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Title: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Miguel.mateo on December 17, 2008, 05:49:09 AM
Well, there are another two €5 euro coins depicting Mozart and Beethoven separately.  There are also two other €100 depicting them as well.  I think that the whole theme "Great composers" have been properly represented in the Austrian coins.

Thanks,
Miguel
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on December 19, 2008, 12:34:59 AM
Here's a quick list of Austrian issues with individuals on the theme music. No choirs, orchestras, concert halls, anonymous dancers and players. You'd be well advised to stay away from including musical instruments if you want to collect on this theme.

Beethoven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beethoven)KM 3118, 3120
EislerKM 2969
Haydn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haydn)KM 2848, 2955, 3110
Karajan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_von_Karajan)KM 3000
Lehar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehar)KM 2907
Mahler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahler)KM 3010
Mozart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart)KM 2847, 2881, 2996, 2997, 2998, 2999, 3088, 3130, 3131
Nestroy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestroy)KM 2932
Nicolai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Nicolai)KM 3005
Schubert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schubert)KM 2843, 2937, 3040
Strauss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss#Composers) Sr. and Jr.KM 2902, 2923, 3008, 3021, 3055, 3061
Vogelweide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_von_der_Vogelweide)KM 2845
Ziehrer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziehrer)KM 2912

And the winner is ... Mozart, though Strauss is helped by being two persons. I think Schubert is underrepresented.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Miguel.mateo on December 19, 2008, 06:16:17 AM
Beethoven is in the 100 euro 2005 and in one of the 5 euro 2005 euro commemorative coins.

Thanks,
Miguel
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 19, 2008, 08:03:14 PM
I think Schubert is underrepresented.

We need to do something about that.
Abracadabra, turn two into three!

Actually the first commemorative of the first Austrian republic (2 Schilling 1928) features Franz Schubert. The other two - 50 S 1978, 500 S 1997 - are the ones you mentioned. But of course Mozart is miles ahead, money wise. He also was on the 5000 S note, and is on the €1 circulation coin ...

Christian

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on December 27, 2008, 10:11:27 PM
Thanks, Miguel and Christian. List is amended, except that I couldn't find a picture of that Beethoven 100 euros 2005.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Miguel.mateo on December 28, 2008, 03:40:15 AM
Apologies, is a 50 euro coin.  You can see the coin here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_gold_and_silver_commemorative_coins_%28Austria%29#2005_coinage

I am sure you did not look enough  ;D

Thanks,
Miguel
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 08, 2011, 09:10:14 PM
Hello, Figleaf, and others.

Here is an update to the excellent list posted by Peter (Figleaf) of Austrian music coins. In this list I have only included composers but there are many additional music related coins from Austria

*Austrian Composer Coins in addition to the excellent list provided by Figleaf:

Ludwig Van Beethoven (1712-1773)
* Austria (Grinzing District) 200 Schillings  X# Tn3  1985  Proof  2,000            
  Austria  50 Euro  Gold 2005  KM- 3118  Proof  50,000               
  Austria  5 Euro  2005  KM-3120  BU  100,000   

Anton Bruckner (1824-1896)
 *Austria  25 Schillings  KM-2892  1962  AU  2,399,000                                                         
 *Austria  20 Schillings  KM-3033  1996  Unc. __   

Josef Haydn (1732-1809)
*Austria 25 ECU  KM-__  1998  Proof  __            Unlisted      
Austria  2 Schillings  KM-2848  1932  MS 65 PCGS  300,000   
Austria  20 Schillings  KM-2955.1  1982  Proof  50,000            
*Austria  5 Euro  KM-__ 2009  Unc.  __            Unlisted         
Austria  50 Euro Gold  KM-3110  2004  Proof  50,000   

Franz Lehar (1870-1948)

 Austria  25 Schillings  KM-2907  1970  Proof 139,000               

Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)

 Austria  500 Schillings  KM-3010  1992  Proof 64,000                             

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791)
 Austria  5 ECUS  X#-27  1996  Proof                                       
 Austria  25 ECUS  X#-28  1996 Proof __                                   
Austria  2 Schillings  KM-2847  1931  BU  500,000 (including proofs)                                       
Austria 25 Schillings  KM-2881  1956  BU  4,990,000                 
Austria  100 Schillings KM-2996  1991  Proof  100,000                
Austria  500 Schillings gold  KM-2997  1991  Proof  50,000                             
Austria  100 Schillings  KM-2998 1991  Proof  100,000                
Austria  1 Euro  KM-3088  2002  BU  223,600,000                                
Austria  5 Euros  KM-3131  2006  BU  125,000                   
*Austria  50 Euro Gold  KM-3130  2006  Proof  50,000               

Otto Nicolai (1810-1849)
 *Austria  100 Schillings  KM-3005  1992  Proof  75,000               


Franz Schubert (1797-1828)
*Austria  5 ECU  X-__  1995  Proof               Unlisted      
*Austria  25 ECU  X-30  1997  Proof                     
*Austria (Grinzing District) 200 Schillings  X#__  1997  BU  _       Unlisted      
Austria  2 Schillings  KM-2843  1928  Unc.                    
Austria  50 Schillings  KM-2937 1978  Proof  132,000                  
Austria  500 Schillings  Gold  KM-3040  1997  Proof  50,000 est.              


Johann Strauss (1825-1899)
*Austria  5 ECU  X-#22  1995  Proof  __                  
*Austria  25 ECU  X-#23  1995  Proof  __                     
Austria  50 Schillings  KM-2902  1967  Proof  26,100               
Austria  100 Schillings  KM-2923  1975  Proof  209,000                
Austria  500 Schillings  Gold  KM-3055  1999 Proof  50,000 Est.             .
Austria  50 Schilling  KM-3061  1999  Special Unc.  100,000          

Walther von der Vogelweide (1170-1230)
Austria  2 Schillings  KM-2845  1930  XF  500,000                  

Carl Michael Ziehrer (1843-1922)
Austria  25 Schillings  KM-2912  1972  Proof  145,000               

           

There are other Austrian composer coins that I do not have in my collection as yet. Among these are:

Mozart, Grinzing District of Austria 200 Guilden 1991 X3 Tn9
Mozart 1000 Schillings Mozart Gold, Magic Flute KM-2999
Strauss, 1000 Schillings Schubert Gold KM 3008   
Richard Strauss, 500 Schillings KM-3021
2003 Mint Set with Mozart on the folder cover…and I’m sure there are others that I have missed completely.


Thank you, Peter,  for pointing out the Fanny Elssler Coin (KM-2969) as I will hunt to add this piece to my collection at some point.

If anyone is interested, Austria has other “music related” coins of which I have a few. For example, the Vienna Boys Choir KM-3047, and if you like, I will look through my lists for other Austrian MUSIC/Musician coins. I know they made pieces on famous conductors, theaters and opera houses, national heroes that are musically affiliated and so on. I’d be glad to check my lists and post the information here if there is any interest. Also, I have my collection of worldwide composer coins if there is any interest. I’d be glad to share and especially to have the opportunity to “talk” with other music coin collectors. I believe we are a rather rare breed.   

Thank you again, Figleaf!

Alan    Massachusetts, U.S.A.   

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on February 10, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
And if you include collector coins (silver/gold), there is also the 1997 Iberoamericana series. It was dedicated to dances, and the Spanish 2000 ptas coin featured a dancer/ballerina. Also, while the "Cantar de mio Cid" is primarily literature rather than music, the 50 euro beast ;) shows two medieval trombone or shawm players.

Germany has issued more music related coins than Spain but fewer than Austria. Here is a list; in theory more could be added. The Prussian king Friedrich ("Frederick the Great") for example composed and played music too. First, the pieces from the Federal Republic of Germany:

5 DM Ludwig van Beethoven 1970
5 DM Walther von der Vogelweide 1980
5 DM Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy 1984
5 DM European Year of Music 1985
10 DM Johann Sebastian Bach 2000
10 DM Albertz G. Lortzing 2001
€10 Gottfried Semper 2003 *
€10 Wolfgang A. Mozart 2006
€10 Robert Schumann 2010
€10 Franz Liszt 2011

Then we have the collector coins from the German Democratic Republic (East G., 1949-1990):

GDR 10 M Ludwig van Beethoven 1970
GDR 5 M Johannes Brahms 1972 (with a wrong note ...)
GDR 20 M Johann S. Bach 1975
GDR 10 M Gewandhaus 1982 (concert hall in Leipzig)
GDR 10 M Richard Wagner 1983
GDR 20 M Georg F. Händel 1984
GDR 10 M Semper Opera House 1985
GDR 5 M Ernst Barlach 1988 **

* Semper was an architect; the coin also shows his opera house in Dresden.
** Barlach was a sculptor; the coin depicts his "Flute Player".

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on February 10, 2011, 12:30:56 PM
Well, if we show such instruments, we might as well have a look at these pieces. 8) (See attachment; images: muenzen-am-zoo.de, worldmintcoins.com)  Take the Cantigas de Santa María: Seems that Alfonso X of Castile (Alfonso el Sabio) not only collected them but also composed some of the cantigas himself. Similarly, while Henry VIII did probably not compose Greensleeves, he was indeed the author of Pastime with good Company ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 10, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Hello, Izatz.

Yes, I'm checking toe 2001-Date edition. 10 Euro  coins go from 2007 to 2009...nothing listed for 2008.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 12, 2011, 01:45:58 AM
Russian Music Related Coins (incomplete as there are several I can't find nor afford)
COMPOSERS:
Alexander Porfiryevich Borodin (1833-1887) 1 Rouble  KM-347  1993  BU  500,000            
Aleksandr Griboyedov (1795-1829) 2 Roubles  Y-377  1995  Proof  200,000            
Modest Mussorgsky (1839-1881) 1 Rouble  Y-220  1989  Proof  300,000                              
Pytor llyich Tchaikovsky (1840-1893) 100 Rouble Gold  Y-454  1993  Proof  5,700   
     1 Rouble  Y-236  1990  Proof  400,000                  
     3 Roubles  Y-__  2008  Proof  __            Unlisted   
Sergei Rachmaninov (1873-1943) 50 Rouble gold  Y-453  1993  Proof  7,500 
THEATERS/OPERA HOUSES
3 Roubles Novosibirsk State Academic Opera and Ballet Theater Y-__2005   Proof                                                                           3 Roubles  225 years of Bolshoi Theater  Y-677  2001  Proof  7,500          
3 Roubles  Kazan Theater Building  Y-910  2005  Proof  10,000
FAMOUS PERFORMERS
Oistrakh, David  Violinist  2 Roubles   Y-__  2008  Proof __      Unlisted    
CONTINUED in next post                          
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 12, 2011, 10:32:26 PM
One of my favorite new acquisitions:

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ALan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 14, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
Hello, everyone.

Here I am again posting the Benin Mozart Coin which for whatever reason was deleted from my previous attempt. I know of 2 other composer coins from Benin, another Mozart, 1000 francs, and I believe a 1000 francs of Beethoven. As we discussed recently, non are listed in the "Standard Catalog 2001-Present" as Benin has been omitted. Be well, everyone. Alan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on February 15, 2011, 01:30:51 PM
The story about these Romanian pieces (Porumbescu, Enescu) sounds interesting. :) My catalog says that the former was issued as a silver coin only, and the latter comes as a gold piece only. That matches what the central bank says:

(List of collector coins) http://www.bnr.ro/Numismatica-726.aspx?arch=1
George Enescu: Gold Au999, mintage 250
http://www.bnr.ro/page.aspx?prid=3185
http://www.bnr.ro/EmisiuniDetails.aspx?idd=107&WebPageId=726

Ciprian Porumbescu: Silver Ag999, mintage 500
http://www.bnr.ro/page.aspx?prid=450
http://www.bnr.ro/EmisiuniDetails.aspx?idd=92&WebPageId=726

No idea who had the tombac pieces made. Some collector coins are actually issued in base metal versions, but apparently not these ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 16, 2011, 02:27:46 AM
Hi, Peter.

That is a beautiful "bell coin" from China. It's not the one I was looking for, (and now can't find in SCWC) but I found a bunch more in China that are now on the hunt list. The coin I was looking for was also a tuned bell piece, with a huge bell, in silver. Somewhere I have a picture. I have the Mozart , Tchaikovsky and Beethoven coins of China, and an opera piece or 2, but because you motivated me to hunt through SCWC, I found KM657. Guiseppi Verdi, 10 yuan 1994...most definitely on the priority want list. and several beautifully designed instrument coins as well. 

Thanks for the push!

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 16, 2011, 02:45:25 AM
Hello, chrisild.

Thank you for the references on the Romanian bank and the composer coins that I have in Tombac. Though many of the pages did not translate into English, I could figure out that there was no reference to the Tombac Enescu or Porumbescu "coins". Very interesting. Someone wrote me about a year ago questioning how I obtained them as they were unauthorized. The speculation is that they were made at the mint under "questionable" circumstances...somewhat like the 1913 Liberty nickel here in the U.S.. That speculation makes the coins all much more interesting. When I received the brief note from the mint, it was also suggested that they were unauthorized but the reference wasn't clear. I purchased them from a dealer I met online in Romania.

If anyone has the NGC Population reports on these pieces, I would be grateful if you could share the information.

Many thanks.  Alan

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 16, 2011, 03:02:32 PM
Just out of curiosity, I zipped off another e-mail to the Romanian Mint last night asking about mintages for the Porumbescu and Enescu TOMBAC 500 Lei coins, requesting mintages of each.

I was pleased to get the following response this morning:

Ciprian Porumbescu
•   face value: 500 LEI;
•   metal: silver 999/1000;
•   fineness: 31,1030 g;
•   diameter: 37 mm;
•   edge: milled
•   quality: proof;
•   mintage: 500 ;    

   
George Enescu
•   face value: 500 LEI;
•   metal: gold 999/1000;
•   fineness: 31,1030 g;
•   diameter: 35 mm;
•   edge: milled
•   quality: proof;
•   mintage: 250 ;

So, the mystery deepens. If the mint doesn't even have them as being minted, I wonder where they did come from, and, why would NGC certify them as 500 Lei coins if they technically don't exist by mint records? I sure would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to see how these pieces were made...and by whom.

Maybe I'll write romaniancoins.com and ask if they have any information. They were kind enough to publish the photos I sent them on to their website.   

Have a great day (evening?) everyone.  Alan

   

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 16, 2011, 05:40:57 PM
If anyone is following this, I received another reply today, this one from the owners of the romaniacoins.com site. I am attaching their reply to my question as to mintages (how and how many) of the TOMBAC Porumbescu and Enescu music coins. I think this is the best information I will receive and I understand why the Romanian Mint was so "vague" in their reply posted here earlier.

"The National Mint of Romania will never recognize the essay as being minted al NMR. Of course, the tombac essay was indeed minted at NMR, with the original dies.
There is a dark story around any essay and pattern minted until 2005. The popular belief among Romanian collectors is that some people working at the Mint have used the original dies for strucking "essays". Aluminum and tombac were the metals used. Nobody know how many pieces were struck "officially" and how many were phony. Some essays were smuggled outside the mint and sold to collectors. After 2005 (in 2005 it was a scandal regarding the Mint, some people were dismissed) there are no off-metal essays known on the market.
Please note that NMR never officially sold essays or patterns to the collectors!

Some sellers pretend to know the essays mintage figures: 10 pieces.

Well, that just makes their existence even more interesting.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on February 16, 2011, 05:44:05 PM
At-least your getting answers. If you try the same thing with any of the Indian mints, you will either will not get any reply or a reply saying: 'We are sorry but we can not disclose mintage figures for security reasons'  ::)

Aditya
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 16, 2011, 07:18:40 PM
Hi, Aditya.

Wow...so much secrecy. I'm not sure I understand why, but it sure makes the coins so much more "mysterious". I have visions of some mint employee, dressed all in black, deactivating the safety alarms at 3:00 in the morning and minting a few "coins". Hmmmm...I wonder if they take custom orders??

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on February 16, 2011, 10:54:42 PM
Yes, "private initiative" producing oddities with original dies has happened before. Also, not all governments are above using original dies to produce restrikes. Some examples:

These are problems for collectors, but also a fact of life. Research and spreading knowledge is the only answer, but as a teacher, you will know how difficult it is to convince people of an unpopular truth.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 17, 2011, 06:03:30 PM

Hello, everyone.

Below are 2 new additions to the music collection that arrived yesterday/ Erasmus (1435-1536)wrote a great deal about music in his times and was quite influential in that regard.

J.A. Komensky (1592-1670) felt that music should be a part of every child's education...very progressive for the time and I couldn't agree with him more strongly. As a teacher, grades K-12 for 35 years or so, I SAW firsthand how music incoorporated into the classroom halps children develop their social, physical, intellectual skills and even their emotional development. Fascinating stuff.  I still teach piano privately and get an occasional special needs pupil...music really herlps these kids in so many ways. Komensky was way ahead of his time in his thinking.

Christian, thanks for the heads up on the Prague Music Academy coin. I am joining the mailing list so I can "pre-order".

Peter, have you been to see the bells in the tomb of marqui YI? One of my life goals is to get to Tibet, and the bells would make an interesting side trip...though I never considered Tibet as part of China...and never will. 

Have a great day/evening, everyone.  Alan in Massachusetts

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on February 17, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
Yes, I saw the bells. They were not in the tomb but in a museum in Wuhan. They were not as nicely set up as today, with a reconstruction of the wooden frames, but impressive enough.

As a piano teacher, you may like these two pieces, issued in Brasil for the centennial of Ary Barroso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ary_Barroso). Would you have expected a caricature in metal?

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on February 28, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
A Polish 2 Zloty coin showing portrait of Krzysztof Komeda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Komeda).

Image (from bank's website)

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I'm sure Alan must have got this one :D

Aditya
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on February 28, 2011, 03:10:58 PM
Another Polish coin showing Czesław Niemen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czes%C5%82aw_Niemen).

Image:

(http://www.nbp.pl/banknoty_i_monety/monety_okolicznosciowe/2009/2009_06___czeslaw_niemen_2zl_rewers.jpg)

Seems that Poland has a series based on this theme.  :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 19, 2011, 10:11:40 PM
Well, today held a complete surprise for me in the mail box. About 5 months ago I ordered a coin from Moldova and since it was such a long time, it went off E-Bay's radar, and mine. To be honest, I completely forgot about it (I have since created a record keeping system to remedy THAT problem!!) but today...there it was, in a tattered envelope, taped multiple times, my address barely legible...from Moldova. I had to sign for it even so obviously the P.O. didn't let it slip like I did. Stefan Neaga, composer from Moldova. I am going to have to do some research about this composer as there seems to be very little about him on the net and no mention of him in "Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians". When I have time to edit and make the "true size" I will submit photos to George as there is no photo for this coin on Numismaster. 
I hope this note finds everyone well!!
Alan in Massachusetts
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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on April 23, 2011, 02:58:34 AM
Ah yes...2 of my most difficult acquisitions. I'm not quite sure, but the one on the left, if you found it on Romainiacoins.com, is MY contribution to that site. The story came up here before (because I brought it up) but the coin on the right, silver, is a legitimate issue. The one on the left, made of TOMBAC, has a curious and mysterious background because supposedly it was never minted. Possibly mint officials playing around?? Anyway, there are estimated to be 15 or so known, and my efforts to get the "real story" have not been successful. When i wrote the Romanian mint, i received a rather surprising reply that they did not authorize their minting and that it should never have left the mint. A trial strike? Now, other Romanian sets have been issued with a gold, silver and tombac strike but the tombac one below (is it Emenescu or Porembescu...I'm too tired to go check) is a head scratcher. Not a terribly expensive piece...either the silver or Tombac...low demand I guess...but hard as heck to find...I believe there is one on E-Bay (silver) now but already have it.

Would love details if anyone can help.

Alan   Massachusetts 
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on June 16, 2011, 12:59:30 AM
Hello, everyone. Alan from Massachusetts here...been out of the collecting mode for a bit what with students, planning the cruise and day trips, baby showers, shopping for gifts....but have stuck my toe in again for a brief respite until we leave in a couple of weeks for Northern Europe.

I received a "coin" today for the music collection dated 2006, commemorating the 25th anniversary of tghe passing of John Lennon. The obverse (I think) shows "Cook Islands.Commemoration.Elizabeth ll" and a small bust at top with a large sun like figure in the middle. The reverse has a bust of John Lennon 1940-1980. There is no denomination. I purchased this as a "coin" but I am wondering if it is just a commemorative medal. They are readily seen on E-Bay. Mine is silver.

One long sought acquisition was ordered yesterday, the Sir Edward Elgar 2007 1 ounce silver Proof 5 pounds of Alderny. Been hunting for this one for a while. It isn't in World Coins 2011 5th edition.

No luck on the 1989 Tonga KM-160, 1 Pa'anga...10,000 minted. I wonder where they all are. I have written the Tonga National Bank, a couple of tourist shops and quite by accident, a Tonga tourist bureau who said that no coins like that were ever minted. A request somehow made it to an office in the Royal Palace. VERY kind and helpful people...but no luck. Oh well...

All the best.   Alan in Massachusetts 
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on June 16, 2011, 01:30:58 AM
It seems like you bought yourself a medal. In contrast with the Elgar pieces, it is not listed in Numismaster (the online equivalent of the Standard Catalog of World Coins). On the Tonga piece, the confusion may have been caused by the fact that the thing is dated 1993, not 1989.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on June 16, 2011, 03:37:42 AM
Hi, Peter.

You're right. 1993 it is for the Tonga coin. I mixed it up with another elusive piece that is driving me CRAZY!!! Thanks for correcting me. Gee...maybe someone will find one in pocket change now and mail it to me???  ::)

Alan


Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on July 29, 2011, 08:28:07 PM
I hit a bit of a good buy on the Silver Proof Lohn Lennon coin for my music coin set. It arrived today after excellent 5 day service and a surprisingly low winning bid of $80 for the silver proof version. I'm rather pleased.

Today, though way out of budget, I am looking at the 1000 Schilling gold coins from Austria featuring Mozart and Schubert. They are available from European dealers for maybe 10% above melt. I am trying to justify an approximate $900 "investment" for a coin I need that would melt at about $825 minus fees. I've been saving my piano lesson money and might just go for both of them, Austria KM-2999
and KM-3008. This would complete my Austrian music/musician set with the exception of KM 3021 500 schillings Strauss silver. Anyone have one of those they would like to sell/trade for? (Ooops...different topic I think).

I think I was supposed to be born rich but somehow got mixed up at birth.

Alan in MA
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on August 09, 2011, 05:34:42 PM
Hello, everyone. I wanted to share my 2 latest additions to the "Composer" collection with you. Just 1 more Austrian gold musician coin to go and I will have them all...took about 4 years to finance that! and 1 more silver 500 schilling piece (Strauss KM-3021) and that series will be complete too. I am not sure whether to include Maria Theresa in the music collection (Patron) but at least she isn't a composer...I think...The price of the gold 1000 schilling was just slightly above gold content ($1650 at the time of purchase)...hope I can get the last one (Mozart 1000 Schilling magic Flute KM-2999) in a few months....if gold comes down back to Earth.  Alan in Massachusetts


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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on September 17, 2011, 09:44:39 PM
Hello, everyone.

Another search has reached an end. This coin, Richard Strauss, arrived today. I believe this coin completes the silver composer/music coins from Austria...unless I include Maria Theresa who was a big Music supporter (patron?)...I have to do some more reading on her...I have several "Thaler restrikes" but don't have the more recent Austria schilling Theresa coins...2 gold coins to go and the entire Austria music set is done...problem.is ...they are too expensive now.  Alan  MA   

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on September 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
Congratulations, Alan. As for gold and silver prices, nothing is forever...

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 03, 2011, 01:35:31 AM
I'm on a winning streak, "as they say at the casinos"...I HATE gambling...but the saying is accurate as far as adding to my music collection.

In 1 week, I have landed 3 coins for my music set, Kazakhstan KM-56,
Austria KM-2949 (Maria Theresa was a great patron of music and a bit of a musician herself)
and after about a 5 year search, a 25 francs featuring Mozart from Congo. This was a bit of a controversial purchase for me as the "coin" is acrillyc. (Did I spell that right?) It is about as big as a dinner plate and I believe has a mintage of 100 pieces. It is not listed in SCWCs so I'm not sure. I found it by searching for the piece on a whim, found an old E-Bay listing on Google where the item didn't sell, wrote the owner in Bulgaria and struck a deal for about 30% less than his asking price (my max price). Not cheap...but after 5 years...I had pretty much given up so I jumped. I wish I would have some luck with the Tonga KM-160 with Wagner...but that is a dead end I think. 

Anyway, putting the Congo coin in my albums will be a bit of a challenge. I don't think it will fit in a 2x2 holder. I'll send a scan when it arrives. ;D  Alan   MA
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on October 07, 2011, 05:42:26 PM
Congratulations, Alan. Only a collector knows what it's like to end a hunt successfully. A piece as large as a dinner plate must be ... uhhh ... striking? ;) However, it is smaller than the manhole covers (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9730.0.html) we have had so much fun with, so it clearly must be a fun piece also. Any chance of posting a picture?

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 07, 2011, 06:13:21 PM
Hi, Figleaf.

I'm like a proud grandpa just waiting for the "man hole cover" to arrive from Bulgaria. It might take a while but I will most definitely post scans when it arrives. This is the culmination of about a 5 year search, when I first saw one offered on E-Bay. Ironically, this is the very piece that didn't sell on the auction so I contacted the seller, made an offer. He still had the piece and was very accomodating at accepting a fair offer. (I wish the gold dealers were as accomodating....sigh... :'(  ) I have no idea how to display it...perhaps in a frame? It' won't fit in a notebook, that's for sure.

Yesterday I received the 50 Schilling Maria Theresa Austria KM-2949 which surprisingly had very little bid activity. I can post scans if there is any interest.

I think I am going to refine the music collecting to composers, instruments and famous performers. It's too much including opera houses/theaters (though I have quite a few beatiful pieces), National heros for whom music has been written, famous poets who have had their works set to music by composers, "musically connected prominant people"...patrons...and the like)  and such. Refine the collecting for now and branch out later. It's too spread out and there are hundreds of coins at this point, as well as a decent start on paper money of composers. Can't do it all.
I like to think that it is one of the best music collections anywhere...but since there are so few collectors, that isn't a big deal. Screen is hopping...better stop.   ALan











Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 12, 2011, 07:31:18 PM
Well, after 5 years of searching, the 25 francs Congo acryllic "coin" arrived today. It is about 5 1/2" in diameter, 3/4/inches thick and about 2 pounds 1.7 ounces. Rather a large piece. Now the qustion is how am I going to put it in an album??? Anyway, this is the end of a 5 year hunt. I am very happy with the coin (and the price). Komeda (Polish coin, connected to Polish film and Muisc, and Maria Theresa, music Patron), will fit nicely into the collection. Still waiting for 1 from Kazakhstan. Sorry the mozart image is so faint. The coin is clear acryllic and I didn't know how to bring out the features.

Alan   Massachusetts

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: andyg on October 12, 2011, 08:00:41 PM
Alan - what happens if you reduce the contrast when you scan the coin?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 12, 2011, 08:50:50 PM
Experimented a bit with increasing contrast and brightness helped a bit...not great...but better...decreasing contrast made it fainter.

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Alan   Massachusetts...the NON photographer!
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 12, 2011, 08:54:50 PM
One more try...then bck to cleaning the garage
 
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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 29, 2011, 11:49:55 AM
The Perth Mint issued a "Composers" series in the name of Tuvalu. May be interesting ... or not.
http://www.perthmint.com.au/search.aspx?SearchKeyword=composers

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on October 29, 2011, 04:48:26 PM
Does this relieve your frustration?

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 30, 2011, 01:20:11 AM
Chrisild and Figleaf.

Thanks for the notes. I do have the whole set of Tuvalu composer coins. They are nice...but I must admit that when a country comes out with a series, I find it somewhat frustrating because there is so much waiting between issues...and they were a bit pricy except for 1 where I got an excellent price on on E-Bay. Thanks for keeping me in mind.

Figleaf, nice job improving my photo of the Mozart coin from the Congo. I still don't quite know how to display it...but it makes one hell of a paperweight!

Alan    MA
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 08, 2011, 11:28:06 AM
Poland just issued a "composers" coin today - or rather two. That is, two coins with two composers each. :) The coins honor Jeremi Przybora (1915-2004) and Jerzy Wasowski (1913-1984). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremi_Przybora (and the external link there). The obverse of the Nordic Gold coin is the common one for the 2 zl pieces, with the eagle, country name, denomination, etc.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: translateltd on December 08, 2011, 01:03:23 PM
Mendelssohn, mentioned earlier but not shown, I don't think,



and also that famous organist and biographer of Bach (I have it on my shelf, still unread), Albert Schweitzer


and also Hildegard of Bingen

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 13, 2011, 06:37:24 PM
Chrislid.

THANKS!!!! Been away in our Florida house for a couple of weeks...haven't had a chance to check e-mail so I appreciate the info very much!!!! Thanks for keeping me in mind and for being so thoughtful!!

Alan...back to the cold reality of Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 13, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
Translateld.

Many thanks. I have the first 2, but von Bingen escaped my attention. Guess I have a little reading to do and maybe a bit of searching. THANKS!!!!! Appreciate you're remembering my music coin addiction.

Alan   MA
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: translateltd on December 14, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Translateld.

Many thanks. I have the fiorst 2, but von Bingen escaped my attention. Guess I have a little reading to do and maybe a bit of searching. THANKS!!!!! Appreciate you're remembering my music coin addiction.

Alan   MA

I still have the Hildegard coin - PM me if interested (no obligation ...)

Cheers,

Martin
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: izotz on December 14, 2011, 11:41:44 PM
I enjoy a lot with this thread.

I think you didn't mention this before :

Ukraine 2 Hryvni.
Volodymyr Ivasiuk : composer, poet, singer, one of the pioneers of Ukrainian pop music
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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on December 15, 2011, 04:32:52 PM
Is this the only coin devoted to a pop musician?

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 15, 2011, 04:59:33 PM
Hi, Peter. Actually no. Poland has honored a few contemporary musicians. I have some of the coins and will send info when I have a moment. Just headed out for a zillion errands.

Many countries have coins for "popular" musicians, Presley, Michael Jackson among others...the BeeGees and again, I'll search my "Performer/musicians" sub sub sub category of my collection for others. I believe there are a few.

Alan   MA
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 23, 2011, 06:33:41 PM
Hello, Figleaf, and everyone, and depending on your faith, Happy Holidays to one and all.

Peter, I have finally gotten to your question about "contempory" musicians. Sorry it took so long. Actually between the Florida trip and an unexpected MASS of work for a friend, I haven't been free to do much of anything. The "work" involved evaluating and listing a large collection of coins and notes for sale on E-Bay, listing them, (selling most!) keeping meticulous records, (which I HATE doing...) I have been a very busy boy! I thought I retired...I LOVE the work. Very much fun and almost done! I am going to have to find another sweet little old lady who has coins...because other than Boston, I can't recommend ANYONE local to them to get an honest appraisal and offer.

Anyway, back to comtemporary popular musicians. well, I'm not sure what "popular" means...I will assume it is "non-classical" music for the regular guy. Well, I found several composers/performers in my collection (I call them all "Famous Performers", and here they are:

Egypt, Abdal Halem Hafez
Kazakhstan, Janbyl Jabeyev
Sierra Leone, Michael Jackson  to be continued in next post...I don't feel like dealing with the famous jumping screen.  Alan in Massachusetts

Egypt,
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 23, 2011, 06:51:21 PM
Hello again. Here are a few more contemporary musicians/performers I have in my collection:
Egypt, Omm Kalsoum
Alderny, John Lennon
U.S.A., Glen Miller
Poland, Nieman Czeslaw
Gibralter, Elvis Presley
Ukraine, Anatoly Solovianenko
Egypt, Mohaed Abdel Wahab
Jamaica, Robert Marley (This coin has a bit of a "MAN WAS I LUCKY" story. I'll share momentarily.
Isle of Man, The Bee Gees.
The last 2 I had to look up in SCWC because I think they are in my "composer" collection instead of the "famous performer" collection. Gasp! That means...shock and disgust, The BeeGees must be next to BEETHOVEN And Robert Marley must be right in there with MOZART! I will have to correct THAT outlandish error post haste! (or in U.S. lingo..."wicked fast"). Poor Beethoven and Mozart...sitting next to "those commoners". :>)  Oh, I am on the trail of another Polish piece or 2 newly minted...and by "popular", I have gone as far back as the 1950's for a few of these contemporaty perormers.

Again, regardless of faith, best wishes for the holidays and the New Year for those that observe holidays.   Alan Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Prosit on December 23, 2011, 07:02:46 PM
U.S.A., Glen Miller

Oh yeah!  Gotta love swing!  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3K5uB-wMA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3K5uB-wMA)

Dale
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 23, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
This may or may not be of interest, but what the heck...I have some free time and I said I would tell it. No snoring please!

I discovered the Robert Marley coins a few years back and put one example on my "hope to get" list for my Music Cons Collection. Anyway, I found outlandishly priced certified examples of KM 171 and KM 172 was also out of my budget with over 1/2 ounce gold. So, I figured I would contact the people in Jamaica (Bank of Jamaica?) and see if they had any of the KM 171 kicking around. Well, they did, but also said they had a few KM-172. So I did the math and realized that they were selling the KM172 at less than gold content (at that time around $400 or so) so I splurged and went for the gold. So glad I did...but also kicking myself for not buying all of them! Anyway, KM 171 still eludes me (as does KM 161 which has a drummer on the reverse...for my musical instruments coin set). Ah yes...the bargains that got away...but sometimes I'm in the right place at the right time.

Gee, I would like to read some "right time, right place bargain stories" here as to how unaffordable coins wound up in collections simply by good luck.  Guess that would be a different topic.  Alan   Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on December 23, 2011, 07:36:06 PM
I hope the gold price matters little to you and the picture on the coin does. Thinking that the current price means anything is taking the wild gyrations of the market for reality. Marley fits in your collection. That's pretty real. Or you could look at it this way: if you would have bought the whole lot, you, or the buyer would have melted them...

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 23, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
Hi, Dale.

Swing????  SWING???!!! Surely you mean Sonata, Suite, Symphony...surely you jest!   :>)

Actually I am a bit of a "Swing" and Blues fan, though I am classically trained and definitely lean that way in my composing...

I tried to listen to the example you sent but every time I try to open up a video on Youtube, lhe little spinny thing on the screen freezes up the whole computer and I have to reboot.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 23, 2011, 07:47:24 PM
Yes, It was Marley that I was after...it was just such an amazing opportunity to pad the portfolio (My planner believes in sole "Tangible gold" holdings") that I let slip. Well, the Marley coin is a beauty and without that opportunity, I probably still wouldn't have it in my collection.

Oh, I finally broke down and bought Austria KM 3006, 1000 Schillings, hoping to take advantage of the lower gold price and the foreign exchange changes...but it went the other way. Can't quite figure it out but figured that I had better order the coin when I saw one available. MA-shop.com gets my business again. I am waiting for it now, leaving only 1 Austria coin I need to complete having all the music related issues of Austria, KM 2999.

Alan   Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: andyg on December 23, 2011, 09:18:26 PM
Hi, Dale.

Swing????  SWING???!!! Surely you mean Sonata, Suite, Symphony...surely you jest!   :>)

Actually I am a bit of a "Swing" and Blues fan, though I am classically trained and definitely lean that way in my composing...

I tried to listen to the example you sent but every time I try to open up a video on Youtube, lhe little spinny thing on the screen freezes up the whole computer and I have to reboot.

Always liked this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ZSQUyU00s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ZSQUyU00s)
The brass arrangement of this (Mark Freeh) is damn tricky to play!
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Prosit on December 23, 2011, 09:33:56 PM
Yeah it is excellent!
Dale

Always liked this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ZSQUyU00s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ZSQUyU00s)
The brass arrangement of this (Mark Freeh) is damn tricky to play!
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Prosit on December 23, 2011, 10:22:34 PM
Classical ....Sonata, Suite, Symphony.....hummmm  oh you mean like really really old, white powdered wig type stuff    >:D

Actually I like all genres just some more than others.

Dale



Hi, Dale.

Swing????  SWING???!!! Surely you mean Sonata, Suite, Symphony...surely you jest!   :>)

Actually I am a bit of a "Swing" and Blues fan, though I am classically trained and definitely lean that way in my composing...

I tried to listen to the example you sent but every time I try to open up a video on Youtube, lhe little spinny thing on the screen freezes up the whole computer and I have to reboot.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 29, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Well, what about Django Reinhardt? Belgium issued a €10 collector coin last year, to honor his 100th birthday (or should I write, the 100th anniversary of his birth?), and while I don't particularly like the design (http://www.emuenzen.de/verkauf/bild.php/_Belgien_10_Euro_Django_Reinhardt_farbig_inkl._Originaletui_und_Zertifikat__2010_PP__EURO_-_Gedenkmuenzen+10b102.jpg), his music is a great mix of jazz and "gypsy" music.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 29, 2011, 04:41:56 PM
Hi, Christian. Thanks!!! It's a good thing I have coin friends to help keep me informed of the new issues. Many thanks.

Happy New Year.  Alan   MA
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 30, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
Hello, everyone and once again...Happy New Year.

for my musician collection, I am looking for a bit of help from someone. I have a new acquisition from Poland, 10 Zlotych 2005 featuring Mikolaja Rej. I have documented that he is a MUSICIAN, but I am trying to find out WHAT TYPE of musician. I know he was an author/poet amongst other things, but does anyone know his musical connections? Composer, performer, set literature to music or had his work SET to music by another composer...?

Would be most grateful for some guidelines on this one. Many thanks!!   Alan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: andyg on December 30, 2011, 10:29:22 PM
I presume it's this fellow,
courtesy of Wikipedia and Google translate,
Mikolaj Rej  (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpl.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMiko%25C5%2582aj_Rej)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 31, 2011, 12:35:34 AM
Hello andyg and thanks once again for the assistance. Yes, this is the dude. I was able to find only a brief reference; "...was a leading Polish Poet and Prose writer of the Renaissance, as well as a politician and MUSICIAN". Well...I may have to pull out the "big guns" and contact a friend who sends me an occasional coin. She lives in Warsaw and maybe can get some information for me. I hate to put him in the collection under ",miscellaneous". I only have 1 "miscellaneous" coin...a ballet coin from Russia which I guess is "kind of" music related. It's pushing the limits, however...and anyway...Russia and earlier, the U.S.S.R. minted a zillion Ballet related coins. I just don't want to go down that road. So, the research continues.

Many thanks.  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: translateltd on December 31, 2011, 12:44:59 AM
Something that we (and certain cataloguers) can overlook is that personal names undergo grammatical changes in the Slavic languages in particular, so "Mikolaja Reja" as it appears on the coin means "of Mikolaj Rej".  The spelling changes can slow the search process down sometimes.

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 31, 2011, 11:01:03 AM
Reminds me of an episode that Steffen Möller wrote about in his "Viva Polonia" book. (He is a writer and actor who moved to Poland, almost out of sheer curiosity, when he was 25.) One of the first oddities he noticed was a poster advertising a classical music festival which mentioned somebody named "Ludwiga van Beethovena". Hmm, a cleverly picked pseudonym of a woman?

A little later he saw a monument that honors "Adamowi Mickiewiczowi Naród". Yeah, reminded him of Adam Mickiewicz, but ... some guy from some Naród family maybe, with the famous poet's name as his first and middle name? Nah, turned out it is much easier, and yet complicated: The text means "The People (or Nation) to Adam Mickiewicz". In many other languages a name remains unaltered even in a "genitive" or "dative" sense, but as you wrote, that does not apply everywhere. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: andyg on December 31, 2011, 11:20:05 AM
Hello andyg and thanks once again for the assistance. Yes, this is the dude. I was able to find only a brief reference; "...was a leading Polish Poet and Prose writer of the Renaissance, as well as a politician and MUSICIAN". Well...I may have to pull out the "big guns" and contact a friend who sends me an occasional coin. She lives in Warsaw and maybe can get some information for me. I hate to put him in the collection under ",miscellaneous". I only have 1 "miscellaneous" coin...a ballet coin from Russia which I guess is "kind of" music related. It's pushing the limits, however...and anyway...Russia and earlier, the U.S.S.R. minted a zillion Ballet related coins. I just don't want to go down that road. So, the research continues.

Many thanks.  Alan

Nowhere on the Polish wikipedia I linked to above does it say he was a musician, rather a poet - it's still a nice coin though!
Perhaps you need a section on poets? :)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on December 31, 2011, 11:36:14 AM
Guess that "back then" (Renaissance) there were more famous polymaths than these days. ;) Apparently his works "cover" theology, politics, poetry, and more - including some music:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikołaj_Rej
http://en.vionto.com/show/me/Mikołaj+Rej

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on December 31, 2011, 07:53:03 PM
andyg and chrisild translateld ...and others. Mikolaja Meja remains a bit of a mystery. I'll write to my Piano teacher friend in Warsaw...(very proud and knowledgable about Poland's musical heritage...and see if she can help). If I learn anything, I'll post. Your replies are most appreciated. I had to look up the term "polymath", and remember that I have been in this situation on many occasions with lesser known European "musicians" from far earlier times. Many were "polymaths" too; poets, politicans, performers and  composers and the like...it is hard to determine in which category their coins should be included in the "Music Coin Collection". Add to that the variations in name spelling as mentioned here in another post, the Cyrillic alphabet, finding out HOW some of these historic people were music related is indeed a challenge. That is part of the fun. I have coins with some very obscure music connections....but again...the challenge is finding out the connection...and often...finding the coin is also a challenge.
There is a terrific wealth of knowledge on this board, and I thank everyone for the assistance you offer!

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: <k> on January 01, 2012, 12:21:32 AM
2007 San Marino 5 Euro Arturo Toscanini Coin.

(http://www.vaticancoins.com/media/images/products/photos/2007sm5euro1.jpg)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on June 09, 2012, 09:39:19 PM
 :) Hello, everyone. This piece arrived from Germany last Thursday. I have completed the music coins of Austria set! Heck...it only took about 30 years (with many diversions during that time of course!) Alan in Massachusetts


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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on July 15, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
Hello all.

May I ask for a tiny bit of help from you experts out there. I have checked SCWCs and Numismaster (the "Find my Coin" feature seems to be "on the fritz") looking for a KM number and mintage if available for a new aqusition. Would anyone kindly be able to help me find this information on a 2007 Ivory Coast 1500 Franc Gold coin minted in 2007? It features Frederic Chopin.

Thanks very much.

Alan in steamy Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 16, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
Have not found that info in the Schön which, for most coins, lists the KM number too. The NGC Guide (http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/World-Coin-Price-Guide.aspx), which uses the Krause data, does not list it either.

The Schön number is 36, and it says the piece is Au999, 1 g, Ø 13.92 mm. No mintage info, sorry.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on July 16, 2012, 05:33:36 PM
Hello, and thanks, Christian.

Appreciate the help. I guess it's another "unlisted'. I have quite a few...someday I'll submit them...but in previous efforts, I wasn't able to get "true size" scans.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on September 17, 2012, 02:55:53 AM
Hello all. Here is a bit of a challenge for all those who are familiar with Russian culture and entertainment. I am trying to find out how A.I Raykin is connected to music. I found a few references but no explanations. Would anyone have any idea about this and if so, I woulod very much appreciate your thoughts. I discovered this evening that Russia issued a Commemorative 2 Rouble coin in 2011 honoring Raykin's 100th birthday, but I can't seem to establish the musical link before I try to locate the coin for my music coin colelction.

Many thanks.  Alan in Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 17, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
The central bank, in its description of that coin, refers to him as an actor: http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/base_of_memorable_coins/pdf/5110-0110.pdf And this Wikipedia article about Raikin mentions he was a comedian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_Raikin but says something about musical comedy somewhere. Guess that is as close to music as its gets ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 14, 2012, 02:38:08 AM
Hello, Christian.

I think I have ruled out Raikin as a "music coin". Thank you for your research and I also was unsuccessful in finding a link other than comedy. HOWEVER, I did stumble on a composer coin from Belarus that I was unfamiliar with until tonight. It is unlisted in SCWC nor on Numismaster. It was minted by Belarus in 2011 and honors Michal Kleofas Oginski.  From wikipedia, "Ogiński was born in Guzów, Żyrardów County (near Warsaw)[1] in the Polish Kingdom (part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth). His father Andrius was Lithuanian nobleman and governor of Trakai, in Lithuania; his mother, Paula Paulina Szembek (1740–1797), was a daughter of the Polish magnate, Marek Szembek whose ancestors were Austrians and Yadviga Rudnicka who was of polonised Lithuanian descent (family name's root is of Lithuanian origin and the suffix indicates polonisation of her family name).[citation needed]
 
Taught at home, young Ogiński excelled especially at music and foreign languages. He studied under Józef Kozłowski, and later took violin lessons from Viotti and Baillot.[1]
 
Ogiński served as an adviser to King Stanisław August Poniatowski and supported him during the Great Sejm of 1788–1792.[9] After 1790, he was dispatched to Hague as a diplomatic representative of Poland in the Netherlands[10][11] and was Polish agent in Constantinople and Paris.[8] In 1793, he was nominated to the office of the Treasurer in Lithuania.[8][9] During Kościuszko Uprising in 1794, Ogiński commanded his own unit.[12] After the insurrection was suppressed, he emigrated to France, where he sought Napoleon's support for the Polish cause.[9] At that period he saw a creation of the Duchy of Warsaw by the Emperor as a stepping stone to eventual full independence of Poland, and dedicated his only opera, Zelis et Valcour, to Napoleon.[13] In 1810, Ogiński withdrew from political activity in exile[8] and disappointed with Napoleon[14] returned to Vilna. Andrzej Jerzy Czartoryski introduced him to Tsar Alexander I, who made Ogiński a Russian Senator. Ogiński tried in vain to convince the Tsar to rebuild the Polish State. He moved abroad in 1815 and died in 1833 in Florence.[9]
 
As a composer, he is best known for his polonaise Pożegnanie Ojczyzny (Farewell to Country),[2] written on the occasion of his emigration to western Europe after the failure of the Kościuszko Uprising.[12][15]"

Rather an interesting life. Now I need to track down the "Pożegnanie Ojczyzny (Farewell to Country)". A music coin collector's life is never dull.

Alan in Massachusetts.   Oh...I ordered the coin as well. (http://imageshack.us/a/img593/2641/belarusn.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/belarusn.png/)

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 19, 2012, 03:12:36 AM
Hello, everyone. In looking through my lists of composer coins I don't as yet have, I came across the 2007 Swiss 20 Franc coin commemorating the National Bank of Switzerland with Authur Honegger the composer featured prominantly on the coin. I'm confused. Is there a relationship between Honegger and the National Bank of Switzerland? For whatever reason the coin exists, it seems to be quite elusive so if anyone out there has one (Proof preferred) I'd be interested in talking with you for a possible trade or purchase. (Oooops...should this be in the "wanted" section?)

It's interesting how composers are slapped on coins by many countries that have nothing to DO with the composer. My collection consists of  MANY of these. Since the years of issue often correspond to birth/death years, 200th birthday, 200 years after death and the like, I guess composers that left a worldwide impact can be recognized by any nation...but... Bach by Andorra and Cuba, Beethoven by Cuba, Liberia (who issued a coin for virtually anything or anyone breathing...or not), North Korea and Paraguay, Chopin by the Ivory Coast, Mongolia and Niue Island (There is supposed to be a $2 Chopin coin from Niue...but I sure as heck can't find one...but I did JUST find KM381 and 382, honoring RUSSIAN musicians) , ...and on and on and on....These are just a few examples of coins issued by non-related nations for famous composers. In a way, it is fascinating to try (and usually fail) to establish a connection between composer and country. The Mozart Benin coin(s) really have me scratching my head...though I only have 1 of the 2 issued. Much of the fun is in the hunt and discovery of new pieces (or not current ones that were missed...like the 2010 Niue Island Russian Composers coins...I don't know who the composers are...but it will be fun researching the coins...and hunting for them)

Well, this post is "diverse" in subjects presented. I'd better end it.

Be well, everyone.   Alan   Massachusetts    (now hunting Niue on E-Bay) 
 
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on October 19, 2012, 11:52:43 AM
Alan, I hate to break it to you, but these "coins" are made especially for people like you. When you go into a department store, you will immediately find yourself in the perfume and leather handbag department. Visit a bookshop and the first thing you see is books on cats, dogs and cooking. Never look for the fish, vegetables and meat near the entrance of a big supermarket. Similarly, on pseudo coins, the subject is big, the denomination and country of issue tiny. Makes sense, since they are not relevant.

Marketeers have analysed all our interests. Music is just one of them, royalty and small birdies are mainly for females; tennis, cartoon and fantasy figures, soccer and car racing for males. Christmas and vintage cars are for doting granddads. The Chinese horoscope is for Asians. Historic heroes, scientist and discoverers for the blasted intellectuals. All these themes are richly represented on pseudo coins, always subject up ahead with the rest of the design built around it. The issue is not how many pictures you can put in metal, but how many countries are willing to put their name on the picture (not enough, hence pseudo-countries).

I am not begrudging you your interest, just telling you that what you collect should not be judged by the standards of circulating money, because it isn't.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 19, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
In looking through my lists of composer coins I don't as yet have, I came across the 2007 Swiss 20 Franc coin commemorating the National Bank of Switzerland with Authur Honegger the composer featured prominantly on the coin. I'm confused. Is there a relationship between Honegger and the National Bank of Switzerland?

Once you start collecting bank notes with composers on them, you will find out. 8) Arthur Honegger is depicted on the current 20 CHF note (http://www.snb.ch/static/j/cash-widget/assets/historical/8/20/front.jpg). So the designer of the coin, Roger Pfund, picked one detail of that note and used it for the 20 CHF coin (http://www.swissmint.ch/d/dokumentation/images/gedenkmuenzen/20_silber/2007nationalbank_silber.jpg). See my earlier post (reply #77 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,2590.msg94035.html#msg94035)) here.

And while I'm at it ... in a similar way, the 50 CHF gold coin (http://www.swissmint.ch/d/dokumentation/images/gedenkmuenzen/50_gold/2007nationalbank_gold.jpg) issued on the same occasion uses part of an old 50 CHF note (http://www.swissinfo.ch/media/cms/images/null/2007/02/sriimg20070222_7553577_0.jpg). Ferdinand Hodler was not a composer though, so no need to buy that one. ;)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: paisepagal on October 19, 2012, 12:05:33 PM
I stay away from liberian, nieu and those sorts of 'coins'. I beleive one of them made a 9/11 coin too ?

But as far as figuring out the connection, it depends on you.....for instance India and Italy issued circulating coins honouring Louis braille, but France oddly did not ....where's the connection between India and Louis Braille ?...none really...except that his innovation has helped a few million of our citizens over here.... has beethoven inspired cubans in the same way ? Your call  :)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 19, 2012, 12:25:23 PM
for instance India and Italy issued circulating coins honouring Louis braille, but France oddly did not

Not quite that "oddly". ;)  The French mint issued two collector pieces for the 190th (now that could be considered odd) anniversary of Braille's birth; here is an image of the silver coin (http://images3.numishop.eu/images/moderne/fmd_180077.jpg). So I suppose they just did not want to issue yet another piece ten years later ...  But in 2009, Belgium issued a Braille commemorative coin. And even the US issued a collector coin on that occasion.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: izotz on October 19, 2012, 01:27:32 PM
I agree with you all about how many countries issue pseudo-coins with the only purpose of earning money. Maybe I understand some issues like the Braille ones, but not for those strange countries.

Did Bach ever go to Cuba?  ;D I can't find many connections between Bach and Cuba except perhaps this coin (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/display.php?image=img8/48-120&desc=Cuba%20km120%201%20Peso%201985%20Year%20of%20Music%20-%20Bach&query=Cuba) :
(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img8/48-120.jpg)
and some "special" music (Bach to Cuba) (http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/special/?ID=bach-to-cuba) :
(http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/cms/showimg.htms?ID=612bc64985317816f0a9eeeba17035c2)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on October 19, 2012, 02:39:25 PM
some "special" music (Bach to Cuba)

Close but no cigar. ;D

It will not be possible to draw a strict dividing line - "good" commems here, "bad" commems there. For example, around here, 1985 was the "European Year of Music" - that is why the German commem issued in that year shows a logo and, on the edge, the names Schütz, Bach, Händel, Scarlatti and Berg. In other countries, 1985 was apparently considered to be an "International Year of Music" - Cuba, Cambodia and a few others issued coins and/or stamps on that occasion. Why not?

Coins that I will almost always avoid are pieces that were created by numismatic agencies and then issued in the name (oops, by) some country that will put its name on the pieces and get a share of the revenue. Again, sometimes it may be difficult to find out what category an issue is in. When in doubt, I won't buy it. Exception: When I have my doubts but like the design, I may buy it ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 19, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
Wow, GREAT comments, guys. I guess it is rather hard to explain but my Music "coin" collecting is a marriage of my 2 passions, Piano/copmosition and coin collecting. Note I didn't call it "Numisatics" because I fully realize that the music coin hobby has very little to do with numismatics. My U.S.A. type set from 1793-1963 is very much the opposite. I devoted much study to that and have a decent library of references that I pour through from time to time to learn more. Unfortunately, THAT collection is at a standstill as what I need now is priced in high 4 figures or more...too pricy for me. I guess when I had to retire at 56 and was collecting on my disability insurance policies (Kidney transplant prohibited me from continuing to teach in a public school setting...too much risk of infection) I needed to find a more affordable way to continue collecting. Since I had already years ago started the music coin hobby, my interest exploded and it has since carried me through in an area I can afford. Need to keep the brain busy!! True, some of the coins (MANY in fact) have questionable "value" as legitimate coins, but if they meet my guidlines for inclusion (some don't) then I very much enjoy the hunt and hopefully the eventuall acquisition of the coin(s). Perhaps the most outlandish piece I hunted down for years was the 25 Francs of Mozart from the Congo. It is acrillyc and about the size of a dinner plate. Weighs a ton but I LOVE that damn stupid coin. problem is that I can't figure out a way to include it in an album!!!!

I have a secret fantasy that someday I will be permitted to display the collection somewhere...perhaps at a big international convention...or maybe just the large coin shows in Boston. It is a source of pride and to some degree, beauty.

For the many good poeple out there that have helped me locate coins in the past, first off, THANK YOU! I HAVE located the $2 Niue Chopin coin that I mentioned I couldn't find in my last post. I also found the 2 "Nuie Russian Musician" coins of 2010 and though they are performers, a sub category in my collection, they are low on the priority list.

One change to the collection, I have elected to terminate the sub category on "authors whose works were set to music by prominant composers" and I am thinking that the "Musically Affiliated People" may also "bite the dust" as we say here in the States:

Music Coins, Musically Affiliated Famous People

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
1 Switzerland  5 Francs  1979  KM-58  BU  902,000               

Desiderius Erasmus (1436-1566)
2. Netherlands  10 ECU  1991  X# 44a  BU  25,000               
3. Netherlands  2 Euro  2011  KM-__  BU  __         Unlisted         

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe  (1749-1832)
4. People’s Republic of China  10 Yuan  1991  KM-442  Proof  30,000      
5. Germany, Federal Republic  5 Marks  1982  KM-156  Proof  350,000      
6. Germany, Federal  Republic  10 Marks  1999G  KM-197  Proof  __      

Franz Grillparzer (1791-1872)
7. Austria  20 Schillings  1991  KM 2995.1  Unc. 463,000            
* Austria  25 Schilling  1964  KM-2895.1  Proof  35,000  LAST PAGE OF SECTION      

Johann Gottfried Herder (1744-1803)
8. Germany, Federal Republic  10 Marks  1994G  KM-184  Proof  450,000      

Josef Hlavka (1831-1908)
9. Czech republic  200 Korun  2008  KM-98  Proof  __               

Pieter Corneliszoon Hooft (1581-1647)
10. Netherlands  5 EURO  1997  X  #-132  BU  100,000             

Jan Amos Komensky (1592-1670)
11. Czechoslovakia  10 Korun  1957  KM-48  Proof  5,000            

Philipp Melanchthon (1497-1660)
12. Germany, Federal Republic  10 Marks  1997F  KM-189.1  Proof  150,000      

Zdenek Nejedly (1878-1972)
13. Czechoslovakia  50 Korun  1978  KM-90  Proof  5,000            

Arthur SchopenHauer  (1788-1860)
14. Germany, Federal Republic  10 Marks 1988D KM-168  Proof  350,000

Next Page in Album

Albert Schweitzer (1875-1965)
1. German Democratic Republic  10 Marks  1975  KM-56  BU  99,000      
2. Germany, Federal Republic  5 Marks  1975  KM-143  Proof  250,000      
3. Togo  100 Francs 2000 KM__  Proof __      Unlisted      


Stendhal (AKA Marie-Henri Beyle 1783-1842)
4. France  10 Francs  1983  KM-953  AU  2,951,000               

Maria Theresa (1770-1780)
5.  Austria  Thaler  !780 (Restrike)  KM-T1  Proof                 
6.  Austria  25 Schillings  1967  KM-2901  Proof  27,800            
7.  Austria  500 Schillings  1980  KM-2949  Proof?  171,600   

Sorry for the longwinded and probably very uninteresting post. I have to wait 2 hours after taking my meds before breakfast...and I was late this morning!

Have a terrific day/evening everyone.  Alan  Massachsetts         
      
 
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: izotz on October 22, 2012, 04:01:09 PM
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe  (1749-1832)
4. People’s Republic of China  10 Yuan  1991  KM-442  Proof  30,000      
5. Germany, Federal Republic  5 Marks  1982  KM-156  Proof  350,000      
6. Germany, Federal  Republic  10 Marks  1999G  KM-197  Proof  __      


I guess it is no use for you, but when we were in Frankfurt WoC meeting, there was a temporary exhibition in the Geld Museum :
Goethe Auf Geld (http://www.bundesbank.de/Redaktion/EN/Standardartikel/Bundesbank/Money_museum/goethe_auf_geld.html) (Goethe on money).

They had a nice book about it including many photos on. I think most of them were banknotes and Notgelds. Very interesting anyway.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 25, 2012, 01:01:47 AM
Hello, Izotz.

I did a bit of reading about Goethe and his influence on music, and his works set to music by famous composers. He also has some wonderful quotes about music, such as , "Mozart is the human incarnation of the divine force of creation", “A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul” ,  Architecture is frozen music" and I expect there are more.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on November 08, 2012, 07:57:44 PM
Thanks to the very kind people and much appreciated efforts of several people here on the boards, I received my long sought after TONGA KM-160 1993 1 Pa'Anga coin featuring Richard Wagner in today's mail. Needless to say, I am thrilled and so very appreciative of those who helped me in locating a dealer who had the coin in stock, helped with translations and offered in other ways to be of help, and for ordering the coin and sending it to me along with 4 others from the dealer's stock.

Someone once said here that half the fun is in the hunt for an elusive coin. Well, that may be true in 99% of instances, but in the case of the Tonga coin, the joy of POSSESSION is a terrific feeling. A 10 year hunt is at an end! My most sincere thanks to all involved in helping me to attain this long sought after goal of adding KM-160 to my composer set.

Alan  Massachusetts ...cold, snowy, windy and icy but I am as happy as a clam today!!!
:D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on November 21, 2012, 01:55:41 AM
One of the things that I really doing is sharing with online friends when I acquire what I call a "milestone coin". In the past 2 weeks or so, 2 "milestone coins" have been added to the Music Coin" collection. I am pleased to share with everyone here.

The Tonga KM-160 1 Pa'Anga  1993 coin features Richard Wagner. This coin was obtained with the much appreciated collaberation of several "World of Coins" readers. One helped locate the coin for me, one helped me with translations and a third actually ordered the coin (and several others) for me from Germany and shipped them to me here in the United States. How much I appreciate all those were so helpful in finally...after approximately 10 years..my obtaining the Wagner coin. Interestingly, I was in communication with several contacts in Tonga and no one knew of the existence of the coin. This included the Bank of Tonga, where current coins and special comemmoratives can be ordered directly from the bank (distributor).  They did not know of the coin's existance. I saw one once on E-Bay (an old listing still on the net) but of course, it was long sold. The 10 year hunt began. I find it interesting that the Bank of Tonga knows nothing about the piece, which has an "estimated" mintage of 10,000 pieces. I SERIOUSLY doubt that...or perhaps thousands were melted. I would LOVE to know where they all went. Does anyone have any research ability in this area? 

The second piece, Andorra KM-82 50 Diners Gold featuring Pablo Casals, also of 1993. Though not a composer, I have a sub category for famous performers, and Casals certainly qualifies! I never thought I would find this one, let alone actually OWN it. It has been in my "look for" notes for several years but as the price of gold skyrocked, chances got less and less that I would be able to add this one to the collection. In October 2012, I was just cruising through different coin sites and there it was...on auction.  Though I knew I had little chance of winning the bid, I submitted my best offer and by a pure miracle, I won the coin. It arrived yesterday!

So there are my 2 new "milestone coins" I hope you enjoy seeing them as much as I do owning them.

Best wishes from Alan in Massachusetts

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on November 21, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
Congratulations, Alan. On your exhibition dream, why not realise it yourself by making an ebook? Computers have made publishing easier than ever. You will need pictures of all the pieces you want to exhibit, atmosphere pictures, knowledge of a word processing programme (MS Word will do fine), knowledge of a picture manipulating programme (while photoshop will do very well, it is complicated; look at the poll here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,6846.0.html)) and lots of time.

I have ebooks of two of our members, proving that it can be done. Once that project is in a stage where it can be distributed (I guess it will never be quite finished), you can mail your ebook to anyone worthy, so they can, at any time, look at - as Moussorgski put it - pictures at an exhibition. ;)

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Prosit on November 21, 2012, 01:26:51 PM
MS Word is a possibility as is Publisher. Actually it can be done in Excel although I don't actually like that one at all for that type project.  And you can mix and match but that isn't optimal. Images in Word can pile up the Mb quickly (especially unedited/formated images) as it can in any program and one draw back of Word is inserting something in the middle after a work is partially complete.  That tends to push odd formating and breaks into the document in most pages following after the insertation page causing a lot of unnecesssary correction work. Haveing it planned from the begining is best.

I would suggest starting with a central dominating theme and creating stand alone major subsections as seperate documents to keep the Mb sizes manageble and editing to a minimum.  I would also suggest creating the outline first and creating the smallest subsection first.  That way you get to explore various formats, graphics and layout possibilities with a manageble sized document. Once you have figured out what you want to do with that small part then it is just follow the recipe for the rest. 

At the end it may be possible to combine sections into one document and compress it into a PDF and maybe still have a size suitable for email.

As "they" say about undertaking large projects, you can't swallow an elephant but take it one bite at a time and you actually can do the job ;)

Alan, If you wanted to start work with an outline, intro and a small subsection and I would be willing to help get you started and explore your concepts.

Dale



Congratulations, Alan. On your exhibition dream, why not realise it yourself by making an ebook?
......I have ebooks of two of our members, proving that it can be done. Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on January 04, 2013, 04:05:49 PM
Got this nice Austrian coin recently...I'm 500% sure Alan already has it? :) ;)

(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/AdityaKulkarni3/AT1-2_zpsc868c556.jpg)(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa337/AdityaKulkarni3/AT2-1_zps57643a5c.jpg)

Aditya
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on January 04, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
Austria is always a good place to check out when it comes to music on coins. :)  This year's piece, with the Waltz theme, is not composer related but may still be interesting. And then there are Germany's Richards - this year Wagner, next year Strauss ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on January 04, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
Hello, Christian and Aditya.

Always nice hearing from you and seeing that the Composers on Coins topic is still alive and well. I have a couple of new pieces...(been slowing down though) that I should post here. Still waiting for a $2 Nuie (Niue?) small Chopin gold coin that I ordered 3 months ago. They sent the $1 coin (which I already have). Anyway, we have been writing back and forth (they are in the Netherlands) and it seems as if there is no movement. I may have to file a formal complaint and seek recourse through my credit card. I'll keep you all posted.

Aditya, I do have the Mozart 5 Euro Mozart piece. I am quite proud that I have completed all the Austria composer coins except for some "music related" personalities. I could go nuts trying to get all the coins with Maria Theresa and some other "music related" people on them.  Won't try.

To everyone, I hope the new year has started out well and that you achieve some great coin collecting goals in 2013.

Still under the weather a bit from the Noro Virus on the cruise ship (they never told us that it was on board and as a kidney transplant recipient, this was risky.) Feeling well with just a few minor remaining symptoms. Needless to say, I'm beginning a "significant letter writing campaign", including government agencies, to change cruise ship policy of not advising of illness on board until the new passangers have boarded. Not good.

Best to everyone.   Alan in Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on February 04, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
Hope that the "Noro effects" are gone. :)  Today I saw a set of Chopin coins from Andorra (coins and from in inverted commas ...) but while you may already have those - they are dated 2009 - the "pack" that they come in may be new:

http://www.hse24.de/Basteln-Muenzen/Muenzen/Themen-Gedenkmuenzen/Jubilaeumskollektion-Frederic-Chopin-pu42280567.html

Eight 10 D pieces, partly colored, partly "swarovskied", and the box is a (grand) piano! Only €399, ahem ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 04, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
Hi, Christian.

It sure is great having so many nice fellow-collectors on the hunt for music coins for me. Thanks so much. I was very VERY fortunate to pick this set up on the Polish version of E-Bay at a tremendous savings over issue price. The packaging is "unique" to say the least and the coins really do teach a bit of history about Chopin's life.  The case is in storage but the coins have been given their own page in the Chopin composer album.

Many thanks for posting the photos and for keeping my "addiction" in mind! Much appreciated!  Alan   Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 16, 2013, 11:01:09 PM
Hello everyone. Snowing again today in Massachusetts so we're sticking close to home. So, I have more time to work on the Peru coin inventory. Anyway, I'm taking a break from the inventory so here are 3 music coin pieces that arrrived a couple of weeks ago. The 2 Liberian pieces are of course unlisted. To my understanding, they were minted to commemorate the National Anthems of Italy and Denmark. The busts on the coins "might" be the composers, (so I'm told) but I have not researched that yet. I already have the coins honoring the Germany, Austria and Luxumburg National Anthems. (Haydn, Mozart and Ziennen).

The silver piece is from Mongolia honoring Mozart, dated 2006 and is also unlisted.

Be well, everyone.  Alan   Massachusetts


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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on February 16, 2013, 11:32:57 PM
Those Liberian "coins" are somewhat odd. Not sure why they would refer to the ECU ... at a time when that ECU had already been replaced by the euro. ::) Then again, the Liberian government or whoever issued them - the civil war(s) further complicated things - has apparently developed some kind of diarrhea when it comes to such "coins".

But yes, Fratelli d'Italia was written by Goffredo Mameli (who I suppose is the person depicted on the piece), and composed by Michele Novaro. Der er et yndigt land was written by Adam Oehlenschläger; the composer was Hans Ernst Krøyer. (Denmark also has a second anthem for purposes involving the royals.)

The Mongolian piece is listed in the Schön. Produced by the Mayer Mint, maximum mintage 2,500 ... and the building underneath Mozart's portrait is the Ulaanbaatar opera house.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 17, 2013, 01:42:58 AM
Hi, Christian. Exactly the information I was looking to research after dinner out with a neighbor. Thanks for checking out the National Anthem Composers for me. I like to include a bit of "history" of the coins when I put them in the Music Coin/Nationalism topic inventory. Thank you!!!

In reference to Liberia and the particular "malady" causing the over abundance of coinage issues, what a creative phrase!! I will remember that. I believe it is quite contagious as many nations seem to have it as well. What country is it that has coin designs featuring playing cards, Hello Kitty, cartoon characters.. ?   
I could go on and on....and on...and on...some real interesting stuff out there...I guess it sells (I buy the music related stuff...after market when the price plummets) as I expect that much of some of these tiny nations rely on coins to be a major portion of their GNP. Doesn't Licthenstein have collector stamps as a primary industry? What's good for the goose...and so on.

Thanks again.  Alan   Massachusetts   
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: translateltd on February 17, 2013, 05:50:33 AM
Still waiting for a $2 Nuie (Niue?)

If it's any help as a trick to remember which way the vowels go, "Niu" is a Polynesian word for coconut, and "E" is a verbal particle, so "Niu-e" essentially means "here there be coconuts" - a worthwhile stop on a long canoe voyage across vast tracts of water :-)


Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on February 17, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
Mameli can be recognised from his portrait. Oehlenschläger, well, let's believe in intentions.

The main industries in Lichtenstein are drawing up acts for foreigners and producing false teeth (I kid you not). It takes only a few minutes by car to reach Vaduz (the capital) from the border and again a few minutes to reach the opposite border from Vaduz.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on February 17, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
What country is it that has coin designs featuring playing cards, Hello Kitty, cartoon characters.. ?

Canada, France, and various places in the Pacific Ocean are always good candidates. ;D  As for Liechtenstein, one thing that I particularly remember is that, if you want a Liechtenstein stamp in your passport, they do that at the tourist office ... and charge for it. At least the country issues hardly any coins, hehe.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 17, 2013, 06:05:01 PM
Hello, Martin. Thanks. I learned something. As far as a long canoe trip to reach "A place for coconuts", there is nothing I like more than coconut...especially when it's wrapped in chocolate!!!

As far as the Niue $2 Chopin coin that I paid for and never received from the Netherlands dealer...5 days have passed since my email where I stated my clear expectations...and no reply.  5 more days and the "deadline" is up. Numiscollect.com...you're off my list...and hopefully everyone's.

Thanks for the education!!!   Alan   snowing again in Massachusetts  ...I wish I was in Niue.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 17, 2013, 06:11:19 PM
Hello, Peter. False teeth, huh? Give me a few more years and I may finally have an excuse to visit Lichtenstein!  ;D 

As a teen, I clearly remember reading 2 thing about Liechtenstein. First, that collector stamps were a significant source of revenue. Secondly, they would accept people for citizenship if they had a needed skill and had $50,000 U.S. in assets. I bet that has been increased a bit. The country remains on my list of places I would live to visit in Europe (along with a long list of places we haven't been to as yet in Europe). I have great dental insurance...but I don't think I want to knock out my teeth.  :P

Alan   Massachusetts
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on February 17, 2013, 06:32:34 PM
Hi, Christian. When I go page to page looking for overlooked music coins in the 2013 Standard Catalog of World Coins 2001-Present, 7th edition, the countries I dread most are thise with hundreds of listings, like the British Virgin Islands, Belarus, Falkland Islands, Palau....and so on. They try my patience.   :o 

In reference to your statement below...as a kid I tried (not completely without some success) to get a coin from every country, including obsolete nations. Tibet was a challenge I remember, as were Montenegro, Croatia, Albania and numerous others. Needless to say Leichtenstein was on the list as not only were their coins hard to find, I couldn't afford one. Still don't have one...but while I still have THAT collection...I have moved on to other areas of interest.(By the way, as a result of living in what was then Yugoslavia for 2 years...I have Montenegro, Croatia, and Albania coins now). I splurged for a Tibet coin several years ago. $4 if I remember.
  Alan   Massachusetts

" At least the country{Leichtenstein} issues hardly any coins, hehe."

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: brg5658 on March 05, 2013, 02:31:20 AM
I didn't see this one posted yet.  This is a 1991 Czechoslovakia coin, 100 Korun (KM #154; Mintage 75,000 pieces)

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on March 05, 2013, 08:57:09 AM
See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates_Theatre) for more on why this coin was issued. Wiki seems to suggest the theatre was opened in 1783, while the coin mentions 1791...

What's happening between S and K at 8 o'clock?

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 05, 2013, 01:25:52 PM
Here is one from Kazakhstan, issued recently.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: brg5658 on March 05, 2013, 03:25:25 PM
See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates_Theatre) for more on why this coin was issued. Wiki seems to suggest the theatre was opened in 1783, while the coin mentions 1791...

What's happening between S and K at 8 o'clock?

Peter

The coin was issued to commemorate the 200th Anniversary of the death of Mozart.  The Estates Theater was the venue where Mozart most commonly performed within the Czech State, thus why mention of that is also made on the coin.  It was not issued to commemorate anything related to the Theater itself.

Regarding what's "happening" between the S and K at 8-o'clock -- That's Mozart's stylized hair piece / pony-tail.  It's a part of the coin's design.  The little "breaks" you see on the rim in three places around the coin are the small tabs of the PCGS plastic case that hold the coin in place. 

The coin itself is "as struck" with booming luster and essentially mark-free and distraction free surfaces.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 05, 2013, 03:52:20 PM
Guess that another reason for making the theater part of the design was the re-opening on 12 Oct 1991 after several years of construction.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: brg5658 on March 05, 2013, 03:56:58 PM
Guess that another reason for making the theater part of the design was the re-opening on 12 Oct 1991 after several years of construction.

Christian

That I didn't know Christian, thanks for that bit of info.  But, my take was that the theater was pictured because it was the Czech "link" to Mozart.  According to the wiki page Figleaf linked to, it's also the only Theater still in existence where Mozart actually performed during his lifetime.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 05, 2013, 04:51:55 PM
Definitely so. May even be (I don't know) that the re-opening was timed to coincide with the anniversary. In any case, this was a case of killing two birds with one, uh, coin. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 05, 2013, 07:43:22 PM
Hello, Chrisild, and BRG5658. I do have the Czech Mozart coin and thank you for the history on the piece. It was a very tough one to find...and I gave up trying to locate a PROOF example. Anyway, I have attached photos of the National Theater in Czechoslovakia coins issued in 1983. They show a bit more detail than the Mozart coin. Again, thanks so much for posting, for the "history lesson" and for keeping my Music coins addiction in mind. Very much appreciated!

Alan


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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 05, 2013, 07:47:32 PM
Pabitra...Hello!

Thank you very much for posting the new Ukraine 50 Hryvni coin photos. I am looking for the coin as we speak but can't find it on E-Bay yet. I will continue to watch for it when one comes available.

Again, thanks!!  Alan  U.S.A. 
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 05, 2013, 08:11:36 PM
Anyway, I have attached photos of the National Theater in Czechoslovakia coins issued in 1983. They show a bit more detail than the Mozart coin.

May well be a different building though. The National Theater consists of, umm, the National Theater :) and a few other theaters in Prague. I don't know much about the buildings, but have a look here http://www.narodni-divadlo.cz/en (choose a theater from the "Stages" menu). As far as I can tell, the Estates Theater on the coin that brg5658 showed us is not the main building that is featured on the ones you posted. (FWIW, the Estates Theater was called Tyl Theater in the socialist years.)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: milkshakespeare on March 05, 2013, 09:45:32 PM
Pabitra...Hello!

Thank you very much for posting the new Ukraine 50 Hryvni coin photos. I am looking for the coin as we speak but can't find it on E-Bay yet. I will continue to watch for it when one comes available.

Again, thanks!!  Alan  U.S.A. 


You'll probably have better success finding it if you search for Kazakhstan 50 tenge  ;)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 05, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
Hi, Milkshakespeare. Yup...and there it was...under Kazakhstan. I ordered one. Now I will enjoy researching the composer and hopefully finding some samples of his work on audio online.

Many thanks.  Alan

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 06, 2013, 09:01:48 AM
Sorry. The mistake in country was mine.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 06, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
Hello, Pabitra. Absolutely no problem. If I had been paying attention, I would have discovered that the coin was from Kazakhstan. Anyway, I am grateful for your posting the photo and my new addition is on the way for inclusion in the Composer Coin set.  Again...thanks for posting the photo!!   Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 08, 2013, 01:36:41 PM
OK.
Your interest is coins related to music or just composers?

If it is music, then perhaps 20 years of Orchestra by Poland would also meet the criteria.

If it only composers then perhaps this coin from Poland does not seem to find mention in this thread.

Also, you can wait for 2 Euros from Italy which commemorates 200th birth Anniversary. The coin is expected to be issued on 10th October, the day being celebrated.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 08, 2013, 04:29:37 PM
Hello Pabitra, and once again, thank you very much for your very helpful information. I hope at some point I can return the courtesy.

I have the 2 Polish Coins, but very much appreciate the photos and descriptions. The coin with the "violin" commemorating 20 years of the National Orchestra (?) I had labeled as commemorating a festival of some sort. Obviously I do not speak Polish! I will make that correction as I had the coin filed under "instruments". Thank you for the correction.

I am very excited about the Verdi Coin and will eagerly await its minting. I do specialize in "composer coins" but in recent years, the "Music Coin Collection" has expanded to include: composers, conductors, musical instruments, theaters and opera houses, nationalism (national anthems, coins with military marches or national heros with musical activities or affiliations), famous musical performers, famous people in history who were affiliated with famous composers (patrons and the like) and other famous people with musical interests/connections...such as Einstein, Erasmus, Goethe..., miscellaneous (a rather vague category with pieces that don't fall into any other category such as Music Year...singing Festivals..Opera Characters...) and Authors/Poets whos works have been set to music by famous composers. I have pretty much abondoned the Poets/Authors category and the famous people with musical affiliations category.  I need to limit the scope of the collection a bit because it is getting quite difficult to stay current on all the categories.

Anyway, thanks you once again. Your help is very much appreciated.  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 08, 2013, 04:39:11 PM
The coin with the "violin" commemorating 20 years of the National Orchestra (?) I had labeled as commemorating a festival of some sort.

We briefly discussed that in the "Musical instruments and orchestras on coins" topic. :)  Here is a brochure (English language version) about the coins: http://nbp.pl/banknoty_i_monety/monety_okolicznosciowe/2012/2012_01___20_lat_WOSP_en.pdf

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 08, 2013, 04:42:34 PM
...As a follow up to my thank you post to Pabitra, if anyone is interested in a listing of the coins in any of the categories of my "Music Coins" collection I listed in my previous post, I would be delighted to post them here. Just give me a hollar. I know that Music Coin collectors are "scarce as hen's teeth" but just the same...I'd love to share if there is any interest. (I'd love to know that I am not the ONLY Music Coin collector on the planet...it's lonely!!!) Please remember that no category is complete (or probably ever will be)...but I'm making a good effort.

All the best from snow buried Massachusetts in the U.S.A. 3rd day of a 3 day storm. Houses on the north coast are falling into the Atlantic. Very heartbreaking! We are far inland but I feel so badly for thise losing their homes to the storm and the Atlantic Ocean. Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 08, 2013, 04:45:07 PM
Chrisild. WONDERFUL!!! Thank you for the pamphlet! The silver Orchestra piece is now on my list and I have to check to see if I have all the others...memory getting ancient!!!!   Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 09, 2013, 02:40:01 PM

 but in recent years, the "Music Coin Collection" has expanded to include: composers, conductors, musical instruments, theaters and opera houses, nationalism (national anthems,
  Alan


National Anthems.... Very interesting.
What are the coins under that list?
I am sure you must be having Tagore coins.
Rabindranath Tagore(7 May 1861 – 7 August 1941)
He was the first Asian to win Nobel Prize (Literature -1913) as well as first non-European to win Nobel Prize in Literature. He holds the unique distinction of having composed or guided 2.5 ( two and a half)  National Anthems. His compositions have been chosen by two nations as national anthems: the India's Jana Gana Mana and Bangladesh's Amar Shonar Bangla. The composer of Sri Lanka's national anthem: Sri Lanka Matha, Egodahage George Wilfred Alwis Samarakoon (January 13, 1911 – April 5, 1962) (known as Ananda Samarakoon), was a student of Tagore, and the song is inspired by Tagore's style.

India and Bangladesh have issued coins to commem his 150th ann of birthday. I am still to know if he has been honoured on any other coin.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 09, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Hello, Pabitra.

Once again I send thanks for the information. I have attached below my list of "Nationalism" coins. Tagore is not listed as I have his India 5 Rupee coin of 2011 in the "Composer" section of the collection in his honor. Perhaps I should move the coin into the "Nationalism" category? Did he compose music other than the National Anthem? I thought he composed songs as well but I may be wrong. I also found a 150 Rupee coin from India honoring Tandore available from online sellers. I will pout that one o my list to save my money to buy. I looked to see if there was information about a coin in Tangore's honor from Bangladesh but I did not anything else other than your photo.  I will research online for further details. I also found no listing for Sri Lanka issing a coin in honor of Samarakoon but again, I will research further.

In the list below, please remember that many of the coins recognize military heros and topics that are related to national pride and national heros with some affiliation to music. Not all are composers of national anthems.

Many thanks for your post.   Alan  [color][size]


Music Coins, Nationalism and National Heroes

1. Australia $1. Banjo Paterson (Waltzing Matilda) KM-269a.1  1995  Proof  20,000      Cat. $75
2. Austria  25 Schilling  Prince Eugene Von Savoyen  KM-2893  1963  Unc.  1,994,000      Cat. $8
3. Austria  500 Schilling  Prince Eugene von Savoyen KM-2978  1986  Proof  99,600      Cat. $55.
4. Austria  10 Euro  Marx Augustin  (Plague Lgend)KM-3198  2011  Proof  __         Cat. __
5. Canada  $100 gold “Oh Canada” National Anthem  KM-131  1981  Proof  102,000                 Cat. .5002 oz.gold
6. China  1 Yuan  40th Anniversary republic  1989  KM-220  BU  2,000,000                                Cat. $4 (unc)
7. Czechoslovakia  10 Korun  Death of Jan Hus  (Church Music) 1965  KM-58  Proof  5,000   
                           (380 Unc/PR coins melted)                    Cat. $20
8. Czechoslovakia  100 Korun  Samo (Self) Chalupka  1983  KM-110  BU  76,000         Cat. $12. (unc)
9. France  1 ½ Euro  200 years Louisiana Purchase (Jazz Musician)  KM-1336  2003  Proof    10,000    Cat. $50
10. Greece  20 Drachmes  Dionysios Solomos (composed national anthem)  KM-154  1998  BU  __    Cat. $2.50
11. Greece  50 Drachmes  Dionysios Solomos (composed national anthem)  KM-172  1998  BU  __      Cat. $5.50
12. Liberia  $1  75th Anniversary U.S. National Anthem  KM-  2006  Proof  __ Unlisted                   Cat. __
13. Liberia $10  German National Anthem (Haydn) KM-__      Unlisted           Cat. __
14. Liberia  $10  Austrian National Anthem  (Mozart) KM-__      Unlisted           Cat. __   
15. Liberia  $10  Luxemburg National Anthem (Jean-Anton Ziennen) KM- __ Unlisted        Cat. __      
16. Liberia  $10  Italy National Anthem (Goffredo Mameli)  KM-__   Unlisted           Cat. __      
17. Liberia  $10  Denmark National Anthem (Hans Ernst Kroyer)  KM-__  Unlisted        Cat. __
18. Poland  10 Zlotych  Mazurka of Dabrowski  Y--318  1996  Proof  14,000           Cat. $50
19. Poland  10 Zlotych  95th Anniversary of First Cadre Company March Out  Y-691 2009
                            Proof  50,000                         Cat. $50.   
20. Ukraine  2 Hryvni  Pavlo Chubynsky  (text for Nat. Anthem)  KM-533 2009  Proof ? 35,000     Cat. $5.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on March 09, 2013, 04:29:30 PM
The subject and title (but not the composer) of the Dutch national anthem is William of Nassau. He's on coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,14740.msg101255.html#msg101255), though not on many.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 09, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Wonderful, Peter. Thank you. I have no idea where to start on locating a coin with William of Nassau. He would be a most interesting addition to the "Nationalism" category of the Music Collection. I have printed your page and will start hunting. Budget is rather low at the moment...but as of this morning thanks to you and Pabitra, I now have 3 "Nationalism" coins to hunt for. What fun.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 09, 2013, 05:39:07 PM
I have no idea where to start on locating a coin with William of Nassau.

This page http://www.knm.nl/50-Gulden-1984-Willem-van-Oranje-FDC/nl/product/7353/ may be a good starting point. ;)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on March 09, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
Yes, that's a possibility and not too hard to find (try MA-shops). The royal way is to search for "prinsendaalder (MA-shops has several, should set you back around €500). The el-cheapo way is to look for an 1601 or 1602 oord from Zeeland province. Cheaper than the 50 gulden above (should be €20-40 for a nice specimen), but much harder to find. Beware of a similar type dated 1604-1669. That portrait is believed to be William's son, Maurice.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 09, 2013, 08:25:25 PM

 Did he compose music other than the National Anthem? I thought he composed songs as well but I may be wrong.

I looked to see if there was information about a coin in Tangore's honor from Bangladesh but I did not anything else other than your photo. 

I also found no listing for Sri Lanka issing a coin in honor of Samarakoon but again, I will research further.


Rabindranath Tagore was one of the most prolific song composers.
He composed music for more than two thousand songs.
As a matter of fact, he created a new genre of music in his mother tongue, Bangla that goes by name of "Rabindra Sangeet".
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabindra_Sangeet

Tagore coin of Bangladesh is listed as S#35 and KM#28, as per WMK. I do not know if SCWC 2013 has it since my copy is still with George Cuhaj.

Samarakoon was never honored by Srilanka, due to his anti-establishment nature.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 10, 2013, 02:50:11 PM
Hello, Pabitra and Peter. Pabitra, thanks yet again for the information on Tangore. I will keep the 5 Rupee coin in the "Composer" section and will watch for a good price on the 150 Rupee piece.

Peter, I'll be on the look out for the William of Nassau addition. It will be (when I can afford a nice one) the oldest "composer coin" in the collection. An iteresting direction to persue. Now I do habe a Maria Theresa piece or 2 in there from Austria...but they are from the 1700's, 20 Kreutzer pieces I believe...but she is what I call "musically affiliated" so is not in the composer nor performer sub-categories. 


Best wishes all. Digging out from the huge snow storm.  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 12, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
Another expensive coin should be on your list.

Malta National Anthem composer coin.

You might compile a national Anthems ebook with images of coins, short bio of the composers, mp3 of the national anthem and lyrics with translation in English.

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on March 12, 2013, 10:44:39 PM
Much of that work was already done here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_anthems) and here (http://www.flagdom.com/flag-resources/national-anthems/) (no composers). All you need is the coins.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on March 12, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
Peter, I'll be on the look out for the William of Nassau addition. It will be (when I can afford a nice one) the oldest "composer coin" in the collection. An iteresting direction to persue.

Makes sense, since the Wilhelmus is reckoned to be the world's oldest national anthem.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 12, 2013, 11:07:33 PM
Hello once again, Peter and Pabitra.

Peter...the "National Anthem Site" is a rich source of potential additions to the "Nationalism" section of my Music Coin collection. There are several familiar names for whom I have coins already...but I now believe that I have just started to scratch the surface. Oh boy...time for another job to finance this "new" avenue of collecting. Thank you for posting the site.

Pabitra...I'm researching the Malta piece as we speak. No KM  number yet I believe but it was issued in 2013. Definitely will add the coin to the "needed" list. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on March 13, 2013, 10:57:41 AM
Makes sense, since the Wilhelmus is reckoned to be the world's oldest national anthem.

... or rather the oldest musical work that today is a national anthem. ;)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on March 13, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Well yes, if you count non-musical stuff, the Welsh dragon is an older national anthem ::) Don't tell the Japanese.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 15, 2013, 12:18:26 PM

Pabitra...I'm researching the Malta piece as we speak. No KM  number yet I believe but it was issued in 2013. Alan


Yes. It is yet to be listed and may take a year or two, to get listed.My area of work basically involves unlisted coins.

How about this. From Poland, just issued. Does it meet your criteria of Composers on coins?

best
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 15, 2013, 05:43:16 PM
Hello, Pabitra.

Of course I am interested in the Polish "Composer" ? coin. I am sending a scan of your photo to a friend who lives in Poland and perhaps she can tell me who the coin is honoring. I'll do my research and see what "category" the "person" would fit in within the Music Coin set. Then...the hunt begins (when it is issued).

Many thanks!!!

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 15, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
Of course I am interested in the Polish "Composer" ? coin. I am sending a scan of your photo to a friend who lives in Poland

You can see about that "composer" here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprian_Norwid

A 2 Zloty coin is also beeing issued on him and as is the case, it is circulating comemm which is available at face value in branches of National Bank. The relase date is April 8 and it should be available within a fortnight of that date.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 23, 2013, 09:39:11 AM
Alglasser,

Another composer coin.  This time actually from Ukraine ( and not a mistake with Kazakhstan, This was the mixup I had)

Ukrainian composer, opera singer, a brilliant actor, author of the first Ukrainian opera " Cossack beyond the Dunay", which entered the golden fund of national musical heritage and the 150th anniversary of premieres this opera. This opera is a remarkable achievement of the composer, which embodies national peculiarities of Ukrainian folklore and life. Moreover, Semyon Stepanovich Gulak-Artemovsky - author of the libretto and the first performer Party Karas.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 23, 2013, 03:24:52 PM
Hello, Pabitra. I hope this note finds you and your family well.

Thank you very much for the history and photos of the new Ukraine composer coin. It is truly a beautiful design. I will begin looking for an example for my collection this evening. I very much appreciate your help in letting me know of new composer/music issues. My example of The Mukan Tulebayev coin you told me about has arrived and is a very welcomed addition to the composer set. I am researchig Norwid Cyprian to see if the coins "qualify" for inclusion into the music set. I fould literature links to him but still searching musical connections. Again, thanks.

Many thanks and warm wishes form the  Alan in the U.S.A.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on March 27, 2013, 09:26:21 AM
You are most welcome, Alan.

Among the old coins, erstwhile West Germany, East Germany and Austria happen to have issued maximum number of coins on composers. The list is big but I am sure you must have got them by now.

Will keep in mind about new coins, which is my area of interest.

with best wishes from Pabitra in Belgium
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on March 28, 2013, 12:26:21 AM
Hello, Pabitra.
 
I am quite proud that I have just recently completed the Austria Composer coin set. A few were a bit tricky to find in nice UNC, and the gold coins were budget busters but my "piano lesson" earned monies were carefully saved until I could afford each piece. I believe I am very close in Germany and East Germany as well in completing  their music coins in my collection. Poland has many composer coins as well, particularly Chopin and Paderewski (both also a famed pianists). The Poland Y-202 and Y-205 coins have eluded me and prices are prohibitive when I see them for sale but I believe I have the other issues in the collection including Prova issues.

I have been collecting music coins for probably 30 years or so...much more in recent years and I have many pieces to still add. I am very appreciative of your keeping me informed of new issues. Interestingly, I do not recall a single coin from Belgium with a musical reference as the subject. My collection is large and I do not "know" all the pieces in the collection so I may be missing some. I think I will go through the inventory to see if I am wrong. My collection is divided into categories and the coins are listed by performer, composer.....and not by country.

Thanks for your note.  Alan

Update. I have the Django Reinhardt 10 Euro of 2010 coin from Belgium. He is loved for his contributions to European Jazz Guitar music.. I also have the Belgium 2 Euros Queen Elizabeth Music Competition of 2012 coin. No KM number yet. Are there other Belgium coins that are music related???  Thanks.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on April 01, 2013, 12:01:03 PM
German speaking nations give maximum importance to Piano and Violin instrumental music and hence maximum composers are commemed there.

Russian speaking countries give importance to Ballet as most popular art form but still you will find coins on some composers like A P Borodin, A N Scriabi, Hamza Hakimzadi Niyazi etc.

Belgium, most of which is Dutch speaking, favours painting as the art form of choice. Guitar playing Jean "Django" Reinhart is only music composer who ppears to havbe been commemed on a coin unless you include Maurice Maeterlinck, who works have been subject of opera,  which is the art form of choice in french speaking part of Belgium ( as it is France).

Belgium is a reluctant issuer of commem coins, unlike its neighbour Luxembourg, which avails all opportunities. Let us see if i succeed in getting a coin issued on 200th birth ann. of Adolphe Sax, the inventor of Saxophone, next year.

Italian speaking areas prefer to go for sculpture, which incidentally happens to be my favourite form of art.

Elizabeth Music Competition 2 Euros bimetallic has been assigned S#290. SCWC may take quite some time to copy from it.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 01, 2013, 12:27:37 PM
German speaking nations give maximum importance to Piano and Violin instrumental music and hence maximum composers are commemed there.

There is an interesting difference between Austria and Germany by the way. Not "fundamental" but rather gradual - on Austrian coins you tend to find more composers while on German coins writers will show up more often ...

As for Sax, those who do not want to wait could buy a Belgian 200 fr note. ;) Link only as "paper" is not exactly on topic here:
(obv) http://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/exchange/be/shared/img/be200_v.jpg
(rev) http://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/exchange/be/shared/img/be200_r.jpg

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on April 13, 2013, 06:45:50 PM
I have been offerred this coin as Hungarian coin on a composer.

Franz Liszt  (October 22, 1811 – July 31, 1886) was a 19th-century Hungarian composer, pianist, conductor, and teacher.
Liszt became renowned in Europe during the nineteenth century for his virtuosic skill as a pianist. He was said by his contemporaries to have been the most technically advanced pianist of his age, and in the 1840s he was considered by some to be perhaps the greatest pianist of all time. Liszt was also a well-known and influential composer, piano teacher and conductor. He was a benefactor to other composers, including Richard Wagner, Hector Berlioz, Camille Saint-Saëns, Edvard Grieg and Alexander Borodin.
As a composer, Liszt was one of the most prominent representatives of the "Neudeutsche Schule" ("New German School"). He left behind an extensive and diverse body of work in which he influenced his forward-looking contemporaries and anticipated some 20th-century ideas and trends. Some of his most notable contributions were the invention of the symphonic poem, developing the concept of thematic transformation as part of his experiments inmusical form and making radical departures in harmony. He also played an important role in popularizing a wide array of music by transcribing it for piano.

It does not appear to be a coin since denomination is missing. The dealer has offerred the letter of authenticity but I am still unsure. Perhaps some member can add to this?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 13, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
As you wrote, that is not a coin. All I need to say is "Samlerhuset". :)  Seems that the company which issued this medal is part of that group. http://www.samlerhuset.com/i/offices/magyar-kincstar.aspx Ask the British about the London Mint Office, the Irish about the Dublin Mint Office, and so on.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on April 14, 2013, 12:20:54 AM
Regarding the Liszt "piece", in a way I'm rather glad it's not a "coin". I'm not really fond of the representation of Liszt. I think the pieces below do a somewhat more complementary job to the master composer and pianist: Hungary 1938 5 Pengo, 1961 50 Forint, 2000 3,000 Forints and Germany 2011 10 Euro. Christian, the 50,000 Forint is on my "Wish List". Not going to happen any time soon!!

Alan
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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on April 14, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
The Hungarian Mint used an even younger Liszt for its 2011 coin (image from their website). Somewhat pricy though: gold, face value 50,000 forint, costs about €450 if you buy it from the mint. If you have a little more in your piggy bank, there is a piedfort version as well. ;)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on April 14, 2013, 03:09:11 AM
Hello, Pabitra.

I have MOST of the Russian composer coins..but one has been a real challange to locate...yet alone afford. I was VERY lucky to obtain years ago, the Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov pieces when gold was not so crazy and I slabbed them more recently to make sure they were authentic. Rachmaninov remains one of my favorite composers (along with Beethoven...and I have a zillion Beethoven coins..none Russian of course.) Tchaikovsky is quite nice too (love the fifth symphony) but he just doesn't make my "favorite composer" list. The elusive Russian composer coin is Y-455, 150 Rubles of Igor Stravinsky dated 1993 as are the Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov coins. It would be my first Platinum coin if I ever find one. I would probably have to sell myself into bondage to be able to afford it. (How much is a 62 year old pianist/composer worth in bondage?) Anyone want to talk "TRADE"? I have good teeth...and they are all my own!!! ;D  I do housework too and make great Kosher pickels and fudge! As far as the music of old Igor...not my favorite...I am kind of stuck in the 18th and 19th centuries and walk cautiously into the 20th...

I don't have the Russian composer coins listed by "country"...they are cataloged in my collection by name...but if anyone is interested, I could put together a list and maybe pictures when I next go to the bank.

Alan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: <k> on April 23, 2013, 08:17:19 PM
Hungary, 100 forint, 1961.  Béla Bartók.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on April 23, 2013, 08:50:47 PM
Hello <k> .

Nice coin and photo. I have the 2 silver Bartok pieces, but the gold pieces elude me. I was hoping that with the gold price drop, I might stumble on an affordable example of the 50 or 100 Forint Bartok, Liszt or Kodaly gold coins.  I did find a Liszt 50 Forint gold. Due any day. I found it at a gold bullion dealer for a decent price...not too much higher than melt. if I could find 1 or 2 of the others priced reasonably, I would splurge.

Thanks for thinking of my collecting obsession (and wallet drainer). 

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on April 26, 2013, 08:44:33 PM
Though I was on a bit of a hiatus from coin buying, these 3 pieces are very recent acquisitions (the Liszt 50 forint came yesterday). OK... hiatus is over I guess...(somebody tell my budget that!!!)

The coins are:

Tuvalu $1 of 2011 honoring Franz Liszt,

Hungary 50 Forint of 1961 honoring Franz Liszt,

Russia 2 Roubles of 2004 Honoring Mikhail Glinka.    Alan

 



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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on May 02, 2013, 09:59:07 PM
Hi Alan,
I could find this coin which was issued by Azerbaijan on Uzeyir Hajibeyov.
Uzeyir bey Abdul Huseyn oglu Hajibeyov ( September 18, 1885, Agjabadi – November 23, 1948, Baku) was an Azerbaijani and Soviet composer, conductor, publicist, playwright, teacher, translator, and social figure from Azerbaijan. He is recognized as the father of Azerbaijani composed classical music and opera. Uzeyir Hajibeyov composed the music of the national anthem of Azerbaijan Democratic Republic (which was re-adopted after Azerbaijan regained its independence from the Soviet Union in 1991). He also composed the anthem used by Azerbaijan during the Soviet period. He was the first composer of an opera in the Islamic world.

This coin will also be under the theme of National Anthem Composers.

The gold coin, issued in 2008, had mintage of only 1000 pieces and is quite a difficult coin to locate.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 03, 2013, 02:42:39 AM
Hello, Pabitra.

This is wonderful information (Azerbijan composer coin). Thank you so much. I don't know the price of this coin, but I will do some searching to see if I can find one.... My thinking is that the cost may be prohibitive but I am intrigued and will search, "just in case". Neither of these coins are listed in SCWC or the NGC World Coin site.

I did a bit of research on the piece and found this article (attached below) showing that there are 3 music related coins in the series. Then I also found listings for KM-38 and KM-45  for 50 and 100 Manat coins of 1999 honoring a "Musician Riding a Horse". I would like to know the significance of the design so the research continues.

I have only 1 music coin from Azerbijan, which is in my musical instrument sub set. It is KM-39, no date (2006) featuring musical instruments with a face value of 1 Qapik.

Regarding the gold coins in the photo below, it states that they were legal tender. Do gold coins really circulate in Azerbijan? Or, should I assume that they COULD circulate but it is expected that collectors/dealers would obtain them all before they ever reached circulation?

Thanks so much, Pabitra. I am very excited about your discovery. I may never own the coin(s) but it is exciting to know they are "there" if I ever win the lottery.

All the best from Alan in Massachusetts
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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on May 03, 2013, 10:55:36 PM
In 1999, Azerbaijian used the old manat. An amount of 100 old manat is equivalent to USD 0.02547 (around 2-1/2 cents), 50 old manat is the equivalent of USD 0.01274. I will take all the pieces you can find and I won't care if they are legal tender or not, but I suspect that you may be somewhat reluctant to put any of these pieces in circulation for their face value, whether they are legal tender or not. :)

Gold pieces have not been struck for circulation at face value anywhere in the world for around a century now.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 03, 2013, 11:30:39 PM
Hello, Peter.

Thanks for the information on the Manat. You and I will have to compete for the 100 Manat gold coins at face value! Which one of us is more handsome and can flash a prettier smile??? You would win in the brains department but I got YOU beat in the Piano performance/composition department. One of the ways I would befriend the pretty girls in college is that I wrote a lot of them piano compositions. Worked like a charm!  I wonder if we could use THAT as a winning quality for the "ownership- at-face-value-Manat-gold-coin-competition? If so, as they say here "stateside"...you're toast!

I never really sat down and thought about when gold coins stopped being used a circulating money. A century sounds about right but the U.S. was still issuing $10 and $20 gold pieces until 1933 (1932 for "regular", non controversial dates). That's pretty close to a century.

Now, how long has silver been "out of circulation"? The U.S. issued 90% silver coins (dime, quarter and half dollar) through 1964 and then continued through 1970 with 40% silver in the half dollar. These circulated because my wife and I liked going to the bank on dates, pooling our money and buying rolls of half dollars. 40% silver halves were found easily and 90%ers were not that scarce either. We still have all those coins and that goes back to 1973-1975.  Switzerland stopped using silver in about 1968 or so. Does anyone know of a country that has silver still circulating?

I asked while we were in Central America if they had any "moneda efectiva de plata" and they looked at me as if I had 3 heads. Was the late 1960's a "watershead" time when silver just stopped being used for coins? I assume at that time, silver values exceeded face value of the coins being minted so the changeover occured. Looks like the turnover was around 1967 in Canada, maybe 1966 for Australia. Austria seemed to go somewhat later with debased silver until 1978 or so but most of these are collector 50 schilling commemoratives and later dates exist for 100 Schilling commemoratives in silver. I'm curious as to what country lasted the longest in issuing silver coins that actually circulated.

alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on May 04, 2013, 10:20:27 AM
Silver is a different story. It ceased to be a monetary metal after the Napoleonic wars, as the world switched over to central banking. In other words, when paper money is introduced, silver is no longer necessary in coins. However, it continued to be used for prestige reasons, interrupted by times of war and revolution.

Around the 1960's, there was a huge energy crisis, as oil went from $4/barrel to $32/barrel, sliding back to a still hefty $15/barrel with a lot of volatility. This drove home that using silver (just another commodity, that had risen on the back of oil) in coins is a waste of taxpayer's money. The US was a special case, as USD was cut loose from the price of gold, making a hefty depreciation possible. If I remember correctly, USD depreciated by about a third against a basket of currencies. However, the oil crisis caused rampant inflation in a majority of developing countries, so those still using silver also quickly found out that using silver for coins is wasteful. As silver went out of fashion, most of the rest of the world followed suit. If memory doesn't deceive, Mexico - producing both oil and silver in quantity - was one of the last or the last country issuing (low grade) silver coins. I still got them in circulation around 1970.

Gold went out more quickly, because it was more harmful to the economy: it was used as an inflation hedge when war threatened. (France was infamous as a country where people would keep gold "in the mattress", even through the 1960s. The introduction of the new franc reduced the habit to small time metal trading.) This would aggravate financial market volatility: just as more liquidity was needed to face an economic crisis, retail investors would go illiquid. After the first world war, gold coins would still be struck, though they were no longer circulated, but used for small time investment. After the second world war, they were just issued to milk collectors. The only exceptions were central Asian OPEC countries, where gold was in demand for prestige purposes and - for a short period only - a loophole in the EU tax regulations.

Piano music endured all these crises. Yes, you have a large lead on me there. As a boy, I had a one octave piano and I could play "Frère Jacques"on it, though, so consider yourself warned :D

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: paisepagal on May 04, 2013, 10:34:48 AM
The Rs10 25th Year of Indian independence 1972 coin briefly circulated. However this crown sized coin along with its predessecors failed to find favour with most people and it was quickly discontinued. The coin was of quaternary alloy with 50% constituted in silver.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 04, 2013, 04:00:43 PM
Hello Peter and paisepegal.

So it would appear that India and Mexico hung out the among the longest in issuing silver coins for circulation. I have a few of the large Mexico 1 Peso coins with, if I recall .100 silver....yes...I just checked. KM-459 ...each coin contained .0514 ounces of silver. One of the coins I have has a deep obverse scratch ftom 12:00 to 6:00 roughly... perhaps someone was looking for the silver???  :o

paisepagal, I took a look at the 10 rs of 1972. ... .500 silver or .367 ounces . That's a decent silver content. Did the 10 Rs and 20 Rs of 1973 FAO issue (KM-188 and 240) ever circulate?  .3617 ounces and .4822 ounces respectively.

Peter..."Frere Jacques" on a 1 octave piano? Gee...you still have about 1/3 octave left over. Maybe you better "bone up" and expand your horizons a bit  before the big Manat competition.  ;D

Best wishes guys.   Alan

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: paisepagal on May 04, 2013, 04:09:04 PM
Hi Alan,

The 1969 Gandhi, 1970-71 Fao , which contained 80% silver along with the 1972 independence commem did circulate, but none after that.
Rs20 coins have never circulated so far. But with inflation and rupee depreciation, it's not far away that the authorities will be forced to introduce such denominations for circulation
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on May 07, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
I don't know the price of this coin, but I will do some searching to see if I can find one.... My thinking is that the cost may be prohibitive but I am intrigued and will search, "just in case". Neither of these coins are listed in SCWC or the NGC World Coin site.

Regarding the gold coins in the photo below, it states that they were legal tender. Do gold coins really circulate in Azerbijan? Or, should I assume that they COULD circulate but it is expected that collectors/dealers would obtain them all before they ever reached circulation?

I may never own the coin(s) but it is exciting to know they are "there" if I ever win the lottery.

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They may not be listed in SCWC or NGC but they are very much listed in WMK. Four gold coins were issued in 2008 and they are listed as S#19 to 22. Indicative price is 1500 Euros.

They are NCLT or legal tender at face value but not issued by bank at that price.

Keep on buying lottery tickets. My best wishes are always with you.

Also Luxembourg has changed the topic of its 2 Euro coin, to be issued in end June, from "change of guards" to"national anthem".
The design is not ready but I expect the same to be music oriented. The Central Bank will announce it by end of this month. That coin should not cost more than 4 Euro. Will keep you informed.

best
PKS
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on May 17, 2013, 10:39:02 PM
Luxembourg has announced the design of its National Anthem coin.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 17, 2013, 10:56:35 PM
Excellent, Pabitra. Thank you so much!!!  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 19, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
Hello everyone. Here is a new addition to my composer set that arrived today. By chance I spotted it on E-Bay as I had not known of its existence previously.  It is 2 Dinars of Andorra featuring Frederic Chopin dated 2009. It is not listed in SCWC or on the NGC World Coin site. Not my favorite image of Chopin to be sure. He kinda' looks like he needs the bathroom...really badly!

Alan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: paisepagal on May 24, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
Just noticed this one for you Alan

http://worldcoinnews.blogspot.in/2013/05/australia-1-dollar-2013-slim-dusty.html
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 24, 2013, 09:57:52 PM
paisepagal.

Wow! Excellent. Thanks so much!!!! Finally Banjo Paterson (Australia KM-269a1) and Dame Nellie Melba (Australia KM-338) won't be lonely any more. Australia honored Maria Callas too (though she was Greek) with KM-1645 so that will round out the famous Australian honored musicians really well. Thanks so much for letting me know. I will start the hunt. I see that Italy has minted the long awaited 2 euro of Giseppi Verdi so I will be looking for that too. I am watching UNC.s on E-Bay but am wondering if there will be a PROOF mintage. Wow...I'm going to be busy...and broke!

Many thanks!!!!!!  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on May 25, 2013, 09:38:11 AM
Alan,
I could locate another composer coin from Kazakhstan.

Zhubanov Akhmet(1906-1968) - composer, conductor, musical expert, ethnographer, People’s Artist of Kaz.SSR, Doctor of art criticism, Academician of Academy of Sciences of Kaz.SSR, State Prize winner of Kaz.SSR. Graduated from the historical and theoretical faculty of Leningrad Conservatory in 1932. In 1932-1933 was a post-graduate of the Art Criticism Academy. In 1934 he founded the Kazakh folk orchestra (now Kurmangazy Kazakh State Academic Folk Orchestra). Zhubanov was at the head of Alma-Ata State Conservatory. He had the honour of opening the Jambul Kazakh State Philharmonic Society. He was one of the founders of the republican Academy of Sciences, organised the art criticism section, which eventually became a part of the Auezov Institute of Literature and Art. The organisational, creative, scholarly, pedagogical, and social activity of Zhubanov formed the whole epoch in the history of Kazakhstani musical culture. He was at the source of professional musical education, musical creative work and music studies. The name of the academician-composer Zhubanov stands beside the names of outstanding public figures that laid the foundations of Kazakh culture. The operas «Abai» and «Tulegen Tokhtarov» with L.Khamidi, the symphonic compositions: «Marsh pamyati Kurmangazy (March for Kurmangazy)», «Zhez kiik», a Kazakh dance suite, the piano compositions «Saranzhap», «Korogli», a chorus, songs, romances, theatrical music and cinematic scores, academic works «The Life and Creative Work of Kazakh Popular Composers of the XIX and Early XX Centuries», «The Strings of Centuries», «The Nightingales of Centuries», «Mukan Tulebaev», «Kurmangazy»; ethnographic researches of Kazakh folk songs and kiuis, recordings of Kurmangazy’s and Dauletkerei’s kiuis and many other compositions of A. Zhubanov made valuable contribution to the development of Kazakh musical culture.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on May 25, 2013, 11:45:24 AM
I see that Italy has minted the long awaited 2 euro of Giseppi Verdi so I will be looking for that too. I am watching UNC.s on E-Bay but am wondering if there will be a PROOF mintage.

Long awaited? Giuseppe Verdi was born in October 1813, so the issue is somewhat early. ;D  And yes, I think that this one can be had in proof as well: http://www.ipzs.it/docs/public/brochure_2013.pdf (see p. 4). Whether the comment means that the proof piece will be part of the proof sets only, or whether it can be purchased separately, I don't know ...

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 25, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
Hello Pabitra and Christian.

Thanks for your information. Christian, I found the Verdi piece in Unc... but I think I would like the proof so I will check the site you kindly provided. Many thanks.

Pabitra, I think this is the first time that I already had a coin that you so kindly located. However, I really did not find much good information about the composer so your notes will be incorporated into my notebook with information on lesser known composers. So again, you have been very helpful.

Many thanks to you both!!! You guys are terrific!   Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 25, 2013, 09:01:04 PM
First, thanks to the very kind participants in this topic who have helped me locate several new issues this week. Your efforts are very much appreciated and all 3 are actively being sought.

I have 3 new additions to the "Music Coin" collection. Not all are composers but I don't think there is an "Opera House/Theater on Coins" or an "Opera Coins" topic. So, I'm listing them here. The Palau coin was not on my top acquisition list, but I put in a rather low offer and won the coin on e-Bay so I am pleased. The Cook Islands piece is rather "gimmicky"...questionable ...but it IS a "coin" and I do have a section devoted to opera houses in the collection so...I put a "Best Offer" for that one to and won the piece. I don't think that anyone in their right mind on the planet would bid...guess I was right.

So here they are:

1. Cook Islands 1 Dollar 2009,  KM-Unlisted, Semper Opera House. Both East and West Germany issued commemorative pieces for the Opera House, but unfortunately I have my coins in this topic listed by Country of the coin's origion so the Cook Island Piece will be away from its coin brothers. Thius one ultimately will come out of the plastic capsule as it is rather mangled on 1 side and just cloudy on the other.

2. Palau 5 Dollars 2011 KM-Unlisted, Honoring the opera, "Carmen" by Georges Bizet. Unfortunately, Bizet's name does not appear on the piece...a rather unforgivable oversight I would think. It will go into the "opera" subsection of  the section of my collection containing Opera references. I DID discover that in the "archway" behind the outstretched arm is a tiny representation of the score of the opera. It's too small to see well but does appear under magnification. I rather like that feature.

3. Hungary 25 Forint 1967 KM-577 featuring composer Zoltan Kodaly. I already own KM-578 with is the 50 Forint piece and I am watching for an affordable KM-579, the 100 Forint piece, both honoring Kodaly. KM 580 and 581, 500 and 1000 Forints are gold and will probably, sadly, never grace my collection.  :'(

 Best wishes to everyone and thanks so much for all the fantastic help many of you are providing!!! Alan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 01, 2013, 08:10:18 AM
New composer coin from Russia


Alexander Sergeyevich Dargomyzhsky (Russian: Александр Сергеевич Даргомыжский) (February 14 [O.S. February 2] 1813 – January 17 [O.S. January 5] 1869) was a 19th-century Russian composer. He bridged the gap in Russian opera composition between Mikhail Glinka and the later generation of The Five and Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.
Dargomyzhsky was born in Troitsko village, Belyovsky District, Tula Governorate, and educated in Saint Petersburg. He was already known as a talented musical amateur when in 1833 he met Mikhail Glinka and was encouraged to devote himself to composition. His opera Esmeralda (libretto by composer, based on Victor Hugo's The Hunchback of Notre Dame) was composed in 1839 (performed 1847), and his Rusalka was performed in 1856; but he had little success or recognition either at home or abroad, except in Belgium, until the 1860s, when he became the elder statesman, but not a member, of The Five.
His last opera, The Stone Guest, is his most famous work, known as a pioneering effort in melodic recitative. With the orchestration and the end of the first scene left incomplete at his death, it was finished by César Cui and Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, and was much prized by The Five for what was perceived as its progressive approach to operatic expression. It was premiered in 1872, but never became a lasting standard operatic repertoire item.
Dargomyzhsky also left some unfinished opera projects, among them an attempted setting of Pushkin's Poltava, from which a duet survives. Besides operas, his other compositions include numerous songs, piano pieces, and some orchestral works.
He died in Saint Petersburg in 1869, aged 55.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 03, 2013, 07:06:41 PM
On the birth bicentenary of Richard Wagner, Germany and Latvia have issued coins
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on June 03, 2013, 07:18:34 PM
Guess you know (and have) this one anyway - GDR 1983:
https://philatelie.deutschepost.de/out/pictures/z1/016672_1_z1.jpg

And when it comes to this year's issues ... who cares about Germany and Latvia when Niue is in the Wagner boat too? ;D
http://www.ceskamincovna.cz/en/investment-gold-smart-coins-902/gold-half-ounce-coin-10-nzd-richard-wagner-proof-3919-p/

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 04, 2013, 11:22:45 AM

Australia, on its part as a tribute to Richard Wagner, has issued a coin showing the ship " The Flying Dutchman"

A phantom ship believed to foreshadow disaster to superstitious sailors, the Flying Dutchman was immortalised by German composer Richard Wagner in the opera of its name, Der fliegende Holländer.

The coin's reverse portrays a representation of the vessel floating above a rough sea amid lightning.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 08, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
On 7th June, Kazakhstan has issued a 500 Tenge Gold coin on Kurmangazy, their national composer.

Kurmangazy Sagyrbaev (Kazakh: Құрманғазы Сағырбайұлы; Russian: Курмангазы Сагырбаев; 1823–1896), was a Kazakh composer, instrumentalist, and folk artist. He is buried in the Astrakhan region of Lower Volga in today's Russian Federation.Sagybraev image has been used on a stamp and on the Kazakhstan 5 Tenge Banknote in the 1990s
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: izotz on June 14, 2013, 06:17:06 PM
I see you mentioned Tulebayev, but I can't find if you already posted this coin / image.  Just in case :

100 years of Mukan Tulebayev
Kazakhstan 2013 50 tenge
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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 21, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
I see you mentioned Tulebayev, but I can't find if you already posted this coin / image.

It was posted as « Reply #119  in this thread on: March 05, 2013, under mistaken head of Ukraine.

Another Composer coin will be issued by Poland on 18th Sept.

Composer Witold Roman Lutosławski was a Polish composer and orchestral conductor. He was one of the major European composers of the 20th century, and one of the preeminent Polish musicians during his last three decades.
He ( 25 January 1913 – 7 February 1994)  earned many international awards and prizes. His compositions (of which he was a notable conductor) include four symphonies, a Concerto for Orchestra, a string quartet, instrumental works, concertos, and orchestral song cycles.
During his youth, Lutosławski studied piano and composition in Warsaw. His early works were influenced by Polish folk music. His style demonstrates a wide range of rich atmospheric textures. He began to develop his own characteristic composition techniques in the late 1950s. His music from this period onwards incorporates his own methods of building harmonies from small groups of musical intervals. It also uses aleatoric processes, in which the rhythmic coordination of parts is subject to an element of chance.
During World War II, after escaping German capture, Lutosławski made a living by playing the piano in Warsaw bars. After the war, Stalinist authorities banned his First Symphony for being "formalist"—allegedly accessible only to an elite. Lutosławski believed such anti-formalism was an unjustified retrograde step, and he resolutely strove to maintain his artistic integrity. In the 1980s, Lutosławski gave artistic support to the Solidarity movement. Near the end of his life, he was awarded the Order of the White Eagle, Poland's highest honour.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 23, 2013, 12:11:18 PM
Another composer coin

Belarus issued a Commemorative coin on "M. Aginski" on 22 August 2011.

Minted by:The Mint of Poland PLC., Warsaw, Poland

Gold, Alloy standard of gold: 900
Denomination, rubles: 10
Weight of coin, g: 1.00
Fine gold content, g: 0,9
Quality: "proof"
Diameter, mm: 12


The coin is round in shape with a raised rim on the obverse and the reverse. The coin’s edge is plain.
The obverse has: in the center — the relief image of the State Coat of Arms of the Republic of Belarus within a circular geometric pattern; inscriptions: at the top — a circumferential inscription: РЭСПУБЛIКА БЕЛАРУСЬ (THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS), at the bottom — the denomination: 10 РУБЛЁЎ (10 RUBLES) and the year of issue; in the left-hand part — the alloy standard; and in the right-hand part — the trademark of the Mint of Poland PLC.
The reverse has: in the center — the portrait of M. Aginski, a Belarusian, Polish, and Russian political figure and a famous composer; and at the bottom — a facsimile of his signature: Michał Kleofas Ogiński.

Michał Kleofas Ogiński (Lithuanian: Mykolas Kleopas Oginskis, Belarusian: Міхал Клеафас Агінскі) (25 September 1765 - 15 October 1833)[Ogiński served as an adviser to King Stanisław August Poniatowski and supported him during the Great Sejm of 1788–1792. After 1790, he was dispatched to Hague as a diplomatic representative of Poland in the Netherlands and was Polish agent in Constantinople and Paris. In 1793, he was nominated to the office of the Treasurer in Lithuania. During Kościuszko Uprising in 1794, Ogiński commanded his own unit. After the insurrection was suppressed, he emigrated to France, where he sought Napoleon's support for the Polish cause. At that period he saw a creation of the Duchy of Warsaw by the Emperor as a stepping stone to eventual full independence of Poland, and dedicated his only opera, Zelis et Valcour, to Napoleon. In 1810, Ogiński withdrew from political activity in exile and disappointed with Napoleon returned to Vilna. Andrzej Jerzy Czartoryski introduced him to Tsar Alexander I, who made Ogiński a Russian Senator. Ogiński tried in vain to convince the Tsar to rebuild the Polish State. He moved abroad in 1815 and died in 1833 in Florence.
As a composer, he is best known for his polonaise Pożegnanie Ojczyzny (Farewell to Country), written on the occasion of his emigration to western Europe after the failure of the Kościuszko Uprising.


Alan, I am currently working on Belarus so more composers coins will be reported later.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on June 23, 2013, 12:50:17 PM
Belarus issued two Commemorative coins "Napoleon Orda. The 200th Anniversary"  on 6 February 2007

Minted by:The Mint of Poland PLC., Warsaw, Poland

Silver, Alloy standard of silver: 925
Denomination, rubles: 20
Weight of coin, g: 33.63
Fine silver content, g: 31,1
Quality: "proof"
Diameter, mm: 38,61
          
Copper–nickel
Denomination, rubles: 1
Weight of coin, g: 13.16
Quality: "proof–like"
Diameter, mm: 32

The coins are round in shape with the raised rim on the obverse and the reverse. The coins’ edge is grained.
The obverse has: at the top – the relief image of the State Coat of Arms of the Republic of Belarus, in the center – the fragments of the architecture and landscape views of Belarus reproduced from the drawings by N. Orda on the stylized staff, on the right – the year of issue (alloy standard shown in the left–hand part of the silver coin); and circumferential inscriptions: at the top – РЭСПУБЛИКА БЕЛАРУСЬ (THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS) and at the bottom – 20 РУБЛЁЎ (20 RUBLES) on the silver coin and 1 РУБЕЛЬ (1 RUBLE) on the copper–nickel coin.
The reverse has: in the center – the relief portrait of Napoleon Orda, an outstanding artist, composer, and publicist, against the background of bow lines and scattered musical notes; and at the bottom – circumferential inscriptions engraved in two lines: 1807–1883 and НАПАЛЕОН ОРДА (NAPOLEON ORDA).

Napoleon Orda (Belarusian: Напалео́н О́рда)(February 11, 1807 – April 26, 1883) was a Polish-Lithuanian musician, pianist, composer and artist.He travelled through many European countries, including Italy and Switzerland. Finally in 1833, he settled in Paris, where he became one of the prominent members of the Polish diaspora there and one of the close friends of Fryderyk Chopin. He studied piano play under the guidance of Chopin and Franz Liszt and wrote several mazurkas, waltzes and polonaises.

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on July 02, 2013, 10:00:14 PM
Alglasser,

Quite a long silence. Hope everything is fine.

Latvia has issued a coin on Jāzeps Vītols.

Jāzeps Vītols (German: Joseph Wihtol; July 26, 1863, Valmiera – April 24, 1948, Lübeck) was a Latvian composer.
In 1918, Vītols returned from Russia to his newly independent Latvia to conduct the Latvian National Opera. The following year, he established the first Latvian Conservatory of Music, which was later renamed the Jāzeps Vītols Latvian Academy of Music in his honor, and he ran the composition classes there between 1919 and 1944. His most prominent students during his tenure were Jānis Ivanovsand Ādolfs Skulte. He also helped co-found the Latvian Composers' Society in 1923. In 1944, he moved to Lübeck in Germany and lived there until his death in 1948. His remains were returned to Riga in 1993.

His choral music, especially Gaismas pils (The Castle of Light) is very popular with Latvian choirs, and is often included in the repertoire of the Latvian Song and Dance Festival. Vītols vocal and choral works are published by Musica Baltica Ltd in Riga.

He is considered to be the father of a distinctively Latvian classical music, being the first Latvian composer to achieve international stature. His work reveals the undeniable influence of his teacher Rimsky-Korsakov, not least in the brilliance of its orchestration, an assessment which was shared by Vītols' friend and fellow composer Alexander Glazunov. During his time in Russia, Vītols became deeply interested in Latvian folklore and conducted the Latvian Choir in Saint Petersburg. His melodies clearly draw upon his heritage, and often directly feature Latvian folk tunes. In striving to forge a musical style for Latvia, Vītols emulated the processes of the Russian national school. His large-scale works, which are mostly cast in sonata form, are often characterized by impressive dramatic development.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on July 10, 2013, 03:26:37 PM
The coin dedicated to Jāzeps Vītols is a silver collector piece by the way. Costs about 29 LVL or €41 ...
http://www.bank.lv/en/for-media/press-releases/the-bank-of-latvia-issues-a-coin-dedicated-to-jazeps-vitols/8607
http://www.bank.lv/en/money/jazeps-vitols

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on July 14, 2013, 09:52:49 PM
Pabitra and Chrisild, and everyone reading this post. Hello, and thanks for your posts on Vitols. My apologies for not replying sooner. Actually, I have (quite happily) been SO busy with a very enjoyable but demanding part time job. Collecting has taken a back seat but I am posting here a few new acquisitions that I haven't gotten around to putting in the albums in the bank until last Friday. Please excuse the bad quality of the photos...I can't redo them because the coins are not here. The job continues through the first half of August and then I hope to have more time to devote to coins and friends here on the board. Oh, I have 1 new Peruvian Silver Nuevo sol that I have added to the Peru collection. The photos are in the Peru Topic.  My goal is to complete the series of Nuevo soles. Some are not listed so I am "shooting in the dark" and there seems to be some stiff competition for these on E-Bay. I enjoy a challenge.

Best wishes all from Alan in the U.S.A.

The first coin is a Russian 2 Rouble piece dated 2013 and honoring composer A.S. Dargomyzhsky
The second coin is from Germany dated 2013 and honoring composer Richard Wagner. Latvia has also issued a coin commemorating Wagner. I am waiting for an offer of a bit of a better price before I add it to the collection.
The last coin is from Hungary dated 1961. It is a 100 Forint gold piece honoring composer Bela Bartok.  KM-564

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on July 31, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
Hello everyone. Here is a new addition to my composer set that arrived today. By chance I spotted it on E-Bay as I had not known of its existence previously.  It is 2 Dinars of Andorra featuring Frederic Chopin dated 2009. It is not listed in SCWC or on the NGC World Coin site. Not my favorite image of Chopin to be sure. He kinda' looks like he needs the bathroom...really badly!

As a matter of fact, a set of four coins were issued to mark one important year in his life.
here are the images
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on July 31, 2013, 07:35:20 PM
Has this coin from Paraguay been covered?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on July 31, 2013, 07:37:01 PM
What about this coin from Turkey?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on July 31, 2013, 07:38:59 PM
OR this one from Switzerland?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on July 31, 2013, 07:41:49 PM
Or these two from Ukraine?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on August 08, 2013, 02:04:16 PM
I have this coin as Germany 10 Marks 2001.

I do not have much idea about this composer.

Can some one tell me if the design shows his actual composition or is it only a decorative design.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 08, 2013, 02:59:37 PM
Lortzing's most famous works are listed in the edge inscription. :) The depicted notes, however, are from "Faust II" (LoWV op. A6).

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on August 21, 2013, 10:41:56 PM
Hello Christian and everyone. It's nice to be back with "the gang" after a long departure. It's great to see that there are new contributions to this topic...so near and dear to my heart. I have a few more as seen in the scans below. The large silver piece is from Latvia, dated 2013 and commemorates the great German composer Richard Wagner. The piece in the black holder honors Guiseppi Verdi, is also of 2013 and is from Italy. Finally, the coin in the folder honors "Slim Dusty", David Gordon Kirkpatrick, and is known for his Australian country music. It is also dated 2013 and is a $1 piece from Australia.

Best to everyone. Alan

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Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on August 22, 2013, 04:00:57 PM
Is there any coin commemorating Claude Debussy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Debussy)? I didn't know anything about him until I saw today's Google Doodle. :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 22, 2013, 07:47:20 PM
Not sure; he sure was on the 20 francs note of the last FRF series. But that's "paper", not metal. :)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_francs_Debussy (page in French)

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on August 23, 2013, 08:08:28 PM
Hello, Christian and Aditya.

I am not quite sure why Debussy has never been honored on a coin (probably from France?) at least, not to my knowledge. He certainly stands out as a well loved composer (though he is about 100 years later than my favorite musical period). Beautiful impressionistic music. Anyway, I look forward to the time that France will wake up and realize that they have a great composer they can honor on a coin(and add some $ to the French treasury as a result). I have the note...but coins are my forte (no pun intended).

All the best.  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 03, 2013, 08:16:31 PM
Here is another "composer-conductor" coin. :)  Comes in a few days. The Polish central bank plans to issue three pieces (2 zł "Nordic Gold", 10 zł silver, 200 zł gold) dedicated to Witold Lutosławski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold_Lutosławski) on 18 September.

An image of the silver is attached below. You can see all three (also enlarged views) on this page:
http://www.nbp.pl/homen.aspx?f=/en/banknoty/kolekcjonerskie/2013.html#m15

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on September 03, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Hello Christian, and thanks!!!! I'll be on the watch for an example of this coin. I'd print out the post you sent but for the 3rd time in 15 months, my printer has died. The 2nd replacement is due here tomorrow at no additional cost but I'm getting a bit annoyed with the same error message...which basically means the printer is non-repairable. Glad I bought the warranty!!! Wish me luck with printer #3. #2 lasted 1 month to the day!

Alan  >:(
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: natko on September 09, 2013, 05:02:10 PM
Franjo Krezma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franjo_Kre%C5%BEma), composer and violinist on this old thaler sized fantasy piece from 2012.

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on September 15, 2013, 10:46:20 PM
Witold Roman Lutosławski ( 25 January 1913 – 7 February 1994) was a Polish composer and orchestral conductor. He was one of the major European composers of the 20th century, and one of the preeminent Polish musicians during his last three decades. He earned many international awards and prizes. His compositions (of which he was a notable conductor) include four symphonies, a Concerto for Orchestra, a string quartet, instrumental works, concertos, and orchestral song cycles.

Near the end of his life, he was awarded the Order of the White Eagle, Poland's highest honour.

Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on September 16, 2013, 09:06:26 AM
See reply #199. :)  But it does make sense to leave both posts here, as they show different issues.

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on September 18, 2013, 01:02:21 AM
Hi, Christian.

I'm glad both posts appeared for the Lutoslawski issues. Now I have a "visual" of the coins and will recognize them if I run into them on ebay or elsewhere.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on October 05, 2013, 09:56:49 AM
Eesti Pank : The collector coin dedicated to the music of Raimond Valgre will go on sale on 7 October

10/05/2013 | 01:38am US/Eastern

Eesti Pank will issue the silver seven-euro collector coin dedicated to the music of Raimond Valgre on 7 October. The coins will go on sale in the Eesti Pank museum and in SEB offices across Estonia from 1.00pm on 7 October at a price of 35 euros.

The date 7 October 2013 marks the 100th anniversary of the birth of Raimond Valgre, the Estonian composer and musician. The design of the coin features a fragment of the handwritten score for Saaremaa Waltz, the signature of the composer and the nominal value of the coin of seven euros. The front bears the coat of arms of the Republic of Estonia and the year 2013.

The proof-quality silver (Ag 925) collector coin weighs 28.28 grammes and is 38.61 mm in diameter. The total mintage is 7,500 coins. .

The coin was designed by the artist Berbel Lätt. The coins are being minted in the Royal Dutch Mint, the Koninklijke Nederlandse Munt.

The coin commemorating Valgre's music can be bought from the Eesti Pank museum, from the e-shop http://www.post.ee/9508 or from SEB offices across Estonia, more information on which can be obtained from the SEB customer support line 665 5100.

The coins cannot be ordered in advance and each purchaser is limited to twenty coins.

The Eesti Pank Museum at Estonia pst 11, Tallinn, is open from Tuesdays to Fridays 12.00-17.00 and on Saturdays 11.00-16.00. On 7 October the museum will open from 13.00-17.00.

For further information:
Eesti Pank museum shop +372 668 0650
Eesti Pank information line +372 668 0719

Ingrid Mitt
Public Relations Office
Tel: +372 668 0965, +372 512 6843
Email: ingrid [dot] mitt[at] eestipank [dot] ee
Media queries: press[at] eestipank [dot] ee

Source: 4-Traders (http://www.4-traders.com/news/Eesti-Pank--The-collector-coin-dedicated-to-the-music-of-Raimond-Valgre-will-go-on-sale-on-7-Octobe--17324518/)
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 05, 2013, 10:49:11 AM
Here are the details

Raimond Valgre (born Raimond Tiisel; 7 October 1913 – 31 December 1949) was an Estonian composer and musician, whose songs have become some of the most well known in Estonia.[1] During World War II, he was a member of the orchestra of the 8th Estonian Rifle Corps of the Red Army and, as a result of his service on the Eastern Front he became an alcoholic after the war. His music was banned in 1948 by the Soviet authorities. Raimond Valgre died in an accident on 31 December 1949.
The revival of Valgre's compositions began in the Soviet Union of the 1960s. This included Armenian jazz vocalist Tatevik Oganesyan's rendition of "A Little Story in the Music" in her album Day Dream.The biographical feature film Need vanad armastuskirjad ("Those Old Love Letters") followed in 1992. In 2001, guitarist Francis Goya recorded twelve of the composer's song in his album "Pleased to Meet You, Mr. Valgre".
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 05, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
Hello, Bimat and Pabitra...and everyone.  :D

Thank you very much for the information on the Valgre coin. Pieces with musical notation are among my favorites and this one will be watched with interest. I can visualize exactly where the museum is in Tallinn from our visit to that beautiful city a few years back. Anyway, I think I will place an order when they are available on October 7.

Many thanks.    Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 06, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
Hello Alan,
Banjo Patterson is being remembered again in Australia with 3 new coins.
Will let you know the details but here are the images.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 07, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
Hello Pabitra and thanks for the update on Banjo Peterson. I'll watch for your update and thanks so much for the post.

Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 12, 2013, 10:02:39 PM
San Marino may issue 2euro commem coin in 2014 on 90th Ann of death of Giacomo Puccini.

Giacomo Antonio Domenico Michele Secondo Maria Puccini ( 22 December 1858 – 29 November 1924), generally known as Giacomo Puccini, was an Italian composer whose operas are among the most frequently performed in the standard repertoire.
Puccini has been called "the greatest composer of Italian opera after Verdi.While his early work was rooted in traditional late-19th-century romantic Italian opera, he successfully developed his work in the 'realistic' verismo style, of which he became one of the leading exponents.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on October 13, 2013, 01:44:02 AM
Excellent, Pabitra. Thanks for the information. I have only 3 issues for Puccini; from Italy, the Isle of Man and Malawi. Puccini coins could use some new members!

Many thanks.  Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 23, 2013, 08:47:20 AM
Hi Alan,
Poland will issue three coins on Agnieszka Osiecka on Decemeber 5, 2013.

Agnieszka Osiecka (October 9, 1936 in Warsaw, Poland – March 7, 1997) was a poet, writer, author of theatre and television screenplays, film director and journalist. She was a prominent Polish songwriter, having authored the lyrics to more than 2000 songs, and is considered an icon of Polish culture.

Does she qualify as composer, having composed songs?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on November 06, 2013, 06:06:48 PM
Tchaikovsky from Ukraine. Coins released on 4th Nov 2013.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on January 29, 2014, 06:52:46 PM
Portugal to issue a coin in March 2014 on Marcos Portugal.
Marcos António da Fonseca Portugal (March 24, 1762 – February 17, 1830) was a Portuguese classical composer, who achieved great international fame for his operas in Italian.
Portugal was born in Lisbon. He first studied music at the Patriarchal Seminary in Lisbon where, as a 14 year old student, he wrote his first work, a Miserere. He later worked as composer and organist at the Patriarchal See, and was maestro at the Theatre of Salitre in Lisbon. He lived in Italy from late 1792 to 1800, possibly funded by the Prince Regent, D. João. He wrote 21 operas for various Italian theatres, the first being I due gobbi (also known as Confusioni della Somiglianza) premièred in Florence in the spring of 1793. His version of The Marriage of Figaro premièred in Venice in 1799.
Marcos Portugal returned to his home country in 1800. The huge success that his opere buffe had earned him assure him a still unsurpassed international fame in Portuguese music history. He became maestro at the São Carlos National Theatre in Lisbon, and was appointed music master at the Patriarchal Seminary in Lisbon. He continued to write operas, mainly opere serie, and a large number of religious works, until moving to the Portuguese colony of Brazil in 1811, from where the Prince Regent had called him. Upon arriving, Marcos Portugal was appointed music master to the sons and daughters of the Prince Regent, and became the official Royal Composer.
He wrote mainly religious music until at least 1824, date of his last known surviving autograph. In Portugal and Brazil, his reputation rests mainly on his religious music output, a genre cultivated throughout his composing life. He remained in Rio de Janeiro when the Portuguese Court returned to Portugal, in 1821, continuing to serve his pupil, the First Emperor of Brazil, D. Pedro, as he had previously served his father, king John VI of Portugal. He died in Rio de Janeiro in 1830.
In 2010, Bampton Classical Opera presented the UK première of Portugal's The Marriage of Figaro (1799). Marcos Portugal was born six years after Mozart, who had composed his version of Figaro thirteen years prior to Portugal's. Like most theatre composers of the time, Portugal set several librettos that had proven successful for earlier operas, such as Metastasio’s Demofoonte (premièred at La Scala, Milan in 1794) and Artaserse; and he set many stories that had been used before, including Serse, Alceste, Adrasto, Semiramide and Sofonisba. By reusing earlier librettos and stories, composers could expect their audience to follow the story more easily, which is probably why Portugal decided to do his own version of the famous play by Beaumarchais. His librettist was Gaetano Rossi.
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Post by: Pabitra on February 05, 2014, 01:29:55 PM

Belgium is a reluctant issuer of commem coins, unlike its neighbour Luxembourg, which avails all opportunities. Let us see if i succeed in getting a coin issued on 200th birth ann. of Adolphe Sax, the inventor of Saxophone, next year.


Belgium has decided to issue collector coins of Silver and Gold on Adolphe Sax
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Post by: Pabitra on February 18, 2014, 08:35:52 PM
Charles Cammielleri on Malta coin
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Post by: Pabitra on February 22, 2014, 08:52:21 PM
Jean Philippe Rameau on coin from France
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Post by: Alan Glasser on February 22, 2014, 09:20:33 PM
Hello Pabitra!!!

Rameau on a coin...Finally! This is a "must have". Still waiting for Debussy to make an appearance on a French coin but Rameau is most welcome. Thank so much for posting!!!

Alan...snow is melting...only about 4' remaining at the beginning of our driveway!!
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Post by: chrisild on February 22, 2014, 11:03:12 PM
For a French Debussy coin you may have to wait another four years ... or maybe there will be one from another country. :)  Not sure whether we already have this one in the list: Giuseppe Verdi on a Russian 25 ruble piece (silver, 5 oz!) http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/Base_of_memorable_coins/ShowCoins.aspx?cat_num=5115-0092  Image from the central bank's site below. If you go to that page, you can get an enlarged view with a "magnifying glass" function.

Christian

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Post by: Alan Glasser on February 23, 2014, 03:33:17 PM
Hello, Christian, and everyone.

Thank you for posting the Russian Verdi coin. It is gorgeous and I have a particular affinity for the larger pieces.

I am taking the grandson of my neighbor to a large coin show in Massachusetts, USA in the middle of March. It will be his first coin show (He is 17 and an avid collector of U.S. Type coins) and I haven't been to a show in maybe 15 years or more. I hope to do a little hunting for some new additions to my Music Coin set. I wonder what chances are that the Russian Verdi coin will be there? I guess I'll find out.

Anyway, thanks for posting this Verdi coin. Definitely on the "look for" list.

Alan
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Post by: Pabitra on March 18, 2014, 09:50:27 PM
Gioachino Rossini, coin from Italy

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Post by: Andrey5 on March 19, 2014, 02:50:08 PM
Beethoven
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Post by: Figleaf on March 19, 2014, 04:58:35 PM
This may look like a coin commemorating Beethoven's birth in Bonn in December 1770, 150 year before this piece was issued, but it is in fact a cleverly designed emergency issue. Around a year later, in August 1921 hyperinflation started and this token was worthless.

Peter
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Post by: Alan Glasser on April 07, 2014, 07:34:09 PM
Hello to all, and especially those who have so kindly posted new composer coins and coins with other musical "themes".  I really appreciate all of the updates and they are so helpful in keeping me abreast of new issues ...though my buying is on "slow speed" at the moment.

I am attaching photos of a new issue I stumbled on quite by accident honoring British composer Benjamin Britten. It just arrived today and I must say, it will probably rank on a nearly tied basis with the Isle of Man coin honoring the Beegees in the "butt ugly" category. (Isle of Man  The Beegees 50th Anniversary  1 Crown 2009  KM-1414). Still, it's a first coin for Benjamin Britten in my set so I'm pleased to have it.

Again, thanks to all and warm greetings from the U.S.A.

Alan  Massachusetts, U.S.A.

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Post by: Pabitra on April 23, 2014, 06:05:37 PM
The National Bank of Hungary has issued (22nd April) two new coins which honor one of the country's most well-known and respected composers, Béni Egressy (1814 - 1851) best remembered for composing the music to "The Szózat", a famous poem by Hungarian poet Mihály Vörösmarty. The song later became the unofficial "second Hungarian national anthem.

Born as Benjámin Galambos on 21 April 1814 in Sajókazinc (now Kazincbarcika), Egressy was at different times in his career, a composer, actor, playwright and translator. He took the surname "Egressy" from his father Pál Egresi-Galambos, a Reformed Church pastor. He attended the Reformed Church Secondary School in Miskolc and then college in Sárospatak, until his father's death forced him to end his studies and work as a school master and assistant teacher. He later joined the chorus and decided to become an actor and opera singer, following the example of his brother, Gabor Egressy who was an actor in Kassa. He studied music theory and languages and in 1838 he walked to Milan for voice training as he had no money. Returning from one and a half years in Italy, after modest success as an opera singer, he began work as a composer and from 1843 he was a member of the National Theatre. He translated some sixty plays and operas from German, French and Italian. Of his 47 compositions, 35 appeared in print with most of his works in the "verbunkos" style, along with artificial folk songs, and accompaniment for many poems by Petőfi, Tompa and Vörösmarty.

As a Hungarian musician, his work was pioneering in some ways, as it was mainly German-speaking musicians who had worked with artificial folk songs before him. He combined the verses of the greatest poets of that age with the popular Hungarian verbunkos and csárdás musical styles. He authored several plays himself, with Két Sobri (1851) achieving the most success. In 1843, András Bartay, director of the National Theatre, announced a competition for the musical accompaniment of Vörösmarty's poem "Szózat" and it was judged that Egressy's novel submission, which was believed best suited to the spirit of the Reform period. His work was unanimously selected by Vörösmarty himself and by the two greatest musicians of that time in Pest-Buda, Ferenc Erkel and Mihály Mosonyi. Presented in 1843, this work quickly became well-known and even today it stands as a symbolic work and as Hungary's second national anthem.
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Post by: Pabitra on June 03, 2014, 11:26:28 PM
Estonia has issued a coin on 150th birth ann of Miina Harma


Miina Härma (February 9, 1864 – November 16, 1941) was a widely recognised Estonian composer. She was the second Estonian musician with higher education.

Her greatest contribution is perhaps the fact that she took organ music to the countryside, as virtually no skilled organists gave concerts outside of towns.

During her 60-year period of creativity, she wrote more than 200 choral songs, 10 cavatinas, a canto, "Kalev and Linda" and much more. Most of her works were forms of vocal music, rather than instrumentals.
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Post by: Figleaf on June 04, 2014, 12:20:17 PM
Fantastic design! At last, a successful attempt to put the concept of music (rather than yet another musician) on a coin. It's all reduced to a pure tone. Sound on a coin. Brilliant! Is Estonia trying to become the next design country, after Finland? I wish them luck.

Peter
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Post by: chrisild on June 04, 2014, 03:16:21 PM
Is Estonia trying to become the next design country, after Finland?

Some of the earlier Estonian coin are pretty good too. A wide variety methinks:
http://www.eestipank.ee/en/notes-and-coins/estonian-collector-coins

The Miina Härma coin is from Utrecht (minted by the KNM), and will cost €35. Mintage 7,500 ...

Christian
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Post by: Alan Glasser on June 04, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
Hello, Pabitra, Figleaf and Chrisild.

Just popped on for a few minutes today and found your posts regarding the new Miina Harma Estonian Composer coin. Your posts are printed and in my file of "future acquisitions". Thanks so much for the information and commentary.

I also like the design very much and am trying to figure out of it reflects the tuning fork and "overtones"...or just vibrations. Since it is a "composer coin" when I get mine it will go in that category but it will be one of relatively few that don't feature the actual composer's likeness as the main feature. Sort of a nice diversion from the "regular" issues featuring composers. Figleaf, I DO like to see a composer's image on a commemorative coin...but change is nice once in a while.

Surgery is next Wednesday for removal of my 2 "native" kidneys. My transplant of 7 years ago is doing well so they don't think there will be too many complications. I'll post when I'm home and recovered. It might take a while. PKD is a genetic illness and I am the 1 surviver in my family. I have a LOT more to accomplish in life so this little "blip" is just a small inconvenience!

Best to everyone.  Alan in Massachusetts, U.S.A.

 
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Post by: Figleaf on June 04, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
One of the fun things about this sort of design is that it doesn't tell you what to see. No portrait and no notes means you have to make your own music. I see balls in a three-dimensional space, arranged in a strict geometrical pattern. To me, that suggest a pure tone, free of overtones. That, in turn, suggests harmony and high quality, the sort of things a composer would want. There's nothing against portraits and notes, but they concentrate on the person. This coin concentrates on the music, which is a more difficult thing to do, but should be done, because composer and music needs each other. You cannot neglect one or the other.

Best wishes for the transplant, Alan. Whenever things get tough, think of your coins and your music. They are for there for relaxing. Take your time, but do let us know. And take care.

Peter
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Post by: Alan Glasser on June 05, 2014, 12:42:45 AM
Hello, Figleaf.

I took the plunge and ordered the Miina Harma coin. I figured it will be delivered while I'm in the hospital so that will give me an even GREATER incentive to GET OUT OF THERE!!!

Thanks for the kind words. While this isn't an "easy" surgery and recovery, the doctors and surgical team were very pleased with my physical condition and weight and all of the numerous pre-testing exams and they felt this would speed up the recovery.  Still pretty spy for a 63 year old and I topped the charts on the "stress test" (on a treadmill and far exceeded my target numbers).

Alan
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Post by: Pabitra on June 05, 2014, 08:19:51 PM

Surgery is next Wednesday for removal of my 2 "native" kidneys. My transplant of 7 years ago is doing well so they don't think there will be too many complications. I'll post when I'm home and recovered. It might take a while. PKD is a genetic illness and I am the 1 surviver in my family. I have a LOT more to accomplish in life so this little "blip" is just a small inconvenience!


Get well soon, Alan. Wish you a very speedy recovery.
Pabitra
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Post by: Alan Glasser on July 16, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
Hello everyone.

I posted this prior to my hospitalization, but I think I may have later deleted it in error. Anyway, this coin arrived just prior to my hospitalization. It commemorates Marcos Antonio de Fonseca Portugal (1732-1830). The nation of issue is Portugal, 2.5 Euros of 2014. I don't think a KM number has been assigned as yet.

Portugal is recognized for his Operas in the Italian language.

Best to everyone.  Alan

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Post by: Destrans on September 04, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Carlos Seixas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Seixas

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Post by: Pabitra on December 08, 2014, 04:28:32 PM
On 30 January 2015, Finland plans to release a gold and silver coins in honour of the 150th anniversary of composer Jean Sibelius' birth.
The design is provisional and may change
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Post by: Miner on December 18, 2014, 02:01:20 PM
San Marino may issue 2euro commem coin in 2014 on 90th Ann of death of Giacomo Puccini.

Giacomo Antonio Domenico Michele Secondo Maria Puccini ( 22 December 1858 – 29 November 1924), generally known as Giacomo Puccini, was an Italian composer whose operas are among the most frequently performed in the standard repertoire.
Puccini has been called "the greatest composer of Italian opera after Verdi.While his early work was rooted in traditional late-19th-century romantic Italian opera, he successfully developed his work in the 'realistic' verismo style, of which he became one of the leading exponents.

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Post by: Alan Glasser on January 17, 2015, 12:00:40 AM
Hello, everyone.

Alan in Massachusetts here (MusicCoins). It's been much too long since I've been around...something I hope to change soon. Anyway, warm greetings to my past friends here and to all who post new composer coins.

I am looking for a link to, or a photo of a Coin issued by Poland in 1999 to honor Frederic Chopin. I assume it is unique as it contains 12 ounces of gold. I don't think I'll be looking to add this one to my collection anytime soon...but I AM curious as to the design? Does anyone have any information they might share.

Many thanks.   Alan

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Post by: chrisild on January 17, 2015, 12:25:55 AM
Welcome back. ;)  And no, I don't think that Poland (as in, the government/central bank) issued such a piece. This is the NBP's Chopin program (http://www.nbp.pl/homen.aspx?f=/en/banknoty/kolekcjonerskie/1999.html#07) in that year. As you see, a half ounce gold coin, a silver coin (about 14g) and a Nordic Gold (base metal) piece. Now the Mint of Poland (http://www.mennica.com.pl) may have produced such a gold beast for, or in the name of, some other country ...

Christian
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Post by: Pabitra on January 17, 2015, 10:02:09 PM
Hello Alan,
Hope you are not referring to Chopin coin, made by Polish mint for Niue, last year
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Post by: Pabitra on February 10, 2015, 05:02:22 AM
Semyon Stepanovych Gulak-Artemovsky (Ukrainian:Семен Степанович Гулак-Артемовський, also referred to as Semyon Gulak Artemovsky) (February 16 [O.S.February 4] 1813 - April 17 [O.S. April 5] 1873), was aUkrainian opera composer, singer (baritone), actor, and dramatist who lived and worked in Imperial Russia.

He is known mainly for his comic opera Zaporozhets za Dunayem (A Zaporozhian (Cossack) Beyond the Danube), as well as for his dramatic talent and his powerful, richbaritone voice. He was the nephew of the poet Petro Hulak-Artemovsky and a close friend of Taras Shevchenko.
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Post by: Pabitra on March 06, 2015, 02:45:26 AM
UKRAINE - 2 HRYVNIA 2015 "Michael Verbitsky" Composer, anthem
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Post by: Alan Glasser on March 22, 2015, 09:00:26 PM
So many beautiful composer coins, and thanks to all for continuing to post them!!!! I have revived my collecting after a bit of a break and have located many of the examples of new issues so many of you have posted here so again, THANK YOU!

I have discovered a possible music/composer (?) coin but I can't quite identify the musician (I think) who is on it. The coin is "Trade Coinage" from the Isle of Man and dated 1997 with a KM number of 797. From the small photo in the Standard Catalog of World Coins I can make out a bit of the writing on the coin, "Poet and --------- of Irish melodies" and his bust is located "below harp player" as stated in SCWC. Does anyone have any idea who this might be and is he a "composer"? I have tried numerous online sites to see if I can find the answer, but no luck. I would be most grateful for any information. I have all the other composer coins in this series, but I can not find out anything about this one.

Many thanks.

Alan in MA

 
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Post by: Pabitra on March 23, 2015, 01:37:52 AM
The person referred on the coin is Thomas Moore ( 1779 - 1852).
He is referred as "Poet and Author of Irish Melodies".

A poet is an author who writes the lyrics of a poem/ song/ composition.
A composer is one who composes the rhythm / music  of the same.

Thomas Moore (28 May 1779 – 25 February 1852) was an Irish poet, singer, songwriter, and entertainer, now best remembered for the lyrics of "The Minstrel Boy" and "The Last Rose of Summer". He was responsible, with John Murray, for burning Lord Byron's memoirs after his death. In his lifetime he was often referred to as Anacreon Moore.
Moore became best known for these Irish Melodies, which were enormously popular, containing songs apart from the above two, such as "Believe Me If All Those Endearing Young Charms" and "Oft in the Stilly Night". Several examples of his music, such as Farewell! But Whenever You Welcome the Hour are available online.



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Post by: Alan Glasser on March 26, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
Hello, Pabitra.

May I thank you, a little bit late, for your kind and very much appreciated reply to my question about the Thomas Moore coin. Your efforts are always very much appreciated!!!

Now, the question is, will I be able to find a coin on the market and the bigger question, can I afford it??

Thanks SO much.

Alan
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Post by: Pabitra on March 27, 2015, 02:49:27 AM
Hunt for it for that is as pleasurable as holding a beautiful coin in your hand.

You are always welcome.
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Post by: Alan Glasser on March 28, 2015, 09:04:33 PM
Pabitra. You are absolutely right. I enjoy the hunt almost as much as the satisfaction of actually adding the coin to my collection. we think alike!

Best wishes!  Alan
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Post by: Pabitra on April 01, 2015, 07:24:11 AM
On April 1, 2015 the Central Bank of the Russian Federation issued a commemorative coin in denomination of 2 Roubles — „The 175th Anniversary of Composer P.I. Tchaikovsky’s Birth”
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Post by: Pabitra on April 05, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
Sviatoslav Teofilovich Richter (March 20, 1915 – August 1, 1997) was a Soviet pianist known for the depth of his interpretations, virtuoso technique, and vast repertoire. He is considered one of the greatest pianists of the 20th century.

In 1961, Richter's recording with Erich Leinsdorf and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra of the Brahms Piano Concerto No. 2 won the Grammy Award for Best Classical Performance – Concerto or Instrumental Soloist. That recording is still considered a landmark (despite Richter's dissatisfaction with it), as are his studio recordings of Schubert's Wanderer Fantasy, Liszt's two Piano Concertos, Rachmaninoff's Second Piano Concerto and Schumann's Toccata, among many others.

His birth Anniv. is commem by 2 Roubles coin of Russia
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Post by: Alan Glasser on April 05, 2015, 10:08:43 PM
Hello once again, Pabitra.

Richter was a superb pianist and I have already begun the search for the coin for my "Famous Music Performers" set. The Tchaikovsky coin is eagerly anticipated for the "composer" set but I expect it will be a while before they hit the market. This will be a most welcome addition, as will Richter.

There's a terrific bunch of gentlemen (and ladies?) that contribute here so I send a most sincere thanks to one and all.

Alan in MA
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Post by: Pabitra on May 03, 2015, 10:15:05 AM
Hungary - two coins  - 2015 - 2000 & 10000 Forint  coins - Sebestyn "Lantos" Tinodi - 500th birth Anniversary - described as 16th century Minstrel - in absence of technology to communicate music compositions in that period, he could be called a composer of modern times.
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Post by: Pabitra on May 08, 2015, 08:34:43 AM

Finland 10 Euro issued on 1st January 2009


Fredrik Pacius (19.3.1809 – 8.1.1891) was a German-born Finnish composer and conductor who had a significant impact on the rise of the music life of Finland in the 19th century. He has earned the title of ‘the father of Finnish music'.

Fredrik Pacius was born in Hamburg and studied composition and the violin in Kassel. He served for several years as violinist in Stockholm before moving to Helsinki and starting to teach music at the University of Helsinki in 1834.

When Pacius arrived in Helsinki the music scene was unorganized and largely the field of enthusiastic amateurs. In 1838 Pacius formed a male choir, the Akademisk Sångföreningen. Later he also formed the Helsinki Symphonic Society with which he performed to a Helsinki audience works such as those of Mozart, Beethoven and Rossini.

In 1848 the song Our country, composed to a poem written by Runeberg was performed for the first time at a school undergraduates' party on Flora's day in Kumpula, Helsinki. Pacius is said to have composed the music in four days. The song became very popular and became established as the Finnish national anthem at the start of the 1900s.

The song spread outside the country as well. The Estonian national anthem Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja room and the Livonian national anthem Min iz?m?. Both use the same tune by Pacius.

In 1852 the first Finnish opera, composed by Pacius, was completed. This was the Hunt of King Charles in the style of Romantic nationalism. Zacharius Topelius wrote the libretto with Pacius.

Pacius also composed the operas The Princess of Cyprus and Lorelei, orchestral works, chamber music, cantatas and other vocal works. Pacius received a professorship in 1860.
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Post by: Pabitra on May 12, 2015, 07:02:33 PM
A fantasy coin from Catalunya (Spain).
A 25 ECU Silver coin was also issued with identical design.


Pau Casals i Defilló (December 29, 1876 – October 22, 1973), known during his professional career as Pablo Casals, was a Spanish Catalan cellist and conductor. He is generally regarded as the pre-eminent cellist of the first half of the 20th century, and one of the greatest cellists of all time. He made many recordings throughout his career, of solo, chamber, and orchestral music, also as conductor, but he is perhaps best remembered for the recordings of the Bach Cello Suites he made from 1936 to 1939.

In 1899, Casals played at The Crystal Palace in London, and later for Queen Victoria at Osborne House, her summer residence, accompanied by Ernest Walker. On November 12, and December 17, 1899, he appeared as a soloist at Lamoureux Concerts in Paris, to great public and critical acclaim.

He settled in the French Catalan village of Prada de Conflent, near the Spanish Catalan border; between 1939 and 1942 he made sporadic appearances as a cellist in the unoccupied zone of southern France and in Switzerland. So fierce was his opposition to the dictatorial regime of Francisco Franco in Spain that he refused to appear in countries that recognized the authoritarian Spanish government. He made a notable exception when he took part in a concert of chamber music in the White House on November 13, 1961, at the invitation of President John F. Kennedy, whom he admired. On December 6, 1963, Casals was awarded the U.S. Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Casals was also a composer. Perhaps his most effective work is La Sardana, for an ensemble of cellos, which he composed in 1926. His oratorio El Pessebre was performed for the first time in Acapulco, Mexico, on December 17, 1960. He also presented it to the United Nations during their anniversary in 1963. He was initiated as an honorary member of the Epsilon Iota Chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia music fraternity at The Florida State University in 1963. He was later awarded the fraternity's Charles E. Lutton Man of Music Award in 1973.

One of his last compositions was the "Hymn of the United Nations". He conducted its first performance in a special concert at the United Nations on October 24, 1971, two months before his 95th birthday. On that day, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, U Thant, awarded Pablo Casals the U.N. Peace Medal in recognition of his stance for peace, justice and freedom. Casals accepted the medal and made his famous "I Am a Catalan" speech, where he stated that Catalonia had the first democratic parliament, long before England did.
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Post by: Alan Glasser on July 19, 2015, 11:07:42 PM
Hello, everyone.

My long awaited Vanuatu coin of Frederic Chopin (2014 20 Vatu) arrived about a week ago after a long wait due to the German airplane/mail strike. I have attached a link to the photos (which aren't the best because of my VERY limited skills in that area). Anyway, I am hoping someone out there may have some of the specifications for the piece, mintage, weight, silver fineness...and I'd be grateful for anything anyone could provide.

Thanks so much!  Alan in MA

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Post by: Pabitra on July 19, 2015, 11:15:42 PM
Recently issued coin from Niue Islands on Frederic Chopin


Obverse added
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Post by: Pabitra on July 31, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s (1756-1791) impact on Austrian culture is just as vital today as it was when the young prodigy took the Viennese opera scene by storm at the age of 16 when he composed his first opera, “Bastien und Bastienne”. To celebrate his musical genius, The Austrian Mint will issue a three-coin silver coin series entitled, “Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: A Life in Three Acts.”

Each coin will be struck in .900 silver and carry a 20-euro face value. The first coin in the series will be issued in September 2015. Coins two and three are scheduled for release in 2016.
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Post by: Pabitra on August 03, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Hello Alan,
Congratulations on publishing the book on this topic.
Saw the website too.

http://www.composercoins.com

Well done indeed.
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Post by: Alan Glasser on August 12, 2015, 09:08:42 PM
Hello, Pabitra.

You are most kind in your complements of the book. To clarify, I am the Contributing Editor and the credit really goes to R. Kevin Paul who implemented the idea of creating a book on the topic of Composer Coins. The Full title is: "The Complete Guide to Collecting Composer Coins; Music-Related World Coins with Variations on a Composer theme". I know it has been a work of love for Kevin and it is my pleasure and honor to have been asked to contribute. Information has come from many sources, including the many kind people here on WOC, from my own collection, auction houses, E-Bay and numerous other sources and references on World Coins. With the popularity of new world issues featuring composers, keeping up is a most enjoyable challenge. I particularly get real excitement when I discover an older coin that somehow got overlooked. The work is ongoing and I look forward to working with Kevin well into the future on the second edition and others in years upcoming.
Thank you, Pabitra!!!    Alan
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 13, 2015, 11:02:16 AM
Thank you, Pabitra. A work of research that sees the light of day is always enjoyable, even more so when it is a collaborative effort. Well done, Alan. May it inspire readers to look at coins in a different way. Glad you could use WoC as a research platform. Even today, a new music coin (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,10278.msg206429.html#msg206429) was added to the site.

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on August 17, 2015, 03:39:34 AM

Alexander Konstantinovich Glazunov(10 August 1865 – 21 March 1936) was a Russian composer of the late Russian Romantic period, music teacher and conductor. He served as director of the Saint Petersburg Conservatory between 1905 and 1928 and was also instrumental in the reorganization of the institute into the Petrograd Conservatory, then the Leningrad Conservatory, following the Bolshevik Revolution. He continued heading the Conservatory until 1930, though he had left the Soviet Union in 1928 and did not return.
Glazunov's most popular works nowadays are his ballets The Seasons and Raymonda, some of his later symphonies, particularly the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth, the Polonaise from Les Sylphides, and his two Concert Waltzes. His Violin Concerto, which was a favorite vehicle for Jascha Heifetz, is still sometimes played and recorded. His last work, the Saxophone Concerto (1934), showed his ability to adapt to Western fashions in music at that time.
Glazunov died in Neuilly-sur-Seine (near Paris) at the age of 70 in 1936. The announcement of his death shocked many. They had long associated Glazunov with the music of the past rather than of the present, so they thought he had already been dead for many years.

In 1972 his remains were reinterred in Leningrad.

The coin is face value 2 Roubles.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on August 21, 2015, 05:11:53 AM
Michał Kleofas Ogiński (25 September 1765 – 15 October 1833) was a Polish composer, diplomat, politician and Grand Treasurer of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

As a composer, he is best known for his polonaise Pożegnanie Ojczyzny (Farewell to the Homeland), written in 1794 on the occasion of his emigration to western Europe after the failure of the Kościuszko Uprising.This piece, with its unreservedly melancholic melodies and fantasia-like passages, can be considered one of the earliest examples of Romanticism in music, preempting Frédéric Chopin by approximately a quarter-century. His polonaises influenced an entire generation of Polish composers, including Maria Szymanowska, Franciszek Lessel, and Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński.

The coin will be issued on 11th Sept.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Figleaf on August 21, 2015, 06:40:36 AM
Nice design. Good attempt to picture the concept of music. Is the right side of the head some national (Polish?) border?

Peter
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on August 21, 2015, 06:52:48 AM
Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on September 22, 2015, 05:18:59 AM
Did I forget to cover this coin on Richter by Russia?
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 04, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
Latvia 5 Euro 2015
Emīls Dārziņš (born November 3, 1875, died on 31 August 1910) was a Latvian composer and music critic. He wrote a number of pieces for orchestra, of which only "Melancholy Waltz" remains.
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on October 11, 2015, 05:03:25 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33268.0;attach=57264;image)

Antônio Carlos Gomes (1836-1896), was the first New World composer whose work was accepted by Europe. The only non-European who was successful as an opera composer in Italy, during the "golden age of opera", contemporary to Verdi and Puccini and the first composer of non-European lineage to be accepted into the Classic tradition of music.

Younger than Verdi, yet older than Puccini, Carlos Gomes achieved his first major success in a time when the Italian audiences were eager for a new name to celebrate and Puccini had not yet officially started his career. After the successful premiere of Il Guarany, Gomes was considered the most promising new composer. Verdi said his work was an expression of "true musical genius". Liszt said that “it displays dense technical maturity, full of harmonic and orchestral maturity.”

 
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Pabitra on November 13, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Vassilis Tsitsanis (18 January 1915 – 18 January 1984) was a Greek songwriter and bouzouki player. He became one of the leading Greek composers of his time and is widely regarded as one of the founders of modern Rebetika. Tsitsanis wrote more than 500 songs and is still remembered as an extraordinary bouzouki player.

Greece 5 Euro 2015
Title: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Bimat on April 11, 2016, 07:31:56 AM
Austria €20 (2016): Mozart Series: Amadeus: The Genius

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35067.0;attach=61386;image)

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35067.0;attach=61387;image)

Aditya
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: chrisild on August 30, 2016, 03:01:30 PM
By the way, Al's book (if I may say so) has just been featured here:

(en) http://www.coinsweekly.com/en/News/For-collectors-of-coins-featuring-depictions-of-composers/4?&id=4253
(de) http://www.muenzenwoche.de/de/News/Fuer-die-Sammler-von-Muenzen-mit-Komponistendarstellungen/4?&id=4253

Christian
Title: Re: Music: Composers on Coins
Post by: Alan Glasser on September 01, 2016, 01:25:29 AM
Hello, Chrisild, and other readers and participants in this column.

I am pleased that the book on the subject of coins featuring composers has garnered so much interest and I appreciate your bringing the terrific article about the book to my attention. I do need to point out that while I did participate in providing listings and updating information, the credit goes to Kevin Paul for all of his hard work and research required to assemble such a well written and useful guide to the topic. I refer to my copy constantly and putting a "check" next to a new addition to my collection is always enjoyable. My goal is to put a check next to every entry in Kevin's book and I am pleased to continue to send to Kevin, updates, suggestions and new composer coin "finds". Some members of this column assist in this as well and I know I can speak for Kevin when I send sincere thanks to you all.

I started my collection of composer coins when I was about 16 and my mother made a trip to Europe. She brought home to me an example of an Austrian coin featuring Mozart (KM-2881) and that was the start of literally a lifetime passion. Numerous members of World of Coins have helped me along the way and I clearly remember "Figleaf", who does so much wonderful work on the board, located and negotiated my acquisition of Togo KM-160 honoring Richard Wagner. This piece eluded me for years and even the Bank of Tonga had no record of its issuance. So my collection is really the work of many collectors and every single one is appreciated.

If I started at 16 years of age, in October of this year, it will be 50 years that I have been working on my set of composer coins. Now with a grandson and may activities in which I am involved since retiring 10 years ago (kidney transplant), my love for this avenue of collecting remains strong and I am happy to report that just last week I located and ordered an elusive $5 coin again honoring Mozart from Nauru (no KM number as yet). I always look forward to receiving messages in my in-box that I have a note from World of Coins and someone kindly has posted a listing of another new composer coin.   

Anyway, thanks to Chrisild, Pabitra and MANY members or WOC who have been and remain so helpful in the pursuit of my hobby.

Best to you all!!!   Alan    ;)