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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Other European Influences => Topic started by: Overlord on January 01, 2009, 11:06:45 AM

Title: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Overlord on January 01, 2009, 11:06:45 AM
D.Luiz Filippe succeeded his brother to the throne of Portugal on November 11, 1861. He reigned until October 19, 1889.

The currency of Portuguese India was changed to a new standard as a result of the Luso-Britannic Convention of 1880 with the silver rupee (Uma Rupia), eleven-twelfths pure silver .916 fine and weighing 11.66 grams. Half-rupee (Meia Rupia), quarter-rupee (Quarto De Rupia), and eighth-rupee (Oitavo De Rupia) as divisions were minted at both the Calcutta and Bombay mints to the same standards corresponding to the coinage of British India. The rupee and half-rupee were struck dated 1881 and 1882, while the quarter-rupee and eight-rupee were issued only in 1881. A copper coinage was issued dated 1881,1884,1886 and 1888 with a much higher mintage.


Obverse Bare head of Luiz I left, LUDOVICUS I PORTUG ET ALGARB REX 1882 (Luiz I, King of Portugal and the Algarve, 1882)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/amitvyas03/PI2.jpg)

Reverse Crowned plain shield, having on it seven castle towers, surrounding a cross made of five shields, all within wreath of laurel and oak; INDIA PORTUGUEZA UMA RUPIA (Portuguese India, 1 Rupee)
(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/amitvyas03/PI1.jpg)
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Figleaf on January 01, 2009, 01:43:42 PM
An amazingly European coin. Not a single concession to India. Interesting info on the convention of 1880. Apparently, the British had understood that the status quo was as good as controlling those little remaining Portuguese spots, while the Portuguese understood the commercial interest of a common standard on the coins.

It is sometimes difficult to distinguish between laurel and olive, but when the branch wears short round fruit, it is olive.

This one would also fit nicely in the "moustaches on coins" collection suggested here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,2228.msg11225.html#msg11225).

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: BC Numismatics on January 02, 2009, 12:12:17 AM
D.Luiz Filippe succeeded his brother to the throne of Portugal on November 11, 1861. He reigned until October 19, 1889.

The currency of Portuguese India was changed to a new standard as a result of the Luso-Britannic Convention of 1880 with the silver rupee (Uma Rupia), eleven-twelfths pure silver .916 fine and weighing 11.66 grams. Half-rupee (Meia Rupia), quarter-rupee (Quarto De Rupia), and eighth-rupee (Oitavo De Rupia) as divisions were minted at both the Calcutta and Bombay mints to the same standards corresponding to the coinage of British India. The rupee and half-rupee were struck dated 1881 and 1882, while the quarter-rupee and eight-rupee were issued only in 1881. A copper coinage was issued dated 1881,1884,1886 and 1888 with a much higher mintage.

Amit,
  That is very nice.Portuguese Indian coins have always been a very tough coinage series to collect.I once had a 1/2 Rupia,plus an 1/8 Tanga from the coinage of King Luis,whose title was actually 'King of Portugal & the Algarve'.

Brazil became independent in 1822 as a monarchy under Emperor Pedro I (ruled 1822-31),& remained so until the overthrow of Emperor Pedro II in November 1889.

Prior to 1871,Damao,Diu,& Goa all issued their own coins.The Goan 1 Tanga occasionally turns up,but they are all pretty scarce to rare.

Aidan.
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Overlord on January 02, 2009, 03:53:32 PM
Aidan, thanks a ton for the correction and the additional info.
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on September 12, 2011, 10:55:13 AM
Dear All

Please find the image of 1881 Coin from Portugueze  India

Need some comment from all experts

Samir
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Figleaf on September 12, 2011, 12:44:03 PM
Very nice find, Samir. These coins are hard to find.

This coin could do with some cleaning. Try rubbing it gently with an old soft cloth (old baby clothes are perfect. If that doesn't help, try a soft eraser. If that also doesn't help, let us know and we'll try something harsher.

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: sdchaugule on September 12, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
This is India Portugueza UMA Rupia 1881. This is silver coin and available for about Rs 4000. Where did you get this and what price? Get it cleaned under Peter’s guidance.
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on September 13, 2011, 05:34:01 AM
Dear Sir

Thanks for suggestion, guide and help (I follow your instruction) I was afraid that if i try to clean the coin, may be it worse the coin condition so i didn't tried.

Just want to know its rare or common.

Samir

Very nice find, Samir. These coins are hard to find.

This coin could do with some cleaning. Try rubbing it gently with an old soft cloth (old baby clothes are perfect. If that doesn't help, try a soft eraser. If that also doesn't help, let us know and we'll try something harsher.

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on September 13, 2011, 05:53:39 AM
Dear Friend

I have no idea from where did i get the same because it is with me from my childhood in my collection and due to blackishness of the coin it was kept in my coin box uninterestly, just the courisity the the date mention 1881 and protuqueze india i posted the same to get some knowledge.

Just to know why it is called UMA Rupia 1881 ?

After cleaning i will post it again.

Samir

This is India Portugueza UMA Rupia 1881. This is silver coin and available for about Rs 4000. Where did you get this and what price? Get it cleaned under Peter’s guidance.
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: bart on September 13, 2011, 01:02:40 PM
UMA is Portuguese for ONE, so instead of putting "1 RUPIA", they put the denomination in written: "UMA RUPIA"

Bart
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on September 15, 2011, 05:48:46 AM
Dear Sir

Please find the clean Picture of the coinm hope that it is much better.

Samir

Very nice find, Samir. These coins are hard to find.

This coin could do with some cleaning. Try rubbing it gently with an old soft cloth (old baby clothes are perfect. If that doesn't help, try a soft eraser. If that also doesn't help, let us know and we'll try something harsher.

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Coinsforever on September 15, 2011, 06:58:15 AM
On the right photograph  , the face is with some countermarks or wear ?

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on September 15, 2011, 10:03:10 AM
I have no idea about the countermark or wear

It looks like a wear.

Samir

On the right photograph  , the face is with some countermarks or wear ?

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Figleaf on September 15, 2011, 09:54:07 PM
Excellent result, Samir! As far as I can judge from the picture, the patina is preserved and the coin looks just great. I am also wondering about the three punches. If you turn the coin 45° against the clock, they look a bit like STP, which, in a catholic environment, could be Saint Peter (not me!)

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on September 16, 2011, 05:30:35 AM
Thanks for your appriciation and advice

I am not able to understand about this lines. (As know we are learner)

(If you turn the coin 45° against the clock, they look a bit like STP, which, in a catholic environment, could be Saint Peter (not me!)

Samir


Excellent result, Samir! As far as I can judge from the picture, the patina is preserved and the coin looks just great. I am also wondering about the three punches. If you turn the coin 45° against the clock, they look a bit like STP, which, in a catholic environment, could be Saint Peter (not me!)

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Bimat on September 16, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Peter is saying that turn the right image (or the coin when it's in your hands) anticlockwise (by about 45 degrees) and you will see a counter mark which says 'STP' which could probably mean Saint Peter.

Aditya
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Md. Shariful Islam on September 16, 2011, 10:57:05 AM
Definitely looks like punches. But don't see any impact of the punches on the other side of the coin.

Islam
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: capnbirdseye on September 16, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
Not seen a one Rupee of this series so a good find,  here's a lesser coin of the same series & date, a quarter Rupee in quite good condition except for some kind of edge knock it suffered at some time ( hopefully not in my Toffee tin)  :o
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Figleaf on September 16, 2011, 12:10:36 PM
Another coin that's quite collectible. Unless you like the state the coin is in, this one could also benefit from a gentle soft eraser treatment...

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Vivek on November 18, 2012, 06:58:07 AM
Here is mine...Purchased this Diwali..
Kevin(WOC2011) your comments... 8)
Vivek
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Figleaf on November 18, 2012, 11:11:25 AM
Very well preserved coins. All details are there. Congratulations.

Peter
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on November 19, 2012, 05:18:42 AM
I have this coin and post long back on the forum but dont know how to find the thread and paste the link.

Anyone can help me one the same.

Samir
Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: Ansari on November 19, 2012, 05:33:44 AM
Very Fine coin Vivek.

I have this coin and post long back on the forum but dont know how to find the thread and paste the link.

Anyone can help me one the same.

Samir

Here is the link (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11517) to your post.

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Title: Re: Portuguese India: Uma (1) Rupia, 1882
Post by: $$ on November 19, 2012, 06:36:19 AM
Thanks Ansari

Very Fine coin Vivek.

Here is the link (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11517) to your post.

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