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Other tokens and medals => Other tokens used for payments => Tokens for operating machines => Topic started by: malj1 on December 11, 2015, 04:56:23 AM

Title: SEEBURG JAPAN
Post by: malj1 on December 11, 2015, 04:56:23 AM
A rather nice token for a Seeburg machine. Can anyone decipher the counter-mark?

R.C.WILLIAMS AND CO.INC.  Roger's 10TH & A AVE TOKYO rev. NOT REDEEMABLE FOR CASH / SEEBURG JAPAN Brass 24.2mm
Title: Re: SEEBURG JAPAN
Post by: Figleaf on December 11, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
It looks like a punch with two characters was used on your token. A Japanese language student commented:

I think they are the katakana characters A (ア) and I (イ) - therefore not words. These characters are used to write foreign words, like Amerlika (America) en ESU EFU (S.F. or Science Fiction). They may be initials.

Peter
Title: Re: SEEBURG JAPAN
Post by: Afrasi on December 11, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
Here a smaller one without counterstamp:
Title: Re: SEEBURG JAPAN
Post by: malj1 on December 11, 2015, 10:15:03 PM
Nice, I didn't expect to see another one.   :D

I think it quite probable it is initials and perhaps of the owner of the establishment where the machine is located.
Title: Re: SEEBURG JAPAN
Post by: Figleaf on December 11, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
According to my source, the characters are used for foreign (non-Japanese) words. They can be a person's initials only if the owner is not Japanese and knows how his name is written in Japanese. Neither is very likely. Maybe the importing or distributing company had a name like Artificial Intelligence, which can only be spelled as initials with this pair of characters.

Peter