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Title: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: betterphilately.com on July 15, 2015, 03:07:32 AM
A set of two coins, Rs 125 and Rs 10 are slated to be released this year to commemorate 125th birth anniversary of Dr. S. Radhakrishnan. Although this release should have occurred in 2013, but better late than never. It is believed that he was a learned man and a respected head of state. It would be safe to assume this coin release on Teacher's Day 05th Sep this year. Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: aarkay on July 15, 2015, 08:45:34 AM
Hi...

Coin in my name...WOW...only "S" --- "G".... ;D

Aarkay
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on July 18, 2015, 06:06:50 AM
Very interesting ... looks like its going to be loot this year for collectors ...
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Patney on August 01, 2015, 06:02:06 AM
Denomination of Coin on Dr. Dr. S. Radhakrishnan would be Rs 125 and Rs 10
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on August 01, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Denomination of Coin on Dr. Dr. S. Radhakrishnan would be Rs 125 and Rs 10

Any confirmation of dates for release ceremony
Title: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Bimat on August 01, 2015, 02:40:38 PM
Any confirmation of dates for release ceremony

Logically speaking, it should be on 5th September. But governments do not think logically... ;)

Aditya
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on August 01, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
Logically speaking, it should be on 5th September. But governments do not think logically... ;)

Aditya

Well logically it should have been 2 or 27 years earlier  >:D ;D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Sumitha on August 12, 2015, 07:34:46 PM
Is the mint running out of money and trying to make some money from the coin collectors ::)
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on August 13, 2015, 02:11:51 AM
Is the mint running out of money and trying to make some money from the coin collectors ::)

We can relate this to the fact that Mints are independent for profit companies under spcmil. Previously they were a division of RBI. ;D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on August 13, 2015, 03:52:27 AM
Re-striking already issued commem coins was the bright idea of Mr. shau, who happened to be the first DGM Marketing of SPMMCIL. Second idea was to issue stainless steel 5/- coins for commemorative coins released in Copper Nickel during 2004 to 2008.
Now, not minting smaller denominations ( 50 paise and 1 Rupee) as they are not financially viable, giving capacity constraint is another step. Insisting on more 10 Rupees commemoratives than 5/- commemorative coins is in same story.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: aarkay on August 13, 2015, 05:49:52 AM
Is the mint running out of money and trying to make some money from the coin collectors ::)

Hi…

Absolutely right…like in Philately, issue coins in abundance without any rhyme or reason lacking imagination, which hardly attract International Attention from collectors….only Indian Collector are interested and run after these…after all the departments are run by bureaucrats for whom normal coins and commemoratives are one and the same and for working there is a 10 to 5 job….why can’t the Government appoint some one well versed and knowledgeable about coins and its importance…..rather than issue coins like puppies…..at this rate Government will kill this wonderful hobby…..

Aarkay
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on August 13, 2015, 07:05:15 AM
If you attend ministry of finance committee meeting on coinage, you will get to know why it happens that way.
Can not be described in words but numismatists are the last persons in the minds of members. It is a major political upmanship that prevails.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Sumitha on August 21, 2015, 07:19:29 PM
why can’t the Government appoint some one well versed and knowledgeable about coins and its importance…..rather than issue coins like puppies…..at this rate Government will kill this wonderful hobby…..

Aarkay
,

Correct, even I feel the same.
They should give importance to the quality of coin as in the design,significance .. and not to the quantiity   >:(.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: betterphilately.com on September 01, 2015, 02:21:31 AM
Here's an article from Indian Express that talks about the coin release on 04th September by the Prime Minister of India. Hoping this is true!

http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/intercation-with-pm-only-10-of-75-up-districts-respond-to-mhrd-call-on-meritorious-kids/
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 01, 2015, 05:31:26 AM
Looks like the 8th coin of the year is on its way  :D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Vivek on September 04, 2015, 06:44:59 AM
Just released
Rs10 and Rs125
Copied from live stream of the event. Coins clearly shown in live telecast but could not take pic
Vivek
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on September 04, 2015, 08:19:08 AM
The image
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Vivek on September 04, 2015, 08:30:59 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NzaJ4qIYMc0/Vek6Yddn_QI/AAAAAAAAEio/j_mGZrN2KZA/s912-Ic42/Rk1.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o4sF9Kj7JB0/Vek6YRx2sfI/AAAAAAAAEik/S8GReWylJ4c/s912-Ic42/Rk2.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CNhihYL74-o/Vek6Yad-uHI/AAAAAAAAEic/BhYbItgv7hI/s912-Ic42/Rk3.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PFhGt3ONPvQ/Vek6Y7FWVfI/AAAAAAAAEis/HJqDOvX3xFQ/s912-Ic42/Rk4.jpg)
Vivek
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 04, 2015, 08:42:09 AM
Great ... can anyone update the count ... truly lost track  ;D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 04, 2015, 03:48:06 PM
Looks like a first coin event that got Television coverage. Is this another way to promote the coins and the hobby so that markets go up again.  ;D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on September 04, 2015, 06:32:14 PM
How come, more coins are being issued on 125th birth Anniversary than Centenary of birth?
Does 125 have any special significance?
OR is the in the intervening 25 years, no
Leader was born?
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: repindia on September 04, 2015, 10:22:58 PM
How come, more coins are being issued on 125th birth Anniversary than Centenary of birth?
Does 125 have any special significance?
OR is the in the intervening 25 years, no
Leader was born?

You might know the process of issuing coins better than anybody else. Is it the SPMCIL who comes up with designs and then recommends the government or the other way round? I had a feeling that they needed to boost the revenue and so resorting to all these odd anniversaries as a pretext of issuing coins. The government always has a political motive but then why so many in such a short time? This has been happening from the time of the last government so I am thinking maybe the SPMCIL initiates this. You might know better so please enlighten us.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 05, 2015, 04:41:07 AM
How come, more coins are being issued on 125th birth Anniversary than Centenary of birth?
Does 125 have any special significance?
OR is the in the intervening 25 years, no
Leader was born?

I guess some leaders were missed and hence are being accommodated by 150th Birth Anniversary or 125th. Some of it on request of our Prime Minister. Otherwise there was no reason to have Jawharlal Nehru's coin again. Like wise Yoga, Radhakrishnan etc. Then of course one has to balance things in undo mistakes of past  ;D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: betterphilately.com on September 05, 2015, 03:49:07 PM
Here's some details about the coin from a government notification in June 2015: The face of the coin shall bear the portrait of “Dr. S. RADHAKRISHNAN" in the center, with inscription “डॉ. ए. राा. 125 जंती” in Devnagri script on upper periphery and “125TH BIRTH ANNIVERSARY OF DR. S. RADHAKRISHNAN” in English on the lower periphery respectively. The year’s figure “1888-2013” shall be written in international numerals below the portrait of Dr. S. Radhakrishnan.

Note the mention of 1888-2013 that was conveniently replaced with 2015 in the actual coins. I am pretty sure there will be an addendum to this notification, but minting 2015 on a coin that commemorates someone's 125th birth anniversary in 2013 doesn't quite add up. It's hard to convey this to the ministry and its officials. Hopefully some of you with more reach in New Delhi can loop back with them.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: betterphilately.com on September 05, 2015, 03:56:19 PM
I know everyone has probably seen the release function on video, but just posting an image for those who have not. Enjoy. Hopefully this leaves only Lala Lajpat Rai coin subject that is known and unreleased this year. Let's see what else lies in store.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on September 05, 2015, 04:12:28 PM
Some of it on request of our Prime Minister. Otherwise there was no reason to have Jawharlal Nehru's coin again.

There are quite a few proposals of Birth Centenary which have been kept pending. Notable amongst them are M S Deoras, Biju Patnaik, Deen Dayal Upadhyaya, Nanaji Deshmukh etc. As a matter of fact, birth Centenary of Bhisham Sahni just went by on August 8th and was skipped.

Here's some details about the coin from a government notification in June 2015:

Can I have the link to the notification?

Hopefully this leaves only Lala Lajpat Rai coin subject that is known and unreleased this year.
I think Nabakalebar Yatra was equally confirmed.

In addition, there is some likelihood of Birsa Munda, a proposal from Jharkhand very likely since it is from an equally unrepresented state as was Rani G.
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 05, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
Note the mention of 1888-2013 that was conveniently replaced with 2015 in the actual coins. I am pretty sure there will be an addendum to this notification, but minting 2015 on a coin that commemorates someone's 125th birth anniversary in 2013 doesn't quite add up.

Well there are quite a few things that never add up in Commemorative coins. At times there is no logic as to why something is issued or the date etc or the time. The justification for use of 2015 as date would be as the event was held then ...

Read similar issue recently on the Homi Bhaba Coin (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,4355.msg38801.html#msg38801)
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: betterphilately.com on September 05, 2015, 07:41:54 PM
Thanks for the responses.

Pabitra: With Lala Lajpat Rai I meant release for which notification from the federal government has been put out. I have not come across any such official document for Nabakalebara yet. See a couple pages from the notification attached with this post. Hope this helps. Thanks for shedding light on M. S. Deoras, Nanaji Deshmukh and Birsa Munda coin proposals. Still hoping Bhisham Sahni centenary will be commemorated either with a coin or stamp release by the valedictory function in August 2016.

Dheer: I personally feel that Homi Bhabha date was more like the commemoration year of the birth centenary. Agreed it was not the best representation given that Homi Bhabha's birth year was 1909, but still somewhat valid. The problem with Dr. Radhakrishnan date/subject is two-fold. One, the notification with 1888-2013 as a government decision was already published and second, the 125th birth anniversary commemoration cannot really occur in 2015, when it really fell in 2013. Just deserves clarification from the ministry officials, I feel.

All: Should Eknath Ranade centenary also be considered for a commemorative coin release? Just going by the fact that M. S. Deoras and Nanaji Deshmukh have been mentioned.
Title: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Bimat on September 07, 2015, 07:13:04 AM
Some guys think that you should get the silver coin for face.. :)

The coins issued on Teachers’ Day not available

Dear Editor,

Prime Minister Narender Modi issued commemorative coins in denominations of rupees 125 and rupees 10 in memory of former President Dr Sarvapali Radhakrishnan to mark Teachers’ Day on 05.09.2015. But big question is if teachers and students could get these coins at face value on date of release of the coins? If not, then it is totally senseless to have any function to distribute these coins packed in fancy and attractive packing free-of-cost to some selected privileged VVIPs. Union Ministry for Human Resource Development (MoHRD) and Union Finance Ministry should soon arrange providing these coins at face value to desiring teachers and students at all schools and colleges of the country.

Otherwise also, silver-alloy coins should have face-value more than double the metal-value at time of issue of coins, and should be available for general public at face-value right from date of release of coins through all coin-issuing bank-branches. According to an RTI response, metal-cost of coins on Rabindranath Tagore with face-value of rupees 150 was rupees 971 at time of issue of coins.

Cumbersome practice of selling higher-priced coin-sets through advance-booking much after issue of coins should be simplified by having just one category of ‘Proof Coin Set’ in all denominations abolishing the other category of ‘Uncirculated Set’, to be sold at convenient sale-points like bank-counters (private and public-sector) and philatical centres right from date of issue of coins for affording coin-collectors by giving banks sale-commission. Such steps will not only make general public part of commemorating an occasion through issue of coins, but will give net revenue-earning to government because such high-priced coins and their sets never come in actual circulation.

—Madhu Agrawal,

1775 Kucha Lattushah Dariba Delhi.

Source: Kashmir Times (http://www.kashmirtimes.in/newsdet.aspx?q=44698)
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on September 07, 2015, 07:44:35 AM
Madhu and her husband, Subhash are full time lets to editor writers. Their name appears in Limca book of Indian Records.

They demand everything without knowing A B C  ....... of logistics involved.
Title: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Bimat on September 07, 2015, 08:24:03 AM
Madhu and her husband, Subhash are full time lets to editor writers. Their name appears in Limca book of Indian Records.

They demand everything without knowing A B C  ....... of logistics involved.

 :D :D :D

But I agree with her last suggestion (see last paragraph). It makes sense but it won't happen....

Aditya
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 07, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
Madhu and her husband, Subhash are full time lets to editor writers. Their name appears in Limca book of Indian Records.

They demand everything without knowing A B C  ....... of logistics involved.

Well who knows Mints may actually take this idea seriously and replace the Silver with Ordinary metal and package and sell the coins. If more people buy mints anyway make more money ... Hyderabad mint is already doing single coins at fancy price. No the price of coin is Rs 5. The remaining 295 is for the package  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: Pabitra on September 07, 2015, 11:22:57 AM
Do you think banks would do it for free?
Title: Re: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan Coin
Post by: dheer on September 07, 2015, 12:25:20 PM
Do you think banks would do it for free?

Definitely not I would think.
Banks are not even keen to distribute definitive coins and RBI has special designated bank branches to dole out the coins. So its a tough ask. Even the coin vending machine that SBI put in is only in handful of places, its a cost. The last statistics I knew was the minute a person walks into a Branch, it costs around Rs 165. So there is no way they can make money from this.
Title: Re: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: dheer on February 27, 2017, 05:41:58 PM
Reviving this thread. As already indicated by others on separate thread, dispatch of coins have begun.

I got my sets. Fantastic strike quality for Kolkata mint.
Horrible glue problem. It has damaged the inner cover. Really sad.
Title: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: Bimat on February 28, 2017, 04:22:57 AM
Horrible glue problem. It has damaged the inner cover. Really sad.

Why not write to them, telling about the problem? If they are wise enough, they will at least try to improve next time...

Aditya
Title: Re: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: Pabitra on June 04, 2018, 12:05:05 PM
Issued in to circulation without any press release.
Kolkata mint
Title: Re: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: Navaneeth on June 05, 2018, 05:24:07 AM
Issued in to circulation without any press release.
Kolkata mint

Awesome. Hope to see other commemoratives in circulation.
Title: Re: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: kishoretkm on June 06, 2018, 08:34:44 AM
Good news for us, Hope it will available in Chennai too. (not in circulation, mean Dealers)
Then no need to buy that coins with high premium.
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Issued in to circulation without any press release.
Kolkata mint
Title: Re: New Commemorative Issue: 2015: Dr. S. Radhakrishnan 125th Birth Anniversary
Post by: Navaneeth on October 18, 2018, 06:44:51 PM
Got today of Hyderabad Mint.