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Design and designing => Coin characteristics => Topic started by: Galapagos on September 01, 2009, 02:29:32 PM

Title: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Galapagos on September 01, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
As a coin collector, I like to see both text and image on a coin, otherwise for me it isn't a coin. However, as a thematic collector, I tend to focus on the image, but there are times when the style of the text, or the font, is at least as noteworthy as the the image. On rare occasions the design consists of text only and no image.


In 2005, the Royal Mint (UK) issued a 50p to commemorate the 250th anniversary of Samuel Johnson's "A Dictionary of the English Language". At first I was annoyed when I read that the design would be all text, but when I saw it, I fell in love with it. The designer, Tom Phillips, has used the various fonts to good effect, and obviously put a lot of thought into the design.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Galapagos on September 01, 2009, 02:34:01 PM
Gothic script has been used to good effect on the coins of Danzig, as shown on this 1 Gulden coin of 1932.

And famously we see it on the aptly named "Gothic Florin" of Victoria. She is depicted in a style that matches the font perfectly. It has often been said that Britain's monarchs are more German than English - perhaps this classic coin was making that point.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 01, 2009, 06:13:25 PM
Ah, but the fonts used in the first post are quite different from those in the second one. :)  When I got that Johnson Dictionary coin (like it too), I thought of the text as a partial "photo" of a dictionary entry. (Theoretically the designer could have used ultra-tiny font sizes and shown dozens on such entries, and the idea behind the design would still have been "met".) The other two use the Gothic and Fraktur fonts for the country or ruler name, thus it's text rather than an image ...

Fraktur was hardly ever used on German Empire coins. After all it is very hard to read in all caps, and the alternative (mix of uppercase and lowercase, thus different heights of characters) does not look very balanced. Just look at the nazi coinage. The Gothic script on that florin is different; works a little better with coins.

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 01, 2009, 06:31:29 PM
The Federal Republic of Germany has never used "Fraktur" on coins. Again I should say for informative text on coins - sometimes it is used as a background illustration. As on this collector coin from 1983:

(http://www.honscha.de/bilder/sonstige/8269g.jpg)

Of course the GDR also issued a Luther coin (actually more than one) in that year. Three of them, which show important places in Luther's life, have Fraktur text:

(http://www.ddr-muenzen.de/bilder/5-mark/schlosskirche-wittenberg.jpg) (http://www.ddr-muenzen.de/bilder/5-mark/wartburg.jpg) (http://www.ddr-muenzen.de/bilder/5-mark/luther-geburtshaus.jpg)

(Larger image of the last one, obverse) http://picture.yatego.com/images/499ad797022f18.5/a7860.jpg

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on September 01, 2009, 08:34:52 PM
You have to be careful with terminology, too - to a typesetter, "Gothic" is actually quite a plain form of font, and what we commonly call "Gothic" is known as "Black Letter".  "Fraktur" is the German form of Black Letter, and there are a number of minor differences between the two, as close comparison of individual letters on the Danzig Gulden and Luther commems on the one hand and the Victorian florin on the other should show.

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Galapagos on September 02, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23641.0;attach=77765;image)

Indonesia, 50 rupiah, 1999.



Moving away from Gothic and Fraktur, I've always admired the interplay of text and image on the modern Indonesian coins. They're very confident and stylish in their use of different sizes of font, and in the way they overlay images with text or numerals. I also like the fonts used for the "Rp" abbreviation. For me, it is the marriage of the text and picture that gives Indonesian coins their distinctive style. Look how boldly the denomination dominates the 50 rupiah above, taking up more than half the space, and yet it still looks good.

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Prosit on September 03, 2009, 12:01:54 AM
It is a 0.900 fine Silver token
It says Prosit Neujahr  (Happy New Year)
Looks German, but pretty confident it is Austrian.

Dale
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 03, 2009, 12:29:00 AM
Two from Germany that, on the issue specific side, are "text only" - a 10 mark coin commemorating 50 years of the Federal Republic, and a 10 euro coin commemorating the 2004 enlargement of the European Union. Images from Ritter.

(http://www.muenzauktion.com/ritter/pic/j471.jpg)

(http://www.muenzauktion.com/ritter/pic/12165.jpg)

So on the first piece we have a sans serif font, and the middle part of the text is a spiral. The other has a font with serifs, and several concentric circles.

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Galapagos on September 03, 2009, 12:36:02 AM
Those do nothing for me, I'm afraid, Christian. Here's a UK one that's almost as bad...

P.S. This is from "our" Tony Clayton's site.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on September 03, 2009, 01:50:42 AM
Those do nothing for me, I'm afraid, Christian. Here's a UK one that's almost as bad...

P.S. This is from "our" Tony Clayton's site.

I do like the calligraphy on this one, though the outline effigy of HM doesn't quite look right to me.

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 03, 2009, 10:48:35 AM
Those do nothing for me, I'm afraid, Christian.

Fine with me. :)  I just wanted to show two coins from around here which (apart from the mandatory eagle) have text only. Whether the designs are magnificent, ho-hum or lousy is a different matter ... The royal effigy reminds me of this (later) Dutch commem by the way:
(http://nl.knmnumismatiek.nl/domains/numismatiek/content/images/Johan/koninkrijk/110070.2004.02.vz.jpg)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Galapagos on September 04, 2009, 03:53:44 AM
As an Englishman, I feel at home with the so called Roman alphabet when I see it on coins - less so with the Cyrillic and Greek alphabets. However, there are other scripts and alphabets that I do not understand, but sometimes I find they look beautiful despite this. It's a purely aesthetic experience, as I can't read the meaning that the text is conveying. Here is a Chinese coin that has that effect on me. The positioning of the text happens to be just right.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 01:24:59 PM
On this Swedish 1 öre coin of 1958, the text has been presented in an unusual way. The text sits within a series of incuse boxes, so that the engraving combines with the positioning to produce an unusual and original result.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 01:40:06 PM
The predecimal coins of Ireland used Gaelic descriptions for their denominations, and they were presented in an unusual font.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10743.0;attach=72205;image)

 

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 01:53:13 PM
The coins of Yugoslavia are an interesting case, since that country was "biscriptual", meaning its peoples wrote in two different alphabets: the Latin (Roman) alphabet and the Cyrillic alphabet.

Here are three coins of Yugoslavia, all from 1938.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9222.0;attach=72399;image)

10 dinar, 1938.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9222.0;attach=72400;image)

20 dinar, 1938.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9222.0;attach=72401;image)

50 dinar, 1938.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9222.0;attach=72402;image)

The font on this Yugoslav 1938 one dinar coin is also interesting.

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 14, 2011, 02:05:55 PM
The coins of the Irish Free State use Gaelic descriptions for their denominations, and they are presented in an unusual font.

Even today, the coins from Ireland - circulation, commemorative and collector coins - all have the country name in that font. (The only exception is the Ivan Meštrović piece issued in 2007, but that was a joint Croatian-Irish issue.) The €2 commem that came out in 2007 (50 Years Treaty of Rome) even has some more text in Irish, along with the common design:
(http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/images/image8511.gif)
Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
When I say "text on coins", I shall include numerals too, because I am making a distinction between the pictorial and non-pictorial elements of the design.

The English numismatic designer Percy Metcalfe (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9021.0.html) was famous for the distinctive art deco style that he brought to his designs. He even extended this to the numerals he used. Here is an example on the Bulgarian 100 leva coin of 1934. The numeral 9 in the year 1934 appears particularly angular and stylised.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9021.0;attach=12277;image)



Here is the reverse of an Iraqi 4 fils coin, dated 1938. On the left-hand side, Metcalfe shows the numerals of the Western calendar year in Arabic style, while on the right-hand side he shows the local cultural version, again in Arabic style, but both are highly stylised, and I have not seen anything similar on the coins of other countries that use Arabic script.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8979.0;attach=12085;image)


Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:09:59 PM
The numeral 5, as used on this Turkish 5 kurus of 1942, is also highly stylised, and reminiscent of some of Percy Metcalfe's numerals, though I do not know who designed this coin.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11026.0;attach=15941;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:19:11 PM
The fonts chosen for denominations can be quite varied. They are also often very noticeable, since the numerals of a denomination of a coin often dominate the design in a way that alphabetic text rarely does.



1] The 50 on the Belgian coin is rather unusual.



2] The numerals on this Dutch coin are rather fancy.



3] The rather plain but elongated numerals on this coin from Luxembourg still make a statement.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:23:26 PM
An arty looking font is used for the text and numerals on this Spanish commemorative coin.

(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img9/164-962.jpg)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
An innovative "50" on a 90-year-old Romanian coin.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2677.0;attach=15791;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
Whenever I look at this coin, I think that the zero doesn't go with the five in the "50" denomination.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:33:23 PM
The numerals on some coins are outlined, but the outlines on this Maltese 50 cents are carefully filled in with horizontal lines. Such elaborately designed numerals are less common these days, I find, but I always enjoy looking at them.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9100.0;attach=12318;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:41:47 PM
A fancy 5 on a Danish coin of 1874.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9238.0;attach=14349;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:51:19 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=78764;image)

A particularly unusual 50 on this Gambian coin.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9918.0;attach=33652;image)



By his style shall you know him. This Swaziland coin and the Gambian one were both designed by Michael Rizzello (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9511.0.html).

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9511.0;attach=13164;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 02:58:21 PM
The legend overlays the denominational numeral on this coin, but it is large enough and distinctive enough to shine through.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10999.0;attach=15776;image)

Ceylon became Sri Lanka, and here the same trick is used again.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 03:09:40 PM
Here are two coins from the Isle of Man. The coin on the left is dated 1992; the coin on the right is dated 1993. Notice how the numerals straddle the countersunk area on the second coin.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=89649;image)

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 03:12:06 PM
On these coins of Papua New Guinea, the crocodile's tail obscures part of the denomination (one kina).

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4127.0;attach=4493;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Bimat on August 14, 2011, 03:14:28 PM
India.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2685.0;attach=2545;image)

The font used for Devanagari is different than what we usually use for our coins. 8)

Aditya
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 03:18:43 PM
The numerals on Algeria's modern coins are like no others.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 03:24:22 PM
On this Cayman Islands 10 cents, the pictorial design is allowed to fill the whole field, while the denomination simply overlays the design, and the ripples of the water are seen through the numeral zero.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2194.0;attach=11735;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 03:28:19 PM
Here the numeral hides right at the edge of the rim of the coin. Mind you, those horns do look pretty threatening.  :o

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10413.0;attach=14730;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 04:17:38 PM
I like the simple but effective way of showcasing the denomination that is used on this Soviet 15 kopeck coin.

You can see clearly how the numerals of the date have been squashed up, in order to fit into the exergue.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 04:23:19 PM
The wartime state of Slovakia, a Nazi puppet state, declared its "independence" on the 14th March, 1939. This coin celebrating its fifth anniversary uses a curious mixture of modern and Roman numerals: the "III" represents March.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9141.0;attach=12430;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 04:33:15 PM
On the ball: a UK £2 to commemorate England's hosting of the European Championships in 1996.

(http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pics/dec/200/2pd96r.jpg)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 04:44:37 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20133.0;attach=77336;image)

Gimme five!  The base of the monument is a convenient place for the denomination on this Liberian coin.

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
When I first saw these coins of Pakistan, I hadn't learnt that the upside-down heart shape was a numeral, so I thought it was simply a design painted on the sail of the boat.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3314.0;attach=3247;image)



When I saw the version with European numerals, all became clear.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3314.0;attach=3386;image)

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
We are so used to being coins being circular, that even when a coin is square (or squarish), the design and the legend are often arranged as though the coin were circular.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42577.0;attach=82278;image)

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42577.0;attach=82279;image)

Here is an example, on a 1941 one cent coin from Malaya, where the orientation of the legends on the obverse and reverse are in conflict.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=82175;image)

Swaziland, 2 cents.

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 05:30:09 PM
Here is a triangular two dollars from the Cook Islands, where the orientation of the legend follows the shape of the coin. I have tried to find a seven-sided coin where the same applies, but without success - the legend is always placed as though on a circular coin.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 05:33:42 PM
Here is a coin whose denomination is reflected in the design. How many bees do you see? Very post-modern, eh?  ;)

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9562.0;attach=12004;image)

For more in that vein, see this topic: 50 fish on 50 cents: Denomination reflected in design (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9562.0.html)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 14, 2011, 06:55:14 PM
The rather plain but elongated numerals on this coin from Luxembourg still make a statement.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11037.0;attach=15900;image)

What I find about these two is the two different "sevens" in the years. If you write the "1" as a simple vertical line (see the 1977 coin), it does not make much sense to use the middle horizontal line in the "7" - the two digits look quite different anyway. But if the "1" starts with that small diagonal line (see the 1987 coin), it may be useful to have a "7" with that extra line. Except that on the second coin they did not do that, but used a sort-of-serif on the left ...

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 14, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
The numerals on some coins are outlined, but the outlines on this Maltese 50 cents are carefully filled in with horizontal lines. Such elaborately designed numerals are less common these days, I find, but I always enjoy looking at them.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9100.0;attach=12318;image)

Russia does something similar with its 10 ruble coins. On the older, bimetallic type the digits have line patterns:
(http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/coins/Coins_97/97_10R_A.gif)

The new 10 ruble pieces still "play" with lines, but rather in the background:
(http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/coins/Coins_97/97_10R_R_2009.gif)

However, the "0" still has a latent image, see here:
http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/coins/Coins_97/97_10R_p1_2009.gif
http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/coins/Coins_97/97_10R_p2_2009.gif

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 07:52:54 PM
The font used on the French overseas territories of New Caledonia and French Polynesia is/was also unusual.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34570.0;attach=88633;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4018.0;attach=50242;image)

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on August 14, 2011, 10:04:06 PM
Isn't the unusual font just "Irish Gaelic"?

The coins of the Irish Free State use Gaelic descriptions for their denominations, and they are presented in an unusual font.

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on August 14, 2011, 10:08:29 PM
This could, at a stretch, be an example of heraldic shading, horizontal lines representing blue - see the chart in Craig's Coins of the World 1750-1850 (mine's the 1976 edition).

The numerals on some coins are outlined, but the outlines on this Maltese 50 cents are carefully filled in with horizontal lines. Such elaborately designed numerals are less common these days, I find, but I always enjoy looking at them.


Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 14, 2011, 10:09:32 PM
Isn't the unusual font just "Irish Gaelic"?


Never having studied it, I couldn't possibly say. But what's unusual on my side of the Irish sea may of course not be on the other.  :)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 15, 2011, 02:07:10 PM
I like the font used for "PESETA" on this coin. The stylish curving of the letters really adds to quality of the design.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11056.0;attach=15908;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 15, 2011, 07:23:26 PM
Here is an example of the Veld Pond: the field pound, minted by the Boers in a home-made mint during the Boer War, hence the rudimentary design.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 16, 2011, 02:00:36 AM
The Hungarians do some rather weird things with their numerals. Surely they will never be allowed to join the euro.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21973.0;attach=91697;image)

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21973.0;attach=91696;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 16, 2011, 01:33:42 PM
The Hungarians do some rather weird things with their numerals. Surely they will never be allowed to join the euro.

As for the former, that style looks interesting on the three lower pieces you show us. On the 10 forint piece (see below) it looks a little strange. And as for that eurobsession of yours ... neither Euroland nor Hungary cares. ;D

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 16, 2011, 01:37:15 PM
As for the former, that style looks interesting on the three lower pieces you show us. On the 10 forint piece (see below) it looks a little strange.

Why it should look strange on the 10 forint but interesting on the 100 forint, I don't know, since the same numerals are involved.  ::)

And as for that eurobsession of yours ... neither Euroland nor Hungary cares. ;D

It's not an obsession - I haven't discussed it long since (despite all the current turmoil) but was merely being a surrealist.  8)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 16, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
On the 50 and especially the 100 forint coin (and the 200 as well, see the image from the central bank), the digits take quite a bit of space. The "10" however looks as if it had been squished. :) The 20 is sort of in between ...

(http://english.mnb.hu/Root/Gallery/Pics/MNB/Bankjegy_es_erme/mnbhu_ermek/mnbhu_200forint/200_elo.jpg)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 16, 2011, 02:16:32 PM
Yes, the "10" and "20" should have been centred instead of left-justified.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 18, 2011, 03:02:30 AM
Denmark, 1995, 20 kroner.  1000 years of the krone.

I imagine this font is meant to look pseudo-runic. Not a great idea, but then Denmark is very good at poor design.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 18, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
German East Africa, 10 heller 1908.  Just look at these fancy "L"s in "HELLER": proof that the Kaiser was a megalomaniac beast who wanted to conquer the whole world.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 19, 2011, 12:24:17 AM
Oh c'mon. You know what those fancy "L"s on coins from East Africa represent ...

 ;D Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 19, 2011, 02:47:33 PM
Interesting indeed. Maybe that was inspired by the dot matrix boards used during football (and other) games, to display the current score and all kinds of other info ...

Another "novelty" use of text and characters (although the font itself is nothing special) is the microprint on this year's €2 commem from Luxembourg. See this topic: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8289.msg58909.html#msg58909 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8289.msg58909.html#msg58909)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 19, 2011, 10:26:30 PM
Unusual to see Gothic lettering on a Portuguese coin.  20 escudos, 1960.

(http://www.coinfactswiki.com/w/images/3/31/Portugal_1960_20_escudos_obv_DSLR.jpg)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 19, 2011, 10:50:15 PM
Portugal 2½ Escudos, 1937.  Look at the way the denomination numerals follow the curve of the coin, and the way the dollar/escudo sign has been stylised - not entirely successfully.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 20, 2011, 12:10:52 AM
San Marino, 10 centesimi, 1936. The interesting thing about this coin is the way in which the design has been subordinated to the text. We have four horizontal lines, with the final one being a supine fasces - not how the Fascist party symbol was normally represented.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 20, 2011, 10:32:06 PM
From 1942 until 1969, the denominations of the Portuguese 10 and 20 centavos were given in Roman numerals. I can't think of any other country that retained this practice so late into the 20th century. However, the other denominations on the Portuguese coins were shown in the normal way.

There is an analogy with the UK, whose coins still show the Queen's titles in abbreviated Latin, despite the fact that English is one of the world's best known languages. My guess is that the majority of Britons do not know what those abbreviations stand for.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 20, 2011, 10:45:56 PM
This Austrian 2 Groschen was issued during Hitler's lifetime - long after he'd left Austria but before he'd become Fuehrer. I imagine he would have had a fit of rage if he'd ever seen it and would probably have considered that figure 2 to be thoroughly degenerate. Perhaps that's what spurred him to conquer his own homeland and annex it to Germany, thereby putting paid to this troublesome coin.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23909.0;attach=49574;image)

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 21, 2011, 01:08:09 AM
Have a look at these coin designs from the Azores. They are an utter disgrace. The denominations' numerals are made out of bits of flowers. If I'd been the designer's manager, I'd have called him into the office and asked him straight out if he was doing drugs. But look at the dates on these coins - this was years before hippies, flower power and hallucinogenic drugs. (I suppose they still had magic mushrooms, though). These coins were meant to be used by poor, upright, simple-minded peasants from the Azores - they didn't want something that looked like a scene from Salvador Dali's dream sequence in "Spellbound", for goodness' sake.  ::)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 21, 2011, 11:15:03 AM
As for the Austrian 2 groschen coin, it is quite revealing that your image covers the "S" of the word "Österreich". :) I am sure some people would find that style fascinating. This is the predecessor by the way, a 200 kronen coin from 1924:

(http://www.muenzauktion.com/kaufmann/pic/200_kronen_1924_oest_vz.jpg)
(Image: Kaufmann/muenzauktion)

Initially this kind of cross (Kruckenkreuz (http://austria-lexikon.at/af/Wissenssammlungen/Symbole/Kruckenkreuz)) was used for an order of merit in the young republic. Then the Austrofascists adopted the symbol and used it as an emblem of their authoritarian regime. Hitler apparently loved the design so much ;) that the piece continued to be legal tender until 1942.

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 21, 2011, 12:36:28 PM
For some reason the Kruckenkreuz always reminds me of the cross so often used by Portugal and Brazil. That cross is seen below and is known as the Order of Christ cross.

Though the name Austrofascism has stuck, the regime of Dollfuss is considered these days to have been authoritarian-conservative, not totalitarian, with some "parafascist" elements, meaning that it copied some of the superficial elements of fascism, such as a projection of a strong leader, showy parades and uniforms, and youth movements.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 22, 2011, 12:01:41 AM
Belgium, 1958, 50 francs.  Collector coin.  Do you like the effect? It reads, "Baudouin, roi des Belges".  ("Baudouin, king of the Belgians").
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 23, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
In 1969 I went on a school trip to the Netherlands. I was 11. That was the first time I saw their one cent coin. The British and the Continental Europeans disagree fundamentally on how to write the numerals 1 and 7, so I thought at first that the unfeasibly long and thin character that dominates the reverse was a letter J. It is not. Still it stands out for me as the most unusual way ever to represent a figure 1 on a coin.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 23, 2011, 11:57:36 PM
The British and the Continental Europeans disagree fundamentally on how to write the numerals 1 and 7

Hmm, on coins you will usually see "printed" digits, and I don't think there is any difference or diagreement. (This long "1" on the 1 ct coin is just a little more stylish than others. :) ) Also see this http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,4001.msg74663.html#msg74663 earlier reply. When it comes to hand-written digits, yes, there are differences. But that is not a British vs European thing in my opinion - for example, the German way of (hand-)writing a 1 will usually be different from how Dutch and Americans tend wo write it ...

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 24, 2011, 12:35:27 AM
I have never before or since seen a "1" with a curved and pointed tip like that, on coins or on the printed page, and certainly not in England.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Coinsforever on August 24, 2011, 12:40:57 AM
Here is an image of coin with two fonts in the date.

George VI, Silver ½ Rupee, 1945, Large '5', Bombay Mint .

The coin is in scrace category &  had fetch high premium during recent auction.

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 24, 2011, 12:48:30 AM
I have never before or since seen a "1" with a curved and pointed tip like that, on coins or on the printed page, and certainly not in England.

Two different issues. Yes, I agree that this particular "1" is different at its bottom from what you usually see on coins (regardless of where they are from). But you wrote about a fundamental disagreement - Britain vs Europe or the Continent - which I don't see.

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 24, 2011, 12:51:03 AM
George VI, Silver ½ Rupee, 1945, Large '5', Bombay Mint .

So does that mean there is a small '5' too?

It's interesting that the legends on the Indian coin are all in English. The legends on GVI's British coins were largely in Latin, or Latin abbreviations. Even his name was given in Latin: 'GEORGIVS VI'. The same applies to our current coins, apart from the fact that there is no Latin version of 'Elizabeth'. Most Britons do not know what the Latin abbreviations stand for anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 24, 2011, 12:54:27 AM
But you wrote about a fundamental disagreement - Britain vs Europe or the Continent - which I don't see.

Christian

We're having one now. (And then there's the euro...)  ;D  No, it's only the handwriting that is different: Continentals often write a 7 with a horizontal stroke through the middle, and the English usually write a 1 as a simple vertical line, whereas the Continentals mostly add the top diagonal stroke but not the bottom horizontal one.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Coinsforever on August 24, 2011, 12:56:09 AM
So does that mean there is a small '5' too?


The common coins of this category dated 1945  has same size of all the fonts 1945 , thats include number 5 also.

Due to large 5 the coin become scrace & highly valued , later will check & post the KM reference if mentioned in it.

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 24, 2011, 12:59:46 AM
Yeah, but as I wrote, this is not a "Britain vs Continent" thing. The Dutch are much more likely to write the "1" and "7" the British-American way. The Germans tend to add that small diagonal line to the "1" even in handwritten digits, and their "7" often has a horizontal middle line ...

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 24, 2011, 01:13:29 AM
I think the one is in calligraphed style, not meant as a numeral for printing. Start holding the nib on the side for the slanted line, then go down with some force on the pen holder to open the nib at the split, end by lifting the pen gradually from the paper while making a slight leftward movement. Prof. Oswald Wenkebach, who designed this coin, was known for his natural, figurative style. The numeral fits that style.

Peter
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 24, 2011, 01:17:55 AM
Handwriting-style lettering does not often occur on coins.

Peter

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7241.0;attach=10017;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 24, 2011, 01:27:00 AM
Once in a while it does look interesting. But I guess there is a reason why most coins have uppercase "block" letters - same base line, same "top line", same height. That was also one of the reasons why in the 1930s some German coin designers refused to work with Fraktur ...

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 24, 2011, 03:19:26 AM
Here is a British 1938 sixpence of King George VI. Look at the three characters between the date. GR is clear enough: it stands for Georgius Rex. But what is the third character supposed to represent? It has never made any sense to me.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on August 24, 2011, 04:29:10 AM
Here is a British 1938 sixpence of King George VI. Look at the three characters between the date. GR is clear enough: it stands for Georgius Rex. But what is the third character supposed to represent? It has never made any sense to me.

I for Imperator.

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 24, 2011, 12:06:14 PM
I for Imperator.

So they stuck a stroke through it, and gave it a hook at the bottom, just to make it look like a "J" and confuse me.  >:(

Note also the initials "K G".  As a child I thought they stood for "King George", but they are in fact the initials of the designer George Kruger-Gray (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8847.0.html).
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 24, 2011, 12:22:13 PM
So they stuck a stroke through it, and gave it a hook at the bottom, just to make it look like a "J" and confuse me.  >:(

When I first saw one of those, I thought the monogram was "SRJ". And for some reason, neither Google nor Wikipedia were around to help me ... On the later (royal but not imperial) 6d pieces, with the G and the R and the small VI in the middle, it was much more obvious.

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 24, 2011, 06:50:15 PM
Unofficial coins have more scope to be innovative or unorthodox in their approach. Here is a 2 pesetas coin of 1937 from Asturias y Leon, which was controlled by the Republicans at this point in the Civil War. I like the panoramic effect given to "PESETAS" in the legend, but it is somewhat spoilt by the fact that the surrounding numerals are not shown from the same perspective.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Destrans on August 25, 2011, 06:23:34 PM
Hello  ;D

Another portuguese coin with Cubist style type.
Enjoy!

(http://web.archive.org/web/20110525040524/http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5082/43133352.jpg)

100 Escudos Fernando Pessoa

(http://web.archive.org/web/20150410113147/http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4135/imagem7gz7.jpg)

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 25, 2011, 09:21:47 PM
I once past the gates of the ministry of the economy in Seoul while a group of farmers was demonstrating just outside. My "guide", a nice youngster, apologized fo the demonstration. I tried to explain my happiness that Koreans could demonstrate without risking their lives...

I have that same feeling in Portugal. Since it got rid of its dictatorship, it is experimenting with forms, politics, colours, communication, architecture, mores, anything that was sacred under the dictators. The experiments are making Portugal a smiling, vibrant, colourful country again. The coins reflect it. Like elsewhere, not all the experiments are a success, but their very existence is wonderful.

Peter
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 25, 2011, 10:43:19 PM
Actually a similar font was used for the €10 coin issued to commemorate the Athens 2004 Olympics:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_j1iFxQnCmd4/S-qr2oSiQWI/AAAAAAAAAkE/6KnYea2ALEk/s1600/2004-jogos+olimpicos.jpg

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 29, 2011, 12:01:48 PM
Here is a 1 koruna coin from the Nazi protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. The name of the state is in boring upper-case.



The 50 haleru coin shows the name of the state in an attractive lower-case font.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 29, 2011, 12:04:08 PM
An unusual "25" on the Czechoslovak 25 haleru of the 1920s and 1930s. Not entirely successful, I think, and no other denominations were given the same treatment.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 29, 2011, 04:47:03 PM
The 50 haleru coin shows the name of the state in an attractive lower-case font.

Not attractive. >:D That is just what you get when you have to use "Fraktur" fonts on coins. Such an inscription looks bad (well, unbalanced) enough if it goes along the rim of a coin.*  Fraktur in all caps would be even worse, and has hardly ever been used ...

(* On an imaginary horizontal line it can look good, see the first post here: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,7404.0.html (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,7404.0.html))

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: kumarrahul on August 29, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
I received this coin yesterday in a trade.. and was really pleased with the child-like simplicity and beauty of this coin.. It is quite unlike the regular French Republic coins featuring the 'sower'.. and i'd never realized that I'd never seen a coin with cursive handwriting earlier.. quite happy with this acquisition!
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 29, 2011, 06:12:35 PM
Have a look at this topic about the designer of your coin: Raymond Charles Joly-Clare (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,7241.0.html)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 29, 2011, 07:57:27 PM
China, Kiaochow, 10 cents, 1909. I find the font on this one quite attractive.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on August 29, 2011, 10:34:24 PM

Here is a 1 koruna coin from the Nazi protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. The name of the state is in boring upper-case.


Not totally boring - look at the position of the Umlauts on Böhmen and Mähren.


The 50 haleru coin shows the name of the state in an attractive lower-case font.

Only in German - the Czech version is still in caps :-)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: translateltd on August 29, 2011, 10:36:43 PM
China, Kiaochow, 10 cents, 1909. I find the font on this one quite attractive.

A few Art Nouveau touches to the lettering, but not over the top.  That "enveloping" C in Cent can be found on a few other coins, too.

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on August 29, 2011, 11:57:03 PM
Here is a most unusual 5 cents coin from Hawaii, dated 1881. No other denomination looks remotely like this one.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on September 09, 2011, 12:08:07 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26997.0;attach=16701;image)

Portugal, 2 euros, 2011. 500 years of the birth of Fernão Mendes Pinto.

I like the way in which the place names are suggestive of waves in the sea.

Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on December 31, 2011, 10:26:53 PM
Nice two-tone effect on the figure 10 here, on this bimetallic ten meticas coin of Mozambique, as it straddles the two metals.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22680.0;attach=90947;image)

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2012, 06:42:41 PM
On the bimetallic 5 rand coins, South Africa has SARB (South African Reserve Bank) running multiple times round the edge of the coin. Risky but impressive, as the effect works well.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 29, 2012, 01:42:57 AM
Panama, 1904, 50 centimos. Notice how the motto "Dios, Ley, Libertad" (God, Law, Liberty) follows the curve of the soldier's helmet.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on May 02, 2012, 08:12:49 PM
Spain, 1 peseta, 1982.

Here, the PTA (abbreviation for PESETA) is stacked to the right of the denominational numeral, whilst the coat of arms appears to its left. Both the coat of arms and abbreviation are a similar height, but somewhat shorter than the numeral in the middle, so that your attention is focused on the numeral. An interesting effect.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on May 02, 2012, 08:16:14 PM
Spain, 1 peseta, 1998.

In this example, the word PESETA is turned through 90 degrees and placed within the denominational numeral. An imaginative use of text. Not only that, the text only fills the right half of the field, whilst the king's portrait occupies the left hand side. An innovative and pleasing use of the field.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on May 02, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
Bahrain, 25 fils, 1992.  The Arabic script inside the box means "fils".

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26550.0;attach=43835;image)

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on May 03, 2012, 08:03:59 PM
Netherlands, 2½ guilder, 1979.  The reverse of this coin carries no picture. Apart from the beads at the edge and a couple of mintmarks, it contains only text. Have you ever seen another design that is so packed with text?
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on May 03, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
Have you ever seen another design that is so packed with text?

Weeeelll ...
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,4001.msg23453.html#msg23453

(http://www.muenzauktion.com/ritter/pic/j471.jpg)

(http://www.muenzauktion.com/ritter/pic/12165.jpg)



And then there is the 5 DM circulation coin (1951-74) which has hardly anything except characters and digits on one, and no text (just the eagle) on the other side. Image: Krogoll/muenzauktion.com

(http://www.muenzauktion.com/krogoll/pic/0902_j387_1951g_vz.jpg)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on May 04, 2012, 10:44:32 AM
Netherlands, 50 Guilders, 1998.   350th anniversary of the Treaty of Munster.  Silver collector coin.

Look, there is no spacing between the words. Disgraceful. And the reverse is an even worse case than the obverse.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on May 04, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
Don't particularly like that design either, but I have always thought that the "no spaces" style was meant to evoke the times of the mid-17th century when the agreement was made. The spelling, e.g. VREEDE instead of vrede, and WERRELD instead of wereld, suggests that too. The double portrait of the Queen is interestingly done, raised on one side and incused on the other. I would have preferred a design that focuses, on one side, on the Peace of Münster theme, but with such "abstract themes" a good design is always a challenge. The German coin issued on that occasion* shows a peace dove, lips, hands and a quill. Better? Hmm.

(* Not the very same occasion - the German coin (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11278.msg103360.html#msg103360) commemorated the "Westphalian Peace", ie. the results of the negotiations in both Münster and Osnabrück. But for the Netherlands, the Peace of Münster was more relevant, as that ended the 80 Years Dutch-Spanish War. Also, as a result of that peace, the country was no longer part of the Holy Roman Empire. For the HRE as a whole, and from a "German point of view", however, the combination of both Münster and Osnabrück was important - that is why you almost always hear/read "Westfälischer Friede" here in DE.)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on June 11, 2012, 03:46:05 AM
Usually the numerals on a coin are sculpted in low relief, so that they stand out from the surface. In the case of this 50 centavos coin from Ecuador, issued in 1988, the numerals making the "50" are not raised. They are surrounded by raised narrow vertical strips. The numerals are formed by the gaps between the strips, as you glimpse the smooth shiny surface of the coin.

I've used quite a few words trying to describe the effect, but still I'm not sure I've got it right. Can anyone describe it more succinctly, in fewer words?
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 11, 2012, 09:24:17 AM
Incused in a raised field with hatchings, maybe? (Not sure whether this is understandable without seeing the coin. 8) ) By the way, the "inverted" style, without the vertical lines, you find on many coins - think of the German 5 DM Cu-Ni piece or many tolar coins from Slovenia.

Side note, not really about fonts: The current mid-range euro circulation coins (10, 20 and 50 cent) have an interesting effect too. http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/images/image8904.gif  If you look at the right part (roughly two thirds) of the reverse, the face value appears raised ... on a background which is "semi-raised". That background ends in front of a groove (not raised) and then comes the raised rim. I am sure there are better ways to describe this. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on June 18, 2012, 08:41:07 PM
Belize, 25 dollars, 1992.  Olympic Games - was this a leap year?  :D
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on June 18, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
The Belize design reminds me of the UK 2008 two pound coin.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4987.0;attach=5733;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: FosseWay on June 18, 2012, 09:18:53 PM
Olympic Games - was this a leap year?  :D

Yes -- all Olympic years are leap years apart from 1900 (so far -- 2100 will also not be).  ;)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on June 23, 2012, 05:18:45 PM
Philippines, 5 sentimos, 2012.  I like the way the 5 curves round the hole on this one.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2677.0;attach=24303;image)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on June 25, 2012, 01:54:31 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22619.0;attach=72712;image)



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22619.0;attach=90974;image)



Look at these Brazilian coins, from 1992 and 1993. Notice how on the denominations that are multiples of 10, the text curves around the circle of the coin, but with multiples of 5, the text is horizontal.

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 25, 2012, 02:16:30 PM
Right, interesting. What confused me a little though is that these coins are from two different series. Those that say "Cruzeiros" are from this one http://www.bcb.gov.br/?MOCRUZ90 while the ones that say CR$ are part of this one http://www.bcb.gov.br/?MOCRUZR93 ... But the effect you mentioned applies to both. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Destrans on August 22, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
I found this quite interesting Belgian number 5
Crocodile skin  ;D

(http://www.ibertrand.be/pierre/monnaies/ibelgica/5f/pictures/5F12.jpg)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 23, 2012, 01:44:56 PM
Crocodile? Hmm. ;) But yes, an interesting pattern ...

I just posted some news about a Dutch coin that has "sculpture" as its theme. While I am not fond of the design, the artists tried to make the "face value words" look like sculptures. (The actual coins have different sizes.)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2012, 07:04:22 PM
UK, 2 pounds, 2012.  200th anniversary of Dickens birth.

Which other coins have used text to draw the subject of the design?
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 18, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
Two Dutch pieces come to mind. The techniques used are a little different, but the characters and words (or their absence) "shape" the designs ...

(http://www.herdenkingsmunt.nl/CmsData/FCKUploads/image/vangoghvijfje.jpg)
Van Gogh Vijfje 2003 (http://www.herdenkingsmunt.nl/CmsData/FCKUploads/image/vangoghvijfje.jpg)

(http://www.herdenkingsmunt.nl/CmsData/FCKUploads/image/architectuur-vijfje.jpg)
Architectuur Vijfje 2008 (http://www.herdenkingsmunt.nl/CmsData/FCKUploads/image/architectuur-vijfje.jpg)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on November 24, 2012, 12:37:36 PM
German Democratic Republic: 1 Pfennig, 1950; 5 Pfennig, 1952; 10 Pfennig, 1948.

I like the way in which the word PFENNIG is straight at the top but curved at the bottom, so that it fits snugly into the exergue.

Apart from that, the coin’s crude aluminium design makes it look more like a machine part, or even the surface of a rivet, than a  coin. Not surprising, considering that the communists worshipped industrial machinery far more than the rights of the individual. Back in the 1950s, communist or not, we were all still in the mechanical age, where crank handles and mangles were a common sight. Now that we are living in the electronic age, this design reminds us of how far we have come.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on November 24, 2012, 06:03:19 PM
Denmark, 2 ore, 1941.  Small denomination, big numeral. The curl on that 2 is a bit excessive.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on November 24, 2012, 06:05:29 PM
Denmark, 2 ore, 1915.  Another rather showy "2" from the Danish. The font used for "ORE" is interesting too. You can see it better on the Faeroes 25 ore of 1941.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on November 24, 2012, 06:06:42 PM
Denmark, 2 ore, 1909.   The ORE looks rather jumbled in this attempt.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on November 27, 2012, 07:05:53 PM
While I am most likely not the only one here who gets the Royal Mint (UK) newsletter ;) let me point at this:

http://pinterest.com/royalmint/typography-on-coins/

Christian
Title: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Bimat on November 29, 2012, 04:23:29 PM
How about this collector coin from Armenia? ;)

(http://www.armenpress.am/static/news/b/2012/06/684504.jpg)

Aditya
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 26, 2013, 07:27:29 PM
UK, 2 pounds, 2003. It's amazing to think that if you look at your DNA under the microscope, you will find it is inscribed with letters of the Roman alphabet. More proof that extraterrestrials have been tinkering with our genome. Perhaps it will one day be possible to create your own designer baby with its name inscribed on its DNA.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on February 01, 2013, 02:55:15 PM
UK, 2 pounds, 250th birth anniversary of Robert Burns, Scottish poet.

"We'll tak' a cup o' kindness yet, and for auld lang syne".
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on February 01, 2013, 02:57:00 PM
UK, 2 pounds, 2011.  400th anniversary of the publication of King James' Bible.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on February 21, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20403.0;attach=32702;image)

Singapore, 1 dollar, 1975.  Interesting to see how the strokes of the dollar sign are threaded through the "S". It would be physically possible to do this with a 3D model, yet somehow the perspective does not look right, and the design as shown does look impossible.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on February 24, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
This is slightly off-topic, but I trust you will see the point. When I looked at the obverse of this Tunisian 5 francs coin of 1954 (bottom left), my eye was drawn to the upper circle, and I wondered what the point was. After looking at the reverse, I got it: there is a crescent shape at the bottom of the obverse, and another halfway up (or down) the reverse.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on July 28, 2013, 11:36:48 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19613.0;attach=31011;image)

Moldova 5 lei 1993.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19613.0;attach=31010;image)

Moldova 1 leu 1992



Interesting how the 'L E U' and 'L E I' are made to follow the curve of the coin.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 30, 2013, 12:47:36 AM
A new Czech coin, with a tenor (Beno Blachut) and some operas he sang in. More here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,22533.0.html); this is the obverse of the proof version. Image: Czech Mint.

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: SquareEarth on July 31, 2013, 07:13:13 AM
Macau
2004
1000 Macanese Pataca

(http://web.archive.org/web/20151108204314/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img687/5703/l9jm.jpg)
5th Anniversary of Return of Macau to the Fatherland

Which came as a set:
(http://web.archive.org/web/20151108204340/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img822/3204/dbwk.jpg)

I like the "modernistic" Chinese font, as well as the simplicity of this coin.

And traditional Chinese always looks better than simplified Chinese .

Regards

Chuan
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: SquareEarth on July 31, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Here are 2 Chinese coins depicting similar themes(ancient horse racing).
However, the 1980 coin triumphed with its unique font design (for "Olympic Committee of China"), whereas the 2008 coin was totally ruined by its mindless Microsoft Word font (the 29th Olympic Games).

Regards

CHuan
(http://web.archive.org/web/20151108131027/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/580/nxyl.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20151108131049/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/845/osku.jpg)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: SquareEarth on September 09, 2013, 11:21:58 PM
Japanese 100 Yen.
I like
1) The "Gothic" style they write "100"
2) Extremely thin lines they wrote Kanji words. I like blanks left on coins.
3) How they used simply "Hundred Yen" other than "One Hundred Yen"
as well as
4) How Absurdly small and light the coin is, as compared to its value (1.04 US Dollar, but much higher during the endaka years. In other words it was once more than 10 times the value of a Chinese 1 Yuan coin but physically smaller than it. )
5) Stylistic depiction of a sakura bloom.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/100JPY.JPG)
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 22, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21938.0;attach=42035;image)

Lebanon, 250 pounds, 1953. An interesting "banknote effect" to the text and design motif.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21938.0;attach=42034;image)

The obverse of the coin.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on January 22, 2014, 10:11:43 PM
Here is a €10 collector coin from Greece (2012) which features the philosopher Socrates. On either side the background is quotes from his works - see the attached image. A very similar piece, also from 2012, is dedicated to the playwright Aischylos.

Elsewhere I posted some info and an image of a new French €10 collector coin which commemorates the Edict of Pîtres. See here: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,25634.msg168514.html#msg168514

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on March 30, 2014, 01:41:55 PM
United Arab Emirates, 1 dirham, 2003.  50 years of formal education.  And no - it's not a mis-strike!
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on March 30, 2014, 03:01:45 PM
Poland, 5 zloty, 1979.

Do you like the way the denomination nestles within the curve of the figure 5? If so, please send your answer on a postcard to:

Ministry of Public Security,

Formalist Errors Correction Department,

Warsaw,

Poland.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on July 29, 2014, 12:16:19 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27927.0;attach=46314;image)

Congo, 100 francs, 1975.



(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27927.0;attach=46307;image)

Cameroon, 100 francs, 1966.



Notice the two different types of patterning inside the numerals: "100".
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on October 17, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19183.0;attach=48760;image)

Austria, ½ Schilling, 1925.

On each side of the coin, the text is partly obscured by the central ornament. Notice also how the digits of the year, 1925, are spread out among the letters of "SCHILLING". Is this the result of poor design? I cannot remember seeing anything like it on other coins.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 20, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Is this the result of poor design?

Don't think so. While I do not like the design very much, the artist probably figured that the characters are really big anyway. So why not cover small parts of them? You can still read the text very easily ...

By the way, I just wrote about a new gold "coin" from Slovakia which is quite interesting regarding the use of fonts: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,29134.0.html

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on October 20, 2014, 10:17:44 PM
I just wrote a new gold "coin" from Slovakia

Christian

You just "wrote" one?! Yes, cut out the middlemen, why not? Gold miners, mints - who needs them?  ;D

So this coin was written by a German (you). That could well explain the pseudo-runic font, which is around 90 years out of fashion...
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 20, 2014, 10:45:27 PM
Why don't you wait with your comments until I have finished fixing the errors in my posts? ;D  And yes, the "rune style" font is interesting too, but what caught my eye was the Glagolitic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_alphabet) characters on the other side ...

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on October 21, 2014, 02:19:14 AM
Notice also how the digits of the year, 1925, are spread out among the letters of "SCHILLING". Is this the result of poor design? I cannot remember seeing anything like it on other coins.

Look at Portuguese euro coins. Not the same, but quite similar.

Peter
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on October 21, 2014, 02:28:28 AM
Look at Portuguese euro coins. Not the same, but quite similar.

Peter

I see what you mean.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on December 27, 2014, 06:27:22 PM
Guyana, 1 cent and 10 cents 1967 and 1975.

It's interesting to see the highly noticeable way in which the year follows the curve of the inner circle on each coin. It must do that on any coin, of course, unless it is deliberately shown horizontally, but usually it is done far more subtly than here.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on December 04, 2016, 09:13:52 AM
Andorra, 1988.  This set, featuring Romanesque architecture, has denominational numerals that fill much of the reverse.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on December 06, 2016, 10:56:32 AM
Note the crowned M (Madrid) mint mark. Below is a Spanish circulation coin with a relatively large numeral from this time: Spain wrestling with its escape from dark dictatorship, experimenting with magnificent modernity. Those were heady days.

Peter
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 06, 2016, 01:11:09 PM
The obverse has another interesting text/font related feature. When I first came across that coin, I did not realize it, but those are the initials of king Juan Carlos I. in a stylish version: "JC I".

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on March 01, 2018, 02:02:13 AM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13314.0;attach=80541;image)

Sao Tome, 250 dobras, 1977.

An interesting font has been used for "Dobras" - that type of "a" is rarely seen on a coin.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Pellinore on March 01, 2018, 09:31:59 PM
Usually only capitals are used, interesting!
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 02:04:26 PM
Angola, 10 kwanzas, 2012.  "Kwanzas" is in lower case and italics.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 02:05:28 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13314.0;attach=87130;image)

Angola, 100 kwanzas, 2015.  Here, "Kwanzas" begins with an upper-case K.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on January 01, 2019, 03:41:38 PM
A good reason for the use of all caps on coins. ;D  Ah well, on French collector coins I have seen "EURO", "Euro" and "euro" as well ...

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7241.0;attach=10017;image)

Some more example of lower-case text.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:42:00 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4001.0;attach=25888;image)

The Netherlands.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:42:42 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4001.0;attach=73084;image)

Bohemia and Moravia, Nazi protectorate.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:43:08 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=89649;image)

Isle of Man.

 
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:44:12 PM
Nigeria.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:45:20 PM
Ireland.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2019, 07:46:02 PM
(http://www.coinfactswiki.com/w/images/3/31/Portugal_1960_20_escudos_obv_DSLR.jpg)

Portugal, 20 escudos, 1960.
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on March 25, 2019, 12:09:08 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13636.0;attach=89206;image)

Cuba, 10 centavos, 1994. 

Notice how the cents symbol is contained within the numeral zero of the denomination.  :o
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on October 09, 2019, 02:18:27 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19015.0;attach=91445;image)

Look at the denomination: 10 f. That zero figure is the most disgracefully shaped zero I have ever seen. Is it time to expel French Polynesia from the EU?  :o
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on October 09, 2019, 05:15:27 PM
If people readily understand it, what's the problem? I have more problems with countries where the zero ٠ and the five ٥ look practically the same on the coins, while there is a perfectly good alternative 5 in Persian and Urdu: ۵. Try expelling Iran from the EU >:D

Peter
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 09, 2019, 06:19:58 PM
Guess the designer wanted to come up with something similar to the style of the U's and S's. Nah, that is fine with me; I would not have used the lowercase F for francs though.

Here is another odd zero, from a presumable design for an Andorran €2 commem* to be issued this year. Yes, that piece commemorates a 600th anniversary. :)

(* As we all know, there is no way to throw a country out of the EU. But Andorra is not even a member state, hehe.)

Christian
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 10, 2019, 04:06:32 AM
If people readily understand it, what's the problem? I have more problems with countries where the zero ٠ and the five ٥ look practically the same on the coins, while there is a perfectly good alternative 5 in Persian and Urdu: ۵. Try expelling Iran from the EU
The Persian- Urdu 5 is quoted by you as right and that is used by Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan then why expel Iran.
The wrong 5 quoted is Arabic and used by all from Moroco to Iraq ( includes Tunisia, Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia etc) . If you expel them them how will your cars run😝
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
Lebanon, 2½ piastres, 1940.

The '2' and the '½' are separated by PIASTRES. Is that kind of separation of the denominational numerals unique, to your knowledge?
Title: Re: Text and Fonts on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 18, 2019, 04:51:01 PM
Quite possibly so. Some Portuguese escudo coins are similar in that the currency symbol is between the escudos and the centavos, e.g. "2$50". But an entire word, hmm.

Christian