10, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
The one on eBay is up to £15,000 now!!!

Both coins are now on eBay. As for the one that is already at 15k, obviously the bidder is not going to pay for it.
Title: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on June 10, 2018, 02:58:59 PM
Both coins are now on eBay. As for the one that is already at 15k, obviously the bidder is not going to pay for it.

Shill bidding by the seller himself, perhaps?

Aditya
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 10, 2018, 03:04:39 PM
Shill bidding by the seller himself, perhaps?

Aditya

No, just people who think they are funny. 
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 10, 2018, 04:48:38 PM
Yes, allegedly people in coin groups on Facebook bidding on it to up the price.  To be fair it serves the seller right.  They have no feedback rating so clearly they’ve registered on eBay purely for the purpose of making a quick buck on this coin.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 10, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
Yes, allegedly people in coin groups on Facebook bidding on it to up the price.  To be fair it serves the seller right.  They have no feedback rating so clearly they’ve registered on eBay purely for the purpose of making a quick buck on this coin.

It is indeed true that one or more people of a specific coin collecting group on Facebook that is full of chavs are behind this. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the seller's aim to make a quick buck. After all this very young lady who got the coin in her change and on whose behalf the coin is being sold is not interested in coins and of course there will always be some idiot who is willing to pay more just for the exclusivity of owning the coin before it is being issued. The serious bids went up to 55 pounds.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 10, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
2 further coins have now been found bringing the total to 4. One of the 2 last ones was found in Birmingham. We can now be sure the mint has accidentally released a batch of these.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 10, 2018, 11:37:14 PM
2 further coins have now been found bringing the total to 4. One of the 2 last ones was found in Birmingham. We can now be sure the mint has accidentally released a batch of these.
And all four are on eBay, including the Birmingham one.

Regarding eBay, isn’t it stupidity on all sides?  The seller for trying to make a huge profit on a coin that’s worth 50p; a serious buyer that’s willing to pay a ridiculous price rather than wait a few weeks; and Facebook group members making a mockery of it by placing fake high bids.  I can’t say I support any party.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 11, 2018, 05:46:24 AM
(https://preview.ibb.co/fU81TT/received_1879360445428709.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on June 11, 2018, 06:36:54 AM
I like it, it's the sort of standard of coin that you should expect every time, but as time progresses is lacking (not just British coins either).
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 11, 2018, 08:19:49 AM
Yes, that’s a nice design.  I’d almost forgotten about that one coming out this year.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 11, 2018, 01:12:47 PM
Apparently it will be a jigsaw with the 2 - 2 pounds coins that will be issued in years to come. They will together form the ship.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 11, 2018, 01:14:17 PM
Now suddenly also a proof version has appeared.. Very, very strange.

(https://preview.ibb.co/jHyaoT/received_1879802208717866.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 11, 2018, 06:24:54 PM
And meanwhile, another two Paddington coins from circulation on eBay, bringing it up to six.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 11, 2018, 07:41:05 PM
Some of the Crown post offices now have the BU and Proof coins in stock.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on June 11, 2018, 07:47:52 PM
Meanwhile there is no coin for Rupert Bear, who is English. It's becoming increasingly clear that "Paddington" was only brought in from Peru to drive down our Rupert's wages. Rupert could once no doubt have commanded 100 thousand pounds for posing for a 50 pence design, but "Paddington" was probably content with a couple of jars of marmalade. Time was, UKIP would have organised an emergency meeting about this and picketed the Royal Mint. No wonder nobody votes for UKIP any more.  ::)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Pabitra on June 11, 2018, 08:43:02 PM
So the release of these RAF coins brings a further four to fruition from eurocoin’s original post.

I’m glad I knew about these already.  Anyone that didn’t must be wondering when new coin issues are going to end for this year.

We still have the Captain Cook coin left, plus the two Paddington Bear 50p coins.  Anything else I’ve missed?

Captain Cook's voyage - design details of first of three coins is now known.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 11, 2018, 10:08:54 PM
Captain Cook's voyage - design details of first of three coins is now known.
eurocoin has already posted a photo of it earlier today - see page 10.  It did get a bit buried with the Paddington talk though.  :)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 11, 2018, 10:43:49 PM
Some of the Crown post offices now have the BU and Proof coins in stock.
Sorry, is this the Captain Cook coin or the Paddington?  I’m assuming the former, but with there being the coloured proof Paddington coin you posted, I’m not sure which you meant.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 12, 2018, 08:00:38 AM
Sorry, is this the Captain Cook coin or the Paddington?  I’m assuming the former, but with there being the coloured proof Paddington coin you posted, I’m not sure which you meant.

Paddington.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on June 14, 2018, 03:16:07 PM
Second Paddington Bear design. Ready for pre order Monday. Silver proof's are £65 each...
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 29, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
The UK will issue a Christmas 50p coin this yearit will depict a depiction from the book the Snowman and the boy flying through the air.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on June 29, 2018, 02:51:20 PM
The UK will issue a Christmas 50p coin this yearit will depict a depiction from the book the Snowman and the boy flying through the air.
Interesting.  Was it Gibraltar or Isle of Man that’s already done the Snowman, I can’t remember?  There was a sense of inevitability that the Royal Mint would eventually go down the Christmas 50p line.  At least it is actually the 40th anniversary of Raymond Briggs’ book.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on June 29, 2018, 02:55:48 PM
The Royal Mint seems to be doing all the cartoons. I'm waiting for the Japanese porn anime (does that exist, it must do) coins.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on June 29, 2018, 09:34:14 PM
Interesting.  Was it Gibraltar or Isle of Man that’s already done the Snowman, I can’t remember?  There was a sense of inevitability that the Royal Mint would eventually go down the Christmas 50p line.  At least it is actually the 40th anniversary of Raymond Briggs’ book.

Correct indeed, the Isle of Man issued 2 different coins with illustrations featuring characters of the book.   
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on July 02, 2018, 09:49:38 AM
The Britannia coin is rather unusual this year.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on July 02, 2018, 10:00:13 AM
Neo-classical saccharine style, harking back to 1925, when the empire was at its zenith and real men filled rooms with cigar smoke while playing whist, unobserved by any women. Given the nostalgic references to the British Commonwealth of Leavers it may well be a sop to that part of the market. The Daily Mail will love it. At least, unlike the antique children books figures, it is politically relevant.

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on July 13, 2018, 08:44:31 PM
Discount code DSC155 for 20% off on a lot of products (including many new ones) and free postage.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on July 13, 2018, 10:22:05 PM
Discount code DSC155 for 20% off on a lot of products (including many new ones) and free postage.
Is this for the Royal Mint?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on July 14, 2018, 08:46:10 AM
Is this for the Royal Mint?

Yes.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Deeman on July 31, 2018, 03:17:14 PM
The edge inscription on the Captain Cook coin appeared on a medal struck by The Royal Society following Cook’s untimely death (murdered by natives of Hawaii in 1779).
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on August 15, 2018, 05:04:51 PM
From now up until the end of the year, new batches of Alphabet 10p coins will be released by the post offices.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on August 16, 2018, 10:43:37 AM
Kind of logical they'd do this.

First create a furor over the whole thing, then issue more, rather than issuing loads at the beginning. Gets all the shop workers going crazy.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on August 16, 2018, 06:17:26 PM
I’ve not seen one 10p commemorative in circulation yet.  I imagine they get snapped up by eBay sellers/Facebook collectors that true collectors don’t really get a look-in anymore.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: augsburger on August 17, 2018, 02:59:57 AM
Yes, it's what they're after. It makes people go crazy enough to buy sets from the mint at over-inflated prices.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on August 22, 2018, 05:27:24 PM
The coin for the 40th anniversary of Raymond Briggs' book 'the Snowman' will depict James and the snowman flying as in the image below:

(https://www.licensing.biz/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_590/MTU3NTgxMjM4NDk5MDI2OTA4/thesnowman.webp)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Deeman on August 22, 2018, 06:19:44 PM
Keeping true to the book, the boy in The Snowman is unnamed.
In the film he is named "James" by virtue of a tag on a present he receives from Father Christmas.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on August 28, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Discount code BND094 for a free BU Paddington at the Station 50p coin on each order of at least 60 pounds.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on August 31, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
2018-dated UK coins so far reported as having been found in circulation with an indication of how many were found:

- 26 Alphabet 10p coins (A lot)
- Paddington at the station 50p coin (A few)
- Mrs Tittlemouse 50p coin (One as of today)

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Deeman on September 09, 2018, 10:01:00 PM
I asked the Royal Mint to provide the mintage figure for the 2018 Isaac newton 50p coin from the 'strike your own' RM Experience.

Their response under the FOI request was 19,934.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on September 09, 2018, 11:00:30 PM
Their response under the FOI request was 19,934.

The figure was already a public secret on the forum for a few months but kept confidential because of arrangements with the mint. Good that the figure is now public so it can be shared further.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on September 10, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Their response under the FOI request was 19,934.

19,934. What a beautiful number! So much nicer than 19,933. I bet you re-memorise it every morning, so you can carry the sacred knowledge around with you and chant it to people and maybe even cure their ailments. Of course, humans regularly miscount when the number is over twenty. Even machines can make mistakes. And a human copying a number down from a source is liable to get it wrong if he is not concentrating properly.

It would have been better if you had asked for the names and addresses of the people who did "The Experience", so you could potentially buy their coins off them and corner the market. Or in fact, just sell any coin on ebay and claim it was from "The Experience". People will pay more for it, because they think that makes it more authentic than the mass-produced ones, and probably even sacred too.

An acquaintance recently asked the Royal Mint for some mintage figures regarding an overseas client. He noted with concern that they didn't match the published figures of the client country for that year. The Mint wouldn't revisit them - after all, they were the only figures they had. So now my contact puzzles over whose figures are right.

My own opinion is that there are only two useful mintage figures: "enough" and "hardly any". The 1933 penny is in the latter category, and even then people argue over whether there are really 5, 6 or 7 pieces in existence. And I would bet that the figure you were given is out by at least 8 and maybe 2,007, because of the various errors that creep in.  >:D

I would like to ask why these figures mean so much to you. That some attach such significance to them makes me chuckle. Of course, we all have our obsessions, and this forum is littered with the traces of my own. But here I am just interested in what motivates the "mintage figures obsession". That syndrome is becoming so widespread, somebody ought to invent a word for it.  :D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on September 10, 2018, 10:18:02 AM
My own opinion is that there are only two useful mintage figures: "enough" and "hardly any".

 :like:
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on September 10, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
Oh come on, it does matter to some people!  This will be/is one of the rarest cupro-nickel circulation coins in existence.  It doesn’t appear in any sets so that 19,934 really is it.  Kew Gardens’ 210,000 is topped up by the ones in sets and precious metals.

It’s probably on a par with the Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009.  Out of interest, does anyone (well, eurocoin) know how many of those were issued?  They were only issued in those little card holders.

As both the Blue Peter coin and the Isaac Newton coin were issued in much larger numbers with other dates on, they will never have the notoriety that Kew etc have, but nevertheless they are very rare in comparison.

Out of interest, does anyone (and I really mean eurocoin again!) know what the Royal Mint Experience is currently offering in the strike-your-own coin? 

Besides, if the Mint insists on continually issuing coins in small numbers and publicising that some are rare, then I don’t really have much sympathy if they are then bombarded by FOI requests wanting to know exact figures.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on September 10, 2018, 06:52:14 PM
Oh come on, it does matter to some people!  This will be/is one of the rarest cupro-nickel circulation coins in existence.  It doesn’t appear in any sets so that 19,934 really is it.

See: 50p: Sir Isaac Newton (https://www.changechecker.org/coin/182/50p-Sir-Isaac-Newton.aspx)

Mintage: 1,800,000

So, with a paltry extra 20,000 or so added from "The Experience", just how "rare" is it? And how exactly are the "Experience" versions different? If I put one of each in your hand, could you tell the difference? You're falling prey to commercialism, just as they planned. We do live in a capitalist, materialist world, so I expect a lot of people do get sucked in. You do seem like a very different Alan71 from the one who joined the forum, though.  :-\

Anyway, just how many millions of pounds would these so "rare" pieces earn you? Not very much, in truth. I'm far rarer than any of them, because there is only one of me. You can't even buy me on the slave market - I'm so rare, I'm priceless.  8)  Well, that's until they clone me, of course, and I become a trillionaire selling copies of myself at "The <k> Experience".

Out of interest, what's your favourite TV programme? "Location, Location", perhaps - that indoctrinates you to covet and want to buy expensive things in the hope of turning a profit?  >:D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: kena on September 10, 2018, 07:02:32 PM
The mintage figure of 1,800,000 is for the 2017 Newton coin which was released for circulation.

Are you saying that the 2018 Strike Your Newton is the same coin and that the date of the coin does not matter?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on September 10, 2018, 07:14:59 PM
The mintage figure of 1,800,000 is for the 2017 Newton coin which was released for circulation.

Are you saying that the 2018 Strike Your Newton is the same coin and that the date of the coin does not matter?

Fair enough, I didn't know that and got it wrong. Dates do not interest me: designs are my thing. It matters to whom it matters, but I see it as an advertising ploy to attract people to "The Experience". The Mint is required to turn a profit, so I do not blame them for that. However, it appears to be a commercial matter, far more than a numismatic one, and at least people can read the story here and decide what their own priorities are.  ;)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Deeman on September 10, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Believe the mintage figure for Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009 is 19,751. Another beautiful number for <k>!
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on September 10, 2018, 07:58:30 PM
Believe the mintage figure for Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009 is 19,751. Another beautiful number for <k>!

I won't believe it unless you count them before my very eyes. I think the figure is far more likely to be 19,750½, to allow for wear and tear.  :)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on September 10, 2018, 11:25:33 PM
Believe the mintage figure for Blue Peter Olympic 50p of 2009 is 19,751. Another beautiful number for <k>!
Thanks Deeman, so a very similar number then.

<k>, dates definitely do matter.  They’re usually the most important thing.  I only see designs as being particularly important if they are exclusive to a low mintage (ie. Kew etc).
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on September 11, 2018, 11:37:53 AM
<k>, dates definitely do matter.  They’re usually the most important thing.

Is that so? It depends on the context. No, I think the metal is the most important thing, otherwise the coin would not exist. Then the denomination, otherwise you could not spend it in the shops. It is meant to be money, after all. And for a 50 pence coin, the number of sides is important. Always make sure there are seven sides before accepting the coin in change.  ;)

Quote
  I only see designs as being particularly important if they are exclusive to a low mintage (ie. Kew etc).

In your opinion. So maybe we should adopt almost blank token-like designs, and that would stop any arguments over Mr Dent's designs.  :D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: chrisild on September 11, 2018, 05:16:02 PM
Some coin collectors find dates important, others do not ... and neither does the general public, I think. :) But if you collect a certain coin type by year, you want all dates if possible - and then the mintage becomes relevant.

Christian
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on September 24, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
From October 1, 2018 the Strike Your Own coin at the Royal Mint Experience will be the Frankenstein 2 pounds coin.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: FosseWay on September 24, 2018, 03:56:41 PM
Some coin collectors find dates important, others do not ... and neither does the general public, I think. :) But if you collect a certain coin type by year, you want all dates if possible - and then the mintage becomes relevant.

Christian

Yes, this is it. If the date of coins within an otherwise identical series of coins was totally uninteresting, we wouldn't have the concept of "key dates" and the consequent premium attached to, say, 1905 half-crowns compared to the rest of that series. Enough collectors collect by date for supply and demand to dictate that different market values apply to coins with the same design and in the same condition but with different dates. And because the weight of date collecting is sufficient to affect the price of individual coins in this way, the public becomes aware of "rare dates". This was true well before the age of social media and the Royal Mint's marketing hype - although there is possibly a difference in the reliability of the information the public is aware of.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 08, 2018, 10:27:04 AM
Another 2.6 million Alphabet 10p coins will be released into circulation mid next month. This time they will be released through the banks which hopefully causes that they will actually end up in circulation instead of the post office staff hoarding them (the previous batch of 2.6 million was released through the post offices).

The Snowman 50p coin will be released (mid) next month.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on October 08, 2018, 11:32:20 AM
With the mint and the sensation press constantly hyping new issues, is there any hope that bank staff will not react the same as Post Office staff?

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 12, 2018, 08:55:18 AM
The design of the Snowman 50p coin has just been leaked.


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1931/44351417655_04a42266d2_z.jpg)

Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 12, 2018, 10:38:18 AM
The proof coin will allegedly be the first full colour 50p coin.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 12, 2018, 11:37:48 AM
Well, I never. I predict that one of our members will go through the usual stages:

1] Disbelief.

2] Anger!

3] Acceptance.

4] I've bought some, but only in the expectation that they will go up in value.

 :D ;D >:D :P
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on October 12, 2018, 02:56:18 PM
Well, I never. I predict that one of our members will go through the usual stages:

1] Disbelief.

2] Anger!

3] Acceptance.

4] I've bought some, but only in the expectation that they will go up in value.

 :D ;D >:D :P
Might you be referring to me, <k>? 

Nah, just 3].  I will get just the one but only for completeness.  If it does get to the stage where they are striking 20 different £2 and 50p coins each per year then I might have to review my collecting habits.  For now it’s just about manageable.  Over the years (1993 to date) I’ve gone from having circulated, BU, Proof and silver of each coin available to now just getting BU (and circulated if I happen to get them in change).  Plus I haven’t bothered with £5 coins for years.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 12, 2018, 03:04:23 PM
Might you be referring to me, <k>? 

You are a good guesser.  ;)  Or was it telepathy? I do wonder what the fundamentalist Christians will make of that boy, indulging in astral projection and flying through the skies with a snowman.  :-X
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on October 15, 2018, 08:38:13 AM
The Royal Mint will issue a special 5 pounds coin for the 70th anniversary of Prince Charles.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/44608284954_f90c8dab30_z.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 15, 2018, 09:00:08 AM
The Prince is looking sombre as always. Will be interesting to see who designed it. They'd better do a coloured version, or Alan71 won't buy it.  ;D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on October 15, 2018, 09:02:54 AM
What? Still no comments on the ears?

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 15, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
How dare you, Sir! They're pretty normal for Britain.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 15, 2018, 09:13:21 AM
Sebastian Kurz, the Austrian chancellor has, em, KING-sized years. Maybe he'll turn Austria into a monarchy.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Deeman on October 15, 2018, 10:06:14 AM
Didn't think he had that much hair!

Another significant British anniversary??? Anybody intending to purchase should consider putting their money in a charity box instead.
 
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on October 15, 2018, 09:20:54 PM
The Prince is looking sombre as always. Will be interesting to see who designed it. They'd better do a coloured version, or Alan71 won't buy it.  ;D
It’s a £5 coin and it’s Prince Charles.  Two good reasons not to buy it!  If it was a 50p or £2 then possibly but I’ve no interest in £5 coins whatsoever.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 15, 2018, 09:40:43 PM
It’s a £5 coin and it’s Prince Charles.  Two good reasons not to buy it!  If it was a 50p or £2 then possibly but I’ve no interest in £5 coins whatsoever.

You thought coloured coins were rubbish until you didn't. You are consistent only in your inconsistency. Watch this space!  :D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on October 15, 2018, 11:28:48 PM
You thought coloured coins were rubbish until you didn't. You are consistent only in your inconsistency. Watch this space!  :D
I still think coloured and photographic coins are rubbish.  Owning some doesn’t change my opinion.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 15, 2018, 11:34:59 PM
I still think coloured and photographic coins are rubbish.  Owning some doesn’t change my opinion.

You deserve the 2018 Nobel Prize for Surrealism.  ;D
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Figleaf on October 16, 2018, 07:37:20 PM
@ <k>, do you mean to say you never owned coins you didn't like? It is different for Alan71, one of whose motivations for collecting is investment. If it is his belief that an awful coin will appreciate, he should buy it, preferably in bulk. Even for those who collect money only, ugly coins are just as needed as nice ones. More so, for them, an ugly, practical coin is to be preferred over a nice, impractical one. :) That leads me to confess I have a whole series of coloured coins, inevitably Canadian quarters. From my point of view, they are pretty impractical, but they were part of a larger deal. Murphy's law.

Peter
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on October 16, 2018, 08:37:05 PM
If I didn't like a coin, I didn't buy it. Sometimes I came to dislike some later, usually trivial collector coins, and then I got rid of them. If somebody gave me a coin and I didn't like it, I threw it away. I did that as a child with a coin featuring a tughra, because as a 8 or 9 year old, I thought of it as a "scary watering can" and very ugly to boot.  :D

Collectors are free to indulge their own idiosyncratic habits, of course, and I am likewise at liberty to regard those same habits as highly amusing, just as you do Prince Charles' ears. ;)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 03, 2018, 07:50:52 PM
Available to buy from 12 am Monday November 5, on the Royal Mint's website and later that day also at the crown post offices:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/43883472510_70d966e0cb_o.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1962/31828944328_61826854bb_o.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on November 03, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
Excellent thanks for this! Do you mean from 12 am Sunday 4th?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 03, 2018, 08:27:10 PM
Excellent thanks for this! Do you mean from 12 am Sunday 4th?

Oops, sorry. I have now corrected the mistake. I meant it is available from 00:01 on Monday 5th. The coin will later that same day also be available at the crown post offices.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on November 03, 2018, 08:30:18 PM
Ok I thought that was the case! I'll make sure I'm on there at midnight to order mine! Do you know how many they'll mint? And are they £60! Cheers.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 03, 2018, 08:45:31 PM
Ok I thought that was the case! I'll make sure I'm on there at midnight to order mine! Do you know how many they'll mint? And are they £60! Cheers.

The Royal Mint will produce a total of 20,000 silver proof Snowman 50p coins. 15,000 of them will be released in the perspex block that can be seen in the images that I posted. I do not know in which packaging the other 5,000 Proof coins will be issued. I attach a copy of the certificate of authenticity of the silver proof coin in perspex block to this message:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/45651255672_e57cddd97d_o.jpg)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Col1n666 on November 03, 2018, 08:57:56 PM
Thanks for the info Eurocoin. Low mintage! Nice.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 03, 2018, 09:01:49 PM
Low mintage! Nice.

Yes it will be very popular. I expect a lot of problems with the mint's website. I just asked my contact who informed me that the silver proof coins in perspex block will be available for 60 pounds.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 03, 2018, 10:09:14 PM
In addition to that I am now being told that the other 5,000 silver proof Snowman 50p coins will be issued in a black box for 85 pounds each. I don't know where and when the coins in the black boxes will be available.

So 20,000 silver proofs in total, 15,000 in perspex block and 5,000 in black box.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 05, 2018, 07:35:35 AM
The Snowman 50p coin will not be released into general circulation.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Deeman on November 05, 2018, 02:21:56 PM
Interesting that the Royal Mint has stated that The Snowman coin will not go into circulation. Is this a marketing ploy to stimulate increased interest?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on November 05, 2018, 02:35:45 PM
For months now I have never received any commemorative coin in circulation. I used to receive such coins in abundance, now I only see the standard designs. What has happened? Has anybody else experienced the same thing?
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: andyg on November 05, 2018, 06:11:06 PM
Likewise no alphabet 10p's to be found in change.

Last years Potters designs are so common that I'm spending them now,
this years all four have been around since mid to end October but not in large quantities as yet.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Alan71 on November 05, 2018, 06:32:01 PM
Interesting that the Royal Mint has stated that The Snowman coin will not go into circulation. Is this a marketing ploy to stimulate increased interest?
The reason Change Checker is giving is:

“...unfortunately due to the seasonal nature of the coin and insufficient demand from banks and cash centres, The Royal Mint have confirmed that the Snowman 50p will not enter circulation.”

I’m actually glad that some of these commemoratives aren’t entering circulation.  At least then it’s a level playing field.  Had they issued them, they’d be snapped up and all over eBay in no time.  I can get my no-frills card with the (non-coloured) coin from Westminster/Change Checker and be done with it.

I see some of last year’s Beatrix Potter coins now and again, all of which I’ve saved, but likewise I don’t see many commemoratives these days.  I don’t really expect to anymore.  As I say, I’m happy with my cards from Westminster.  Quite glad I don’t bother with Royal Mint packs with their over-the-top folders and inflated prices.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 07, 2018, 03:13:55 PM
For anyone who missed out of the silver proof Snowman. The Royal Mint has bought back 4,000 pieces from luxury brand John Lewis. These pieces do not come in the same packaging though. The Mint only sells them on the phone for 85 pounds including postage.

Furthermore for people who are looking for the coin itsself, there will also still be a limited amount released in black boxes through the post offices. These will cost 85 pounds too.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 12, 2018, 03:14:25 PM
From November 19, the Nutcracker 5 pounds coin will be the Strike Your Own coin at the Royal Mint Experience.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on November 14, 2018, 01:35:34 PM
There have been found several misprints of the Silver proof Snowman 50p coin where the print is rotated and so does not lay on top of the minted relief. This also causes a different allignment to the obverse.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on December 26, 2018, 10:11:02 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4657/39367390175_2646f80839_b.jpg)


With the end of 2018 nearing it is interesting to note that the 250th anniversary of the Royal Academy of Arts 5 Pounds coin was never available from The Royal Mint. Only the Westminster Collection has issued the coin.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 15, 2019, 12:49:46 PM
People have started faking the Royal Wedding Strike Your Own pack. They use real coins, put them in a similar capsule and in a similar pouch with a fake certificate of authenticity.

The Royal Mint is considering to introduce a special mintmark on the SYO coins.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on February 18, 2019, 06:18:18 PM
Watch out who you share details with about your collection. Some crazy people on this planet.  :o Man was murdered over limited edition Beatrix Potter 50ps (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/17440689.gordon-mcghee-murder-jury-hears-death-over-beatrix-potter-50ps/?fbclid=IwAR1FniQ8crVjn-mrGtDTdJeD384OW97tBF_c0NDir_TlpJJyK5cvcJYJTY8)
Title: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on March 09, 2019, 07:24:54 AM
Watch out who you share details with about your collection. Some crazy people on this planet.  :o Man was murdered over limited edition Beatrix Potter 50ps (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/17440689.gordon-mcghee-murder-jury-hears-death-over-beatrix-potter-50ps/?fbclid=IwAR1FniQ8crVjn-mrGtDTdJeD384OW97tBF_c0NDir_TlpJJyK5cvcJYJTY8)

The verdict is out (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8595747/coin-collector-murdered-fellow-enthusiast-beatrix-potter-50p/).

This is the craziest thing I have heard/read about coin collectors! :o

Aditya
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on March 26, 2019, 08:50:27 PM
The verdict is out (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8595747/coin-collector-murdered-fellow-enthusiast-beatrix-potter-50p/).

This is the craziest thing I have heard/read about coin collectors! :o

Aditya

The sentence is now also known. He got life imprisonment, which means that he may rot in jail for at least the next 30 years. Dutch judges: watch and learn.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Big_M on March 27, 2019, 12:43:44 PM
Re: sentencing.

Coin enthusiast who killed collector for rare 50ps is jailed for 30 years | (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6851289/Coin-enthusiast-killed-collector-rare-50ps-jailed-30-years.html)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on July 21, 2019, 06:30:01 PM
For people who still like to buy the 2018-dated RAF 2 pounds coins, there now is code RAF19 for a free Sea King coin with every order. If you also use free postage code RMRP35Y2 you can, for example obtain 2 of the RAF 2 pounds coins for a total of 10 pounds.


T&C may apply for other combinations.
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: <k> on August 19, 2019, 02:44:26 AM
I just found these "Behind the design" posts on the Royal Mint blog, which include some preliminary design sketches:

Behind the design: Representation of the People Act 1918 | The Royal Mint Blog (https://blog.royalmint.com/behind-the-design-representation-of-the-people-act-1918/)

Behind the design: 2018 RAF Badge £2 coin | The Royal Mint Blog (https://blog.royalmint.com/behind-the-design-2018-raf-badge-2-coin/)
Title: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: Bimat on August 25, 2019, 08:24:47 AM
The 5 pounds coin.

The design of the said cupro-nickel coin shall be as follows:

‘For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · FID · DEF · 5 POUNDS ·”, and for the reverse a depiction of Our initial accompanied by those of His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales, His Royal Highness The Duke of Cambridge and His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge, royally crowned, above an oak garland with the inscription “· FOUR GENERATIONS OF THE ROYAL FAMILY ·” and the date of the year.

BY THE QUEEN  | Proclamations | The Gazette (https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2929910)

How Prince William's baldness caused a crisis for Royal Mint chiefs who wanted to give him more hair for commemorative coin

By CHRIS HASTINGS ARTS CORRESPONDENT FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY

PUBLISHED: 00:20 BST, 25 August 2019 | UPDATED: 00:36 BST, 25 August 2019


His thinning locks have prompted many 'Royal heir' jokes, but Prince William's baldness caused a crisis for Royal Mint chiefs over the design of a commemorative coin, it can be revealed.

While William has won praise for embracing the Windsor family tradition for male pattern baldness by refusing to cover up his thinning thatch, officials at the Royal Mint wanted to give him 'more hair' on the coin to celebrate four generations of the Royals.

The Prince's hairloss makeover was the subject of discussion among members of the advisory committee on the Design of Coins, Medals and Decorations which oversees the production of commemorative coins on behalf of the Royal Mint.

The minutes for a meeting held at Buckingham Palace on June 20, 2017, state: 'It was suggested that in any revised design Prince William be given slightly more hair.'

The committee's decision is likely to come as a surprise to William. He has often joked about his thinning locks and, on a walkabout, once told a hairstylist: 'I don't have much hair. I can't give you much business.'

Six months after the committee met he went one step further and famously appeared in public sporting a closely cropped style.

The committee's minutes were obtained by this newspaper under freedom of information laws and show that its members are particularly sensitive when it comes to designs involving the Royal Family.

In 2016, the committee was preoccupied with plans for a coin to commemorate the Prince of Wales's 70th birthday last year. In a September meeting, members complained that one design left Charles looking like US President Lyndon Johnson. It had 'a few too many lines on the forehead' and 'jowls that were on the heavy side', they said.

By the time the design was discussed again in December, members had agreed to 'remove/soften the detail of the jowl'.

The wording on Royal coins has also caused problems. In 2016, designs for a coin to celebrate the Queen and Prince Philip's upcoming platinum wedding anniversary had to be changed when members decided the inscription 'married life has joined them in happiness' might be preferable to 'married love has joined them in happiness' because the latter 'called to mind a book by Marie Stopes', a reference to the family planning campaigner.

The committee also appears to be wary of designs which embrace popular culture. One complained that a coin to commemorate the D-Day landings 'had a rather unfortunate association with the opening of Dad's Army'.

Source: Daily Mail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7391491/How-Prince-Williams-baldness-caused-crisis-Royal-Mint-chiefs.html)
Title: Re: UK Commemorative themes for 2018
Post by: eurocoin on August 25, 2019, 10:23:14 AM
The clickbait title is crap of course. The comments made by the members of the Royal Mint Advisory Committee say something about the designs that were shown to them rather than about these royal people themselves, although the article tries to make it look the contrary. As for the inscription mentioned in the second last paragraph of the article, the mint eventually chose "Wedded love has joined them in happiness" so the remark of one of the members about the book of Mary Stopes was ignored.