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Forum and community information => Scanning, photography and image manipulation => Topic started by: bigsoldier on June 25, 2017, 09:44:52 PM

Title: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 25, 2017, 09:44:52 PM
hello dear friends i am new here..

i joined here to have good friends.

i hunted a few coins last week and waiting your comments about them specify.and a baker signet also.

thank you all.

https://ibb.co/kPbxXk

https://ibb.co/eizvJQ

omg ıt is very hard to upload a photo to this side i think i will not use here to communicate.here is not a usuable forum.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 25, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
https://ibb.co/fSh4Ck

https://ibb.co/exoY55
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: capnbirdseye on June 25, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Are you having trouble uploading photo's directly to WoC ?  everyone seems to manage it one way or another and it's easy from a desktop PC, not sure about from a phone as I guess you can't edit it easily.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: capnbirdseye on June 25, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
Did you see the 'Attach:' box  below where you type your message ? you select your photo to upload from there, must be 120kb or less
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 25, 2017, 10:22:01 PM
Did you see the 'Attach:' box  below where you type your message ? you select your photo to upload from there, must be 120kb or less

thank you for your comment.

yes i saw it but it only let little kb.it is impossible to upload a good photo here what a pitty..
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: capnbirdseye on June 25, 2017, 11:29:26 PM
thank you for your comment.

yes i saw it but it only let little kb.it is impossible to upload a good photo here what a pitty..


Not at all, can you find anything wrong with this photo of just 110kb ?
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 26, 2017, 12:05:08 AM

Not at all, can you find anything wrong with this photo of just 110kb ?

wow how did you do that.

it writes 1,65 mb less at my photos thats why i cant upload photo i think.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: Overlord on June 26, 2017, 04:25:11 AM
The obverse and the reverse you linked to seem to be of two different coins. Is that so?
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: capnbirdseye on June 26, 2017, 10:21:24 AM
wow how did you do that.

it writes 1,65 mb less at my photos thats why i cant upload photo i think.
here is the same photo reduced in quality to just 60kb and it still looks just as good good.


I think you will have problems reducing your photo size if you are using a phone unless you are able to edit it,  the photo's from my small camera  are around 400kb to start with but I use a free program called  PhotoScape to circle crop and reduce the size,

Have a look at the coin photography board to see how others can make low res photo's with iPhones etc here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/board,115.0.html)
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 27, 2017, 12:34:51 AM
The obverse and the reverse you linked to seem to be of two different coins. Is that so?

yes it could be.

because i have found 6 coins actually but i couldnt upload all of them.

Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 27, 2017, 12:35:49 AM
here is the same photo reduced in quality to just 60kb and it still looks just as good good.


I think you will have problems reducing your photo size if you are using a phone unless you are able to edit it,  the photo's from my small camera  are around 400kb to start with but I use a free program called  PhotoScape to circle crop and reduce the size,

Have a look at the coin photography board to see how others can make low res photo's with iPhones etc here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/board,115.0.html)

all right thank you.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 27, 2017, 12:56:40 AM
here is the same photo reduced in quality to just 60kb and it still looks just as good good.


I think you will have problems reducing your photo size if you are using a phone unless you are able to edit it,  the photo's from my small camera  are around 400kb to start with but I use a free program called  PhotoScape to circle crop and reduce the size,

Have a look at the coin photography board to see how others can make low res photo's with iPhones etc here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/board,115.0.html)

did you make it lower with a program or another way?

i download a program and it could make only 720 kb
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: Figleaf on June 27, 2017, 09:57:30 AM
Here are your pictures. The first one was cropped to take out much of the background (on a round coin I could have taken out even more). I chased up the contrast and increased lighting. This brought out the details, which facilitates identification. Next, I brought the pixel depth down to 70%. This lowered the weight of the picture by 90%, while it is only 50% of the original size. Now, for the same cost, 9 other people can also post a picture and your has become much easier to identify.

For the sake of completeness, I also cropped the second picture, resizing it and reducing pixel depth, but not changing contrast, as detail is good enough as it is. Its weight came down 95%, from over 700 kb to 34 kb.

I used a Mac and Graphic Converter 2 software. Please refer to this thread (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38557.0.html) for more information and ideas.

The first picture indeed seems to show a Byzantine coin. We would need the other side for an id. The second doesn't look like a coin to me. I think I could be part of a horse's harness. The two items should be presented in different threads, as they belong on different boards.

Peter
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: capnbirdseye on June 27, 2017, 10:32:51 AM
did you make it lower with a program or another way?

i download a program and it could make only 720 kb


I used a free to download program  called PhotoScape which does practically everything that expensive apps like Photoshop can do such as removing your hand from your coin and attempting to give it better colouring which was not so easy as your photo is far too yellow
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 12:29:02 AM
Here are your pictures. The first one was cropped to take out much of the background (on a round coin I could have taken out even more). I chased up the contrast and increased lighting. This brought out the details, which facilitates identification. Next, I brought the pixel depth down to 70%. This lowered the weight of the picture by 90%, while it is only 50% of the original size. Now, for the same cost, 9 other people can also post a picture and your has become much easier to identify.

For the sake of completeness, I also cropped the second picture, resizing it and reducing pixel depth, but not changing contrast, as detail is good enough as it is. Its weight came down 95%, from over 700 kb to 34 kb.

I used a Mac and Graphic Converter 2 software. Please refer to this thread (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,38557.0.html) for more information and ideas.

The first picture indeed seems to show a Byzantine coin. We would need the other side for an id. The second doesn't look like a coin to me. I think I could be part of a horse's harness. The two items should be presented in different threads, as they belong on different boards.

Peter

thank you for your help.

but the second picture is baker signet.

they sign their breads with that.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 12:30:02 AM

I used a free to download program  called PhotoScape which does practically everything that expensive apps like Photoshop can do such as removing your hand from your coin and attempting to give it better colouring which was not so easy as your photo is far too yellow

nice i am gonna download it now.thx
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 12:47:36 AM
i think i did it.

Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 12:57:04 AM
another one
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: Figleaf on June 28, 2017, 12:33:25 PM
Good progress. It is useful to think of the person you want to use your picture. The first picture (23k) is very small. The design is clear but the letters are not. It is excellent for an inventory, a sales list or any other situation in which the coin is already identified.

The second picture is much heavier (103k), but every detail is clear and sharp. This is a perfect picture for identification.

The third picture is very large but of about the same weight (108k) as the previous one. Its details are blurred and it is larger than most computer screens. Though the picture is larger, it is actually less useful for identification or for illustration than the two first pictures.

I like the bread stamp! See here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,29856.msg245067.html#msg245067) for a modern version.

Peter
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: malj1 on June 28, 2017, 02:22:25 PM
hello dear friends i am new here..

i joined here to have good friends.

i hunted a few coins last week and waiting your comments about them specify.and a baker signet also.

thank you all.

https://ibb.co/kPbxXk

https://ibb.co/eizvJQ

omg ıt is very hard to upload a photo to this side i think i will not use here to communicate.here is not a usuable forum.

Here are your two picture from this first post.  ....using a bit of trickery.  ;D
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 11:47:59 PM
Here are your two picture from this first post.  ....using a bit of trickery.  ;D

nice well done :)
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 11:48:38 PM
Good progress. It is useful to think of the person you want to use your picture. The first picture (23k) is very small. The design is clear but the letters are not. It is excellent for an inventory, a sales list or any other situation in which the coin is already identified.

The second picture is much heavier (103k), but every detail is clear and sharp. This is a perfect picture for identification.

The third picture is very large but of about the same weight (108k) as the previous one. Its details are blurred and it is larger than most computer screens. Though the picture is larger, it is actually less useful for identification or for illustration than the two first pictures.

I like the bread stamp! See here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,29856.msg245067.html#msg245067) for a modern version.

Peter

thank you will be better about it day by day :)
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on June 28, 2017, 11:58:43 PM
my other finds one bronze knecklace and earing

and 2 silver ottoman coins 300 years old.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: Figleaf on July 01, 2017, 09:40:12 AM
I presume the coin is an akçe? Is it identified? If not, can you post it in a separate thread, please?

Peter
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on July 03, 2017, 08:29:40 PM
I presume the coin is an akçe? Is it identified? If not, can you post it in a separate thread, please?

Peter

yes they are akçe
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on July 06, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
found and mysterious cross yesterday bronze..

and a name wiritten on it.

can anyone read the name?
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: Figleaf on July 06, 2017, 10:25:00 PM
I would turn it 90° counter-clockwise and assume the text is Greek. Something like ΚΡΑΑΝς ?

Peter
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on July 06, 2017, 11:53:16 PM
I would turn it 90° counter-clockwise and assume the text is Greek. Something like ΚΡΑΑΝς ?

Peter

intresting name.or maybe it was representing something.
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: Figleaf on July 07, 2017, 12:10:31 AM
It means cranes (the birds) in English. A symbol of elegance in Asian cultures, fertility in European cultures. Keep in mind that my reading is somewhat speculative, especially where the N is concerned.

Peter
Title: Re: Byzantium
Post by: bigsoldier on July 07, 2017, 12:27:15 AM
It means cranes (the birds) in English. A symbol of elegance in Asian cultures, fertility in European cultures. Keep in mind that my reading is somewhat speculative, especially where the N is concerned.

Peter

thnk you so much