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Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on November 24, 2008, 06:07:17 PM
In general I buy from a few dealers around here (walk-in or web stores). One problem when you buy from "far away" is the shipping charges. Even worse, from time to time you may need to return an item ... Another issue that needs to be taken into account here is the sales tax - VAT, USt, BTW, TVA, you name it. When I buy collector coins or sets here, I pay 7% tax. When I buy the same piece(s) from a dealer in France for example, I would have to pay 20%. Not sure what the VAT rate for coins is in Cyprus and Malta, but I doubt it pays off to order directly from there.

Christian
Title: Other new 2 € commems planned for 2009.
Post by: Figleaf on November 25, 2008, 02:05:06 AM
I'll stock a roll of the Dutch version when they come out and send copies at cost (face plus postage) to any member of this site. I'd appreciate others doing the same ...

Peter
Title: Other new 2 € commems planned for 2009.
Post by: BC Numismatics on November 25, 2008, 10:04:34 AM
Peter,
  Let's hope that Kevin will be able to supply us with the Irish version once it comes out.

I've found out why coins are so expensive to import from Cyprus.You've actually got to fill in an application form & actually post it off to the Central Bank of Cyprus in Nicosia.If your application is successful,you get to buy them,plus there is a commission,plus taxes on top.

There's a discussion up on http://www.numisforum.eu regarding this.

Aidan.
Title: Other new 2 € commems planned for 2009.
Post by: chrisild on November 25, 2008, 11:56:15 AM
I'll stock a roll of the Dutch version when they come out and send copies at cost (face plus postage) to any member of this site. I'd appreciate others doing the same ...
Hear hear ... I mean, here here. :)

This may end up being a little expensive for those who want all coins. (Think of the Euro/EMU commems alone - one would end up paying the shipping charges for coins from 16 different sources.) In this case it may be less costly to pick them up at, say, the World Money Fair.

But if anybody wants the German "10 Years Euro" and/or "Saarland" €2 coins, just holler. I cannot tell yet what mint mark they will have - I will have whatever the Bundesbank branch office in Düsseldorf gets. ;) As mentioned above, the first one will be issued in early January, the second one comes in early February.

Christian
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on January 13, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
Hmmmm....  I am a newbie here, so I suppose it is too early to say this, but maybe I could help with the Spanish one.

As chrisild said, sometimes it is not interesting, as if you need just one, you will overpay the shipping costs. Somebody may have a good idea about it.

I have some friends here, so when we need anything, we usually swap rolls that we share. So you share the coins and you also share the shipping cost. I don't know whether some of you may come from the same area.

And regarding the Spanish one, I'm afraid that it is not available yet. Maybe by the begining of February. You know, Spain is different ;D
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on January 13, 2009, 11:56:40 PM
Thanks, izotz. That's three countries covered. Let's hope there'll be more ...

On shipping cost, for me the obvious solution would be to exchange trading lists and ee if you can fatten those packages or to include some silver regional issues.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: platteauo on January 14, 2009, 06:22:17 PM
When I do a SWAP with another collector, nor him nor me ask shipping charge; only the coin exchange value or 1/1.  For me, I suppose the shipping cost are almost the same in the both hand.  I don't know !

According to me, the main thing is the both swappers are satisfied.

But if I buy coin on internet, I look at the shipping cost. 
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on January 14, 2009, 06:30:27 PM
That's ok, platteauo, but the matter is that if both of us have a 2€ coin for swapping, the cost (for both) of the shipping will be bigger than the money we save to avoid the coin dealer shop (although the swapping experience when you meet new collectors is priceless  ;D ).
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: platteauo on January 14, 2009, 06:55:14 PM
Ok !  I hadn't very well understood the "subject".

Well, it depend if the coins are rare or not and in which condition (if you can found it easily) ; and how far from your home is the dealer (how many are the cost of your car if you go to this dealer ?).

If you often see your correspondant, wait the next time you will see him to exchange the coins.

Or if it is a regular correspondant, wait he had other coins to propose you.

And if it is a new correspondant, you will have the pleasure to have a new one  :)
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value.
Post by: BC Numismatics on January 14, 2009, 09:38:58 PM
Olivier,
  If you decide to swap a Belgian 2 Euros for a Spanish one,you could get around charging for postage by enclosing an International Reply Coupon,which can be exchanged from one country to another to pay the postage back.

Aidan.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on January 14, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
Olivier makes a valid point. If you don't live in a city where there are dealers, the equation changes. The nearest dealer that I know who'd supply euro coins is in Amsterdam. The trip would cost around €27.20 by car (taking the fiscally correct price of €0.19/km) plus parking charges (another €8 to 10) or €15.80 for the train part plus two bus trips. Ouch.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on January 14, 2009, 10:22:17 PM
Engineers love to look for the minimums on equations   :P :

If you live in Madrid, you may get a Spanish roll. You swap it with other collector, you get another country's one. The post office will tell you about the shipping cost.  Next time you may go to "Plaza Mayor" (numismatic flea market) by public transport : 1€ per single ticket, less if you buy the 10 trips ticket or even less if you buy the monthly ticket (as I do). Then, what you only have to do is to find 24 other collectors to share that treasure (the number maybe different if you get an Italian roll, for example).

I suppose that is why you can find so many engineers on big cities ;D

Oh, well, I must admit I chose the best environment for that situations. The real experiment may differ a little bit.

I understand what you say. I was born in a little town, in that time where nobody knew what Internet was, so so long ago  ;)
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on January 24, 2009, 05:30:31 PM
Hi all,
I really appreciate the initiative taken by Christian..But what about collectors (like me) outside Europe or Eurozone? Here in India,commemorative Euro coins are rarely found,and they are sold for very high price,for example,the Spanish 2 Euro Don Quizote commemorative is sold for about 300 Indian Rupees,which is double of face value.That is the reason why I haven't got a single Rome treaty commemorative coin for my collection  :'( Even the 1 Euro coins are sold for 95INR (Face value: 65-70 INR) for used condition and 110-120 INR for UNC >:( I really hate this! Any solution for this problem?

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: platteauo on January 24, 2009, 05:44:48 PM
Try to find a correspondant with you be able to do swap or other arrangment. 

Or try ebay or the site of the mint of the country which make the coin.  Now, many national bank have a online shop.

But do a swap is very funny and more cheaper :-) !
Title: Funny that
Post by: izotz on January 24, 2009, 06:21:40 PM
It's funny for me right now that an Indian tells me that selling a coin at twice its double value it's too high.

On one hand, in the eurozone it's quite normal that common 2€ coins are sold for 3€. 

On the other hand, recently an Indian collector wanted to sell to me some common Indian coins at least 15 times their face value. And I have proof he is on some "good collectors" list, so I suppose he may be honest with them.

As platteauo said, the good choice for you could be some swapping. Any eurozone collector can get for you Don Quijote, Treaty of Rome or EMU coins, as long as you can swap any Indian coin with him at face value  (or not). Would you do that? I would bet you wouldn't as we tend to value more the things we have.

Anyway, again for all collectors, I went to Banco de España (Spanish Bank) this week, but the EMU coin has not yet been released. When I have more news, I will tell you all about it.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on January 24, 2009, 06:31:32 PM
Numismatica, just to prove izotz right, I am going to send you my list of duplicates and my want list f Indian Republic coins :)

Watch your mail box!

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on January 24, 2009, 06:35:11 PM
It's funny for me right now that an Indian tells me that selling a coin at twice its double value it's too high.

On one hand, in the eurozone it's quite normal that common 2€ coins are sold for 3€. 

On the other hand, recently an Indian collector wanted to sell to me some common Indian coins at least 15 times their face value. And I have proof he is on some "good collectors" list, so I suppose he may be honest with them.


Hi izotz,
Indian Rupee is much weaker as compared to euro..If I swap Indian coins  for Euro coins according to the face value,I will not get more than 4 Euros,even if I send all the commemoratives of India (1R,2R,5R).If we both decide to swap by their catalog value,the picture will not change much since Indian commemoratives don't have large catalog value,but Euro coins do have.If I buy through E-bay,I will have to spend large amount of money just for shipping.(For registered air-mail,foreign dealers ask for minimum of 10$).Regarding your experience that one Indian collector asked you 15 times face value for Indian coins.I won't say that he is completely wrong,because Indian commemorative coins are sold in Indian market for that value,and Indian commemoratives are not so easily found in circulation.Opinions change from person from person.

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on January 24, 2009, 06:42:38 PM
Numismatica, just to prove izotz right, I am going to send you my list of duplicates and my want list f Indian Republic coins :)

Watch your mail box!

Peter
Hi Peter,
I will be waiting for your mail. :)I haven't got it yet.

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on January 25, 2009, 12:38:04 AM
Dear Aditya,

I understand what you are talking about, but ...

If I buy through E-bay,I will have to spend large amount of money just for shipping.
It happens the same to me when I want to buy a coin from India (and even from other euro countries).

Regarding your experience that one Indian collector asked you 15 times face value for Indian coins.I won't say that he is completely wrong,because Indian commemorative coins are sold in Indian market for that value,and Indian commemoratives are not so easily found in circulation.Opinions change from person from person.
So, the problem does not seem to be that euro coins get to India with a price of twice its face value. This seem to be logical as dealers sometimes get their coins at face value + overprice, then the shipping cost and, of course, they get a some benefit.
Maybe the problem for collectors comes when government / banks issue coins and make it difficult for collectors get the coins : sometimes they set a strange way to deliver, or they put them directly into the hands of major dealers, etc.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on January 25, 2009, 03:06:15 PM
Hi izotz,
The effect of selling Indian coin 15 time face value (For example 1 Rupee coin is sold for 15 Rupees) is much less than selling 1 Euro (=66 Rupees) double its face value (=120 Rupees).Paying 15 INR (=about quarter Euro) is not at all a bad deal,since it happens in India itself.I know it is wrong,but we can't help!

Maybe the problem for collectors comes when government / banks issue coins and make it difficult for collectors get the coins : sometimes they set a strange way to deliver, or they put them directly into the hands of major dealers, etc.
Well,this problem is more prominent in India.My experience is that most of the commemoratives of India have disappeared from circulation.In case of newly released coins,they are rarely found in circulation.For example,The Dandi March commemorative issued in 2005,is still being sold for 50-75 Indian Rupees.Same coin was being sold for 300-400 Rupees about year ago,which is much highr than its catalog value too.(3$).You should have some strong contacts in the coin issuing organization (RBI in our case).Then only you can get commemoratives immediately after their release.Otherwise,If you have enough patience,you should be ready to wait to get them after indefinite time period,else buy them from dealers at higher value.But I agree,the problem is same everywhere!

Aditya
Title: Re: Other new 2 € commems planned for 2009.
Post by: Figleaf on January 26, 2009, 06:11:23 PM
I'll stock a roll of the Dutch version when they come out and send copies at cost (face plus postage) to any member of this site. I'd appreciate others doing the same ...

I got the roll. However, the banks got really greedy and wanted a fee for letting me have it, so I have to add a few cents. Please let me know if you want one or more copies.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on January 27, 2009, 05:44:23 PM
Dear Aditya,

I understand what you are talking about, but ...
It happens the same to me when I want to buy a coin from India (and even from other euro countries).
So, the problem does not seem to be that euro coins get to India with a price of twice its face value. This seem to be logical as dealers sometimes get their coins at face value + overprice, then the shipping cost and, of course, they get a some benefit.
Maybe the problem for collectors comes when government / banks issue coins and make it difficult for collectors get the coins : sometimes they set a strange way to deliver, or they put them directly into the hands of major dealers, etc.
Hi izotz,
As far as possible,do not buy (at-least Republic India coins) from E-bay India.I will not comment on other coins,but the prices of these coins are really too high on E-bay India.You may get the same coin in European market for much lower price! ebay.com is much better option!

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 05, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
For selfish reasons, I am a bit disappointed with the lack of interest in the Dutch version of the deuro for the euro. I'd hoped to get a few more versions by trading with you ...

(http://www.muenzenmagazin.de/startseite0804/img/2Euro-WWU-2009_rs.jpg)

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on February 05, 2009, 06:42:22 PM
For selfish reasons, I am a bit disappointed with the lack of interest in the Dutch version of the deuro for the euro. I'd hoped to get a few more versions by trading with you ...

I also thought that more people could be interested on sharing this. Maybe it is not so good idea for those who can get a 2€ coin for about 3€ in the market, as shipping may be a high cost when you swap.

Anyway, I'm trying to get more countries for little more than face value, but I'm not sure about this.   ??? I'll tell you something soon.

And of course, no more news about the Spanish EMU coin.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: blackev on February 05, 2009, 10:16:36 PM
Hi ALL,

First of I would like to apologies for my lack of activity recently, I don't get much spare time nowadays, I have tried to read new posts when I can and I understand that most of us are looking for all the EMU coins (Aidan yes the Ireland EMU is issued as of the Malta and Cyprus EMU).

I recently set up a method to offer all EMU coins to those who wish to participate.
I made the post on another forum and if you wish to participate it would be best to do so from the original post.

Below I have quoted the post although it would be best to respond to the original.

Here is the link to the original post (http://www.euroswapper.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16927) however if this link is not allowed then please PM me for the link.

I hope you all think this is a fair exchange and I look forward to your participation, (Figleaf although a participant for the Netherlands EMU has been found I will still accept another participant [this goes for everyone else too])

Regards,
-blackev

Quote
Hi all, Thank you for your interest in this post.

I am sure that most collectors here want all the 20 EMU coins, many of you have already made arrangements to get them, although I am sure that there are many of you that are still looking for the full 20 EMU coins (perhaps for your self or for a friend).

I hope to make a proposal that is fair to both parties, you & me.

Currently I have 8 of the 20 EMU coins.
Cyprus/Greece/Germany (G) (D)/Ireland/Luxembourg/Malta & Portugal.

obviously I still require the other 12 EMU coins.

I need swappers that can provide these missing coins.

If you have one of these missing coins and want to take part in this swap please simple respond to this post declaring the coin you can provide.

When and most importantly IF we get providers of all the missing coins then the swapping can begin (of course with the restriction of the release date of Italy and Spain).

When we get providers of all the coins I will send a PM to each participant.

So what is the swap?

Lets say you are from Germany and can provide the German EMU (J), you will send to me 25 of that coin, in return you will receive all 20 EMU coins.
It will be your responsibility for the arrival of the 25 coins (so you can choose either registered or standard shipping the risk is your choice).

When the coins arrive to me they will be stored until I have all 20 EMU coins (this is due to the late issue date of Spain and Italy).

When all 20 EMU coins have been received they will be sorted into packages containing 1 of each of the 20 EMU coins.
The packages will then be sent to each participant via registered/insured post.

So whats in it for you?

It will cost you €50 + the cost to ship the 25 coins + the time/effort to get the 25 coins from the bank.
You will receive all 20 EMU coins and only have to make one swap.
It is your judgment as to whether or not you find this a beneficial offer.

So whats in it for me?

It will cost me €40 for the 20 coins I am providing + it will cost me €7.85 for registered shipping + the extra cost I paid for the Malta and Luxembourg EMU + the time and effort and cost to organize and post the coins.
because there is a difference of 5 coins I will effectively get 5 EMU coins for face value per transaction.

Important Notes:
1. All coins MUST be UNCIRCULATED.
2. The swapping will only take place if all required participants are found.
3. The first participant of each type will be accepted, subsequent participants may be accepted.
4. Participants may make more than one swap at the same time reducing the shipping cost and thus saving, - please see responses for more detail.

Required EMU:
Germany (A)
Germany (D) - blackev
Germany (G) - blackev
Germany (F)
Germany (J)
France
Spain
Netherlands - Luit
Austria - JackBlack
Belgium
Ireland - blackev
Greece - blackev
Italy
Slovakia
Finland
Luxembourg - blackev
Portugal - blackev
Cyprus - blackev
Slovenia - Luit
Malta - blackev

Regards,
-blackev
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value.
Post by: BC Numismatics on February 05, 2009, 10:23:58 PM
Kevin,

You will be very pleased to know that my boss is now in Berlin,so he will be getting me the E.M.U. 2 Euros from Cyprus,Ireland,& Malta.

I hope that you will come & join those 2 communities as well.

Aidan.
Title: Re: Other new 2 € commems planned for 2009.
Post by: Figleaf on February 13, 2009, 08:34:35 PM
I got the roll. However, the banks got really greedy and wanted a fee for letting me have it, so I have to add a few cents. Please let me know if you want one or more copies.

I got a roll of the Belgian version also, this time without the surcharge. Please let me know if you want one or more copies.

Peter
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value.
Post by: BC Numismatics on February 13, 2009, 08:40:38 PM
Kevin,

You will be very pleased to know that my boss is now in Berlin,so he will be getting me the E.M.U. 2 Euros from Cyprus,Ireland,& Malta.

Aidan.

My boss never got around to getting me these 3 coins,but he did get me a set of the British 2008 new coins,plus some more Zimbabwean notes though.

Aidan.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on February 14, 2009, 07:22:49 AM
I got a roll of the Belgian version also, this time without the surcharge. Please let me know if you want one or more copies.

Peter
Hi Peter,
I would be interested in the Belgian version ;)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on April 09, 2010, 09:47:19 AM
The €5 Max Havelaar will be issued on 17th May. There will be three versions:


Please let me know if you want any of these. If you want the gold version, I'll have to ask pre-payment.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: a3v1 on April 09, 2010, 02:43:39 PM
Peter,
Perhaps you should have added that the Circulation version is in silver clad copper.
Regards,
a3v1
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on May 06, 2010, 03:17:40 AM
Later this month, I will be in Cyprus. I'd be happy to go shopping for other members. Is there some kind of mint sales office in Nicosia?

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on May 06, 2010, 03:20:30 AM
The €5 Max Havelaar will be issued on 17th May. There will be three versions:

  • Circulation version @ €5, incuse lettering
  • "€5" silver proof version @ €32,95, relief lettering
  • "€10" gold proof version @ €277,95, relief lettering

Please let me know if you want any of these. If you want the gold version, I'll have to ask pre-payment.

It's almost 17th May and you'll never get them cheaper!

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on June 17, 2010, 12:42:36 PM
Got mine today - the base metal version of the Havelaar coin, that is. Thank you, Peter! The design is interesting; the portrait of Queen Beatrix they use an interesting relief technology, similar to a latent or multiview image. Neat. The other side is well done too, although I would have preferred the "hand written" text to be a little less miniaturized. But the pen or quill "hitting the spot" is a good idea ...

Christian
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on June 17, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
Thank you for your offer, Peter. As I don't usually collect that type of conmemorative coins (although I have a few of them that I found interesting) I didn't ask it from you.

But I heard that it could be bought at face value from the mint, and I couldn't help buying it. Best of all is that I was not charged any shipping expense. I received mine by regular post (not registered letter), so it is always a risk, but I was lucky.

Some friends of mine had no problem with this. They set a maximum amount of 2 pieces per client, which I find enough.

You may find it here :
http://www.knm.nl/Max-Havelaar-Vijfje-2010-in-creditcardverpakking/nl/product/243/
I didn't find an option to translate it into English, but I had no problem with the shopping.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on June 17, 2010, 01:20:06 PM
I didn't find an option to translate it into English, but I had no problem with the shopping.

The Spanish version is here (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knm.nl%2FMax-Havelaar-Vijfje-2010-in-creditcardverpakking%2Fnl%2Fproduct%2F243%2F&sl=nl&tl=es), FYI. ;D

Seriously, before the "relaunch" the KNM website also had an English version. But that was not updated as frequently as the Dutch version anyway, and I guess they simply did away with it. Peter sent my Havelaar piece along with a bunch (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,6481.0.html) of coins, so this extra one did not make any difference postage-wise, I suppose. By the way, the coin cards have become better - used to be that the transparent cover was only on one side while the other side of the coin was open, exposed to fingers, etc. Now both sides are protected or covered ...

Christian
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on June 19, 2010, 04:25:51 PM
I am still hoping to get people in more countries interested in exchanging new euro issues. So what if the postage is extra? The great reactions and the nice coins you get in return are ample compensation.

BTW, I still have some copies of this and "older" euro pieces...

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Prosit on June 19, 2010, 06:56:38 PM
I am always interested in new issues.  However, I don't have any Euros to swap and most of the stuff I do have to swap, nobody wants.
That is the price I pay for collecting mostly junk  :)

Dale
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on June 19, 2010, 08:15:16 PM
Austrian tokens (and US transportation and tax tokens) are OK with me. Let me know what you want.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on October 17, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
I now have WoC trading partners for new euro issues from Germany, Austria, Portugal and Spain. Please let me know if you want me to intermediate to get on their trading list. I cover the Netherlands and welcome members of WoC. Are there people from other euro countries among our new members who can help building the trading new issues network?

Peter
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on October 17, 2010, 01:11:52 PM
I'm still not sure about the euro collector coins.No doubt many of them are nicely designed and have some nice themes,but at the end,the list of such collector coins is very large;even if we consider only those coins which were issued for face value.So right now,I have decided to collect only Portuguese euro collector coins,along with commemorative €2 coins (by type),hoping that my salary amount will be a decent number :D

BTW,I know some very good trading partners from following countries,let me know if you need their contact details.I have been trading with them for about 2 years now and they are very reliable :) Those countries are:

Belgium,Italy,Germany,Slovenia,Finland,Greece,Portugal,The Netherlands,Spain..

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on November 30, 2010, 06:22:11 PM
I will go to the bank in a few days  ;)

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,4959.msg52772.html#msg52772

(http://www.fnmt.es/content/imagenes/mmcc/10/20_campeones/20Euros_campeones_baja.jpg)
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Rasmus on January 11, 2011, 06:48:32 PM
Well, if anybody need, I can provide estonian ones...
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on January 11, 2011, 06:58:06 PM
Thank you! As far as I am concerned, I got the Estonian circulation coins from a fellow collector here in DE, but your offer has been duly noted for future use. ;)

Christian
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on February 03, 2011, 12:14:26 AM
I got a few Germany mint A 2€ CC. Thanks to chrisild for the information provided.  :)
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Coinsforever on February 03, 2011, 02:42:55 AM
Viable and excellent initiative for new commemoratives coins , I hope it has been working well please share you experience for:
1. EU & rest of world collectors &
2.Indians collectors

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 03, 2011, 12:21:16 PM
As for the euro, see this table (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8451.0.html). New names are still being added. This circle will be round one day. Please help me achieve that by asking your trading friends to join the circle.

For Indian coins, bilateral trading is more appropriate. I get my Indian new issues from two active and energetic members while helping them with euro coins. We have enough traders on the site to make such arrangements and they are in all continents. More in this thread (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,4986.0.html). The real problem is not finding partners but postal rules and (lack of) service.

Peter
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on February 03, 2011, 12:48:21 PM
As far as I know, WoC is the only place where members offer euro coins for face value. European collectors will usually trade coin rolls as 1:1, but when it comes to selling coins, things change drastically ::) Many times they ask twice or thrice the face value and when you add shipping costs to it, you have a big amount to pay. I must say thanks to Figleaf (The Netherlands), izotz(Spain), Manjarin(Portugal) who have helped me a lot in expanding my euro collection :) chirsild (Germany) has also promised me to get the new German issues this year onwards, which I must appreciate.

Since I have been getting new Indian commemoratives for face value from my contact in RBI recently, I have tried to offer them for face to other Indian members, as dealers tend to ask notorious prices for them. I'll try my best to get the future issues from RBI, and offer them to members. My trader friends from other countries will anyway get them someday ;)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Coinsforever on February 03, 2011, 01:11:48 PM
Thanks Peter & Aditya ,

Great efforts  for turning possibility into reality.

Cheers ;D
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 05, 2011, 05:26:21 PM
The circle is still getting rounder. With reps in Cyprus and Slovakia, we now cover 10 out of 17 countries. France and Italy should be easy, but there may be a language barrier.

Peter
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on February 05, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Yup, the ring is getting bigger and better everyday! :)

Someone should send a PM to Irish forum member blackev. He hasn't been here for a long time  ::)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 05, 2011, 06:21:23 PM
I have had quite a few requests for the €2 Erasmus. Here is the situation.

The fancy versions, in coin cards or proof, are available everywhere at €15-40. The circulation version was sent to a few distribution centres. Some rolls were "liberated" and can be bought for €70 (nominal value €40). Most went on to banks and post offices, where they will be mixed with other €2 coins and stuffed in ATMs or disbursed to window clerks where such people still exist. In the city where I live (pop. 122 000) there is no post office left and banks don't handle cash.

The big flood of coins ordered by shops and dealers is expected next week only. Coins will arrive in bags, not rolls. Expect the current price of €4.50 to come down, probably after a couple of weeks. So, don't despair, they are on their way but not quite yet.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Tom0000 on February 07, 2011, 03:42:18 PM
I have had quite a few requests for the €2 Erasmus. Here is the situation.

The proof version on the ebay is more expensive than KMS proof with this 2 euro in on set which all can buy today in mint www.knm.nl for ~60E .
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 14, 2011, 10:01:42 PM
I'll be in Wicklow (Ireland) by the end of next week. Let me know if you want me to look out for Irish euro coins. Also, are there any coin dealers in the Dublin area that you know of or have experience with?

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: gaf on February 16, 2011, 10:17:38 AM
FIGLEAF say:
"....France and Italy should be easy, but there may be a language barrier......"
 >:(Why? Today there is google translator...I am italian.
Do I understand well; for example, in Italy I can take the currency from roll at face value.
I await news from you.
ciao
GAF



Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 16, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
SUPER, gaf. Yes, you understand perfectly well. The ring is all about coins available at face value. Always glad to be proven wrong. Today, the ring is a little bit more complete. Grazie mille davvero.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: gaf on February 16, 2011, 06:06:00 PM
hoy
in the limit of my ability to help everyone.
In my city the coins that are currently still refer to the 2008-2009 UNC.
Missing cc 50 and € 2.00 (only2002)
Few 2010.
Commemorative 2010 Cavour some are.
ciao
GAF
P.S."....France and Italy should be easy, but there may be a language barrier......" Why?
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on February 18, 2011, 01:32:50 PM
P.S."....France and Italy should be easy, but there may be a language barrier......" Why?
What he meant to say that often it happens that French and Italian collectors (and Greek to some extent) are not familiar with English language which is the auxiliary language ;) So it may happen that they do not understand your message and take it in a wrong way. (Has happened with me before when I was swapping with a very good Italian friend). You need not worry, your English is quite good and understandable :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: gaf on February 18, 2011, 01:45:37 PM
hello,
I already knew and just wanted to clarify.
Since this is a site in english, it is clear that you at least understand a bit, there's always our friend google translator.
Personally I would prefer not to name any country especially here.
However, all ok.
GAF ;)
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on February 21, 2011, 04:35:46 PM
I'll be in Wicklow (Ireland) by the end of next week. Let me know if you want me to look out for Irish euro coins. Also, are there any coin dealers in the Dublin area that you know of or have experience with?
Ireland? Most common Irish coins are those dated 2002 ;D..and as for new map coins, some of the denominations exist only in sets or have very low mintage..You have to be very lucky to get them in change.. ::)

Nice to see one name for Greek € coins in the list!  :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on February 22, 2011, 11:35:48 AM
Numismaticavisual was right. I got some Spain Alhambra 2011 CC from Bank of Spain. :)

I'm busy these days, but I will write you back by the end of the week to those who need it.  ;) Anyway, drop me an extra message if there is some hurry for it.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on February 22, 2011, 11:40:13 AM
Ah, great! Short version for busy people: Interested - yes. In a hurry - no.  ;D

Christian
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on February 23, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
Of course, I had traded with or bought from other ring members before, but today, I did my first euro transaction since we started the ring, with Christos in Greece. I hope many more will follow.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: xristaras33 on February 23, 2011, 04:38:04 PM
Thanks Peter
Ofcourse will follow more.


Chris
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Tom0000 on March 03, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
There is my point of view in this discussion as collector circulation euro coins in UNC states.

I am from country which is not using euro coins in circulation. This makes , I do not have  a chance to exchange money for coins for face value in national bank in UNC state.
The only source for have something for swap is buy it. Does have it a sense ?
There are some people which offer coins in face value for people from country without euro in circulation. This is beautiful idea.
The problem is in cost of transport. I can swap this way with people from one country 1 or 2 coins and maybe full set , but the cost of transport is from 3 to 6 euro.

How am I collecting my coins? I have one trusted dealer. I am buying 90-95% of my coins from him , every year. The rest are expensive bu or proof from sets in very low mintage and better is finding it on ebay , if my dealer has only the source for it on ebay too. The cheapest 2e cc is costing 2.8e to the 3.5e for more expensive (except strangers like Lux 2010) , but I am a trusted customer for him and have some % discount. I am ordering coins 3-4 times during the year and cost of transport is free for me.

Swapping the coins for face value is nice idea, but it is not possible to make massive swap for many coins from one swapper. I think, my way to collection is not cheap per coin, but is cheaper then swap if I will compare per coin and transport.
I can think what will be when my country will start minting own euro coins. Will the swap be better than buy like now ? I think it will be more interesting and maybe will be cheaper if I will use standard mail. It costs 60c and it is cheaper than 1e. My swapper can have mail more expensive.
But is standard mail safe ? The registered is costing 1.9e and makes the transport more expensive than buy the coin.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on March 03, 2011, 03:20:21 PM
I think Poland issues more than enough commemoratives to make swaps and I think there are enough people here who want to swap 2 zloty for euro. The only thing is that they can offer you mostly circulation coins. Try our ring members and see what happens. As Izotz has put it: swapping is so much fun you wonder why people are still buying...

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Tom0000 on March 03, 2011, 03:33:42 PM
You are right, but I am not collecting coins used in circulation in my country now. It will be replaced and it is "blind way" for me.
This means , it is hard to believe for me that someone else from outside of my country can be interested in collecting it :)

I have tried to find people for swap euro sets for zloty sets on swapper forum. It has no sense :( I do not surprise in it because I have the same point of view on it.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on March 03, 2011, 03:46:11 PM
This means , it is hard to believe for me that someone else from outside of my country can be interested in collecting it :)
In fact there are many collectors who are interested in Polish coins.  :)I have recently started collecting these 2 Zloty coins, they are really brilliantly struck.  8)

I don't mind buying them (as in your case, you are not interested in Indian coins) if someone is selling them for face or any price near face value. I understand that the older issues are difficult to get (I mean expensive) but if you can reserve one or two copies of 2 Zloty commemorative coins to be issued in 2011 (and 2012, 2013 and so on :D), then I'm definitely in!

Just to tell you how this concept really works, I have been trying to get newly issued Indian coins for face value directly from RBI and let other members get benefit of it. Indian rupee is very weak currency (both in terms of € or Zloty) but commemorative coins are really hard to get and dealers ask any notorious price for them. This idea has worked well not only with euro coins but also with Indian coins. So I'd say that you can at-least try how it works.  :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on March 03, 2011, 03:59:47 PM
I was thinking more of new issues. They are issued at face. It's just a question of finding out where to get them and when a new one appears. That can't be too difficult. Otherwise, send a PM to ford.ka. He gets newly issued Polish coins.

As an encouragement, I will post my want list of Polish coins on the "wanted" board.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on March 03, 2011, 04:00:26 PM
I have bought many 2 zlote coins for 3 times their face value. You buy 2 euro CC for 1,5 times their face value. So for me, as euro collector, would be quite interesting to have a swap partner in Poland. I mean that it should not be difficult for you to get some euro coins (and fun) from other European swapper.  ;)
Title: Need a Belgian swapper for newer UNCs
Post by: natko on March 11, 2011, 05:36:07 PM
With the last serie of euro coins, changed again in 2009-10 I desperately need some decent collector from whom I'll get all those varieties, as I don't actually have neither complete serie in UNC/BU quality and there are already 4 different types x 8 coins plus big/small stars!

Preferably if you miss many coins from Croatia and ex-Yugoslavia region, so we got room to swap.

Also, would like to fill a bit my pre-euro Belgian collection, but euros are, for the moment, my priority. PM please.

Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Need a Belgian swapper for newer UNCs
Post by: Figleaf on March 11, 2011, 07:35:56 PM
Please refer to this thread (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8451.0.html). Can I add your name for Slovenia?

Peter
Title: Re: Need a Belgian swapper for newer UNCs
Post by: natko on March 11, 2011, 10:14:53 PM
Thanks a lot, but I don't think it's appropriate, as I couldn't satisfy needs for Slovenian euro coins. For example, I don't have many available Slovenian commemorative 2 euros (1 to 2 for each except 0 doubles for Rome treaty) and would be quite hard to obtain them for less than market price.

It appears as a trade euros for euros circuit which I can't really cover.

For a normal swap with various currencies, including Croatian of course I'll do well.

Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on March 11, 2011, 10:28:23 PM
The ring is in the first place for new issues that can be obtained at face value, e.g. there will most probably be a euroland-wide commemorative 2 euro issue. I hope that by that time, the ring will be complete or almost complete, so everybody can have a complete set. It's just a question of can you secure new issues for other ring members and possible other members of the forum. It doesn't go beyond that.

You can always do other kinds of trades with all members. If Bimat can trade rupees for euros, you can trade whatever you have for euros. To stimulate thinking, I have posted my want list of coins of Yugoslavia, predecessor states and successor states here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,9038.0.html).

Peter
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on March 12, 2011, 05:50:23 AM
@ natko :

Of course we are not asking anyone to offer Slovenia ToR for face value. :) We understand that the previous issues (2008, 2010) are not obtainable for face value now (and most of the members have already got them), but what about those coins which are not issued yet? The 2011 CC (Franc Rozman) is expected by end of this month and the €3 commemorative (20 years of independence) will be issued in June. May be you can get a couple of rolls for face and help other forum members..

BTW would you be able to provide Croatian 25 Kuna commemoratives? :D I just have one (2010-a 'circulating' commemorative with a mintage of 20,000 only :o). And there are many others if I remember correctly..

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: natko on March 14, 2011, 11:35:42 AM
Yes, Bimat, I can get the 25 kuna commemoratives. Indeed, they're true circulation pieces (yet very scarcely seen in circulation). First 5 were issued in mintage of 300 000 each, so being 1,5 million total, one could see some maybe once in few months back then. Those two newer, no chance, of course, and didn't see any for years actually, probably so many people keep them (not only collectors).

I might also have Slovenian pieces, 3 euros are not circulation, just NCLT piece and sold on face value price.
 
We'll stay in touch, I'm VERY interested in Indian coinage and there are so many new types. I need to finish first the current 3-4 trades and fix some other real-life-stuff.
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on March 14, 2011, 02:38:24 PM
That's great, natko! I have all the Slovenian €3 pieces, so it's not a problem for me. But as for Croatian 25 kuna pieces..I'd definitely need your help!

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on March 15, 2011, 01:05:26 PM
I want to suggest something about the ring (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8451.0.html). I know that it is not so simple as I write it here, but it is just an example so that we can get the idea.

On one hand, let's say that chrisild wants the Spanish 2011 CC issue and I want the German one. We can set a 1:1 swap. But if we do not put more coins into the swap, it would be more expensive for me than buying it in the coin fair. If we are 13 members in the ring, it would be funny, but very tiring and expensive that everybody sends 12 packages to the other partners

On the other hand, let's say that we all want 2 pieces (or 4 or whatever) for each coin. We could all send a roll (or two) to the same member. He would receive the 12 rolls, and send 13 pairs or coins back to all the members. I suppose he should receive a compensation for his time and the envelopes. For example, he could keep the remaining 25th coin. Everybody should pay him the shipping expenses for the package he sends back (by a bank transfer or coins). These expenses is something that he wouldn't need to pay for.

It would be desirable that this member has some spare time for this, and the shipping expenses in his country are not too high.

I have some other ideas for the 2.0 version of the ring  ;D but this would be enough by now.

I know this is an ambitious idea, but I wanted to share it with you.

Edit : all 2011 Spanish coins have been issued, but 2€ (normal) one.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on March 15, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
The idea is just fine, but I think it works best for common issues (issued in all member countries) and collections by year. Any volunteers?


Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on March 15, 2011, 05:48:49 PM
You can build such a scenario as complicated as you want. The more complicated, the harder to make it work. We could begin with a simple one, and extend it later to a "2.0" version. Or check how can we solve certain difficulties, like the "delivery member" I mentioned.

If you only think about 2012 common issue it should be possible. If you only think about the countries that actually issue the CC for that year (and members from these countries), it would do too. If you admit that some members may not have any CC issued in his/her country but they will still receive the coins, it is ok for me.

Regarding mintmarks, it is quite likely that (for example) chrisild gets only one. You miss four but on the other hand, at least you are getting one mint plus other countries. chrisild would not be obliged to provide the five.

Sometimes coins come in bags. That is not a problem. I suggested rolls because it is always easier for me to ship one roll than 24 coins. The problem comes when coins are not issued at face (Luxembourg or Malta EMU). As Bimat said, I can't ask anybody to send Slovenia ToR at face. You can retire from the swap, find a fair ratio, find a fair compensation or whatever.

But we can always focus on the simple scenario at first.

Regarding people not in Euroland, again, we can :
- leave it for "Ring 2.0"
- include them at other ratio. For example (just guessing) Poland 2 zloty coin (x3) for 2 euro coin (x1)
- again, admit that there will be some people that will receive coins but they will only send some cash.

As I said, it is just an idea. I like it, but I am aware of the difficulties it would take.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on March 15, 2011, 06:15:23 PM
By the way, collections by year may be even more difficult. I suppose you refer to circulation sets. For example, Spain may issue 8 values + CC. Portugal, issued 7? in 2009 and 6? in 2008. Slovenia... I can't remember how many, but they were very few.

I mean that we could give it a try with a simple version before we need a full accounting.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on March 15, 2011, 10:15:55 PM
OK, I'll participate in 2012. Just give me clear instructions and I'll do my best.

Do keep in mind that the only way for me to get a decent quantity is to order a pack. Rolls are not the answer, because they are mixed and expensive. For the Erasmus coin, the minimum order was 1000 pieces. That's an investment of €2000...

Peter
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on March 16, 2011, 06:20:56 AM
Rolls are not the answer, because they are mixed and expensive. For the Erasmus coin, the minimum order was 1000 pieces. That's an investment of €2000...
Most of the countries do not issue mixed rolls. The only exceptions are : NL (2011), FI (2004).

And the bag of 1000 Erasmus coins..it was made available only to registered dealers, not to everyone. ::) KNM has strange policies..

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: gaf on April 29, 2011, 09:39:12 AM
I also have some €2 commemorative coin Italy 2011 from roll.
If you are interested please contact me.
gaf
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on April 30, 2011, 12:47:59 PM
Thanks very much gaf. We made a deal. I hope others will grab the opportunity also. You can't lose...

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on May 14, 2011, 12:48:06 PM
Just took the last Italian coins off my want list. Thanks gaf!

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: gaf on May 19, 2011, 08:54:33 AM
Thanks to you Peter,
 you are truly generous.
gaf
Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on July 30, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
A Spanish friend of mine posted this idea on another forum, but I think it's worth mentioning here. It applies only to the common 2012 issue (10 years of euro cash, referred to as 10Y hereon :D).

A Dutch collector will send 17 pieces (17 countries will be issuing the commemorative, not considering the German mint mark varieties) of 10Y to the Spanish collector. Belgian, Italian, French etc will follow the same procedure: they will send 17 pieces of their home country to Spanish collector. When the Spanish collector has received letters from all the countries (all the countries may not issue them at same time), he will send 17 different 10Y commemorative coins from 17 countries to all those who sent him 17 coins of their own country.

Definitely sounds good, but someone will have to take initiative to pack all the coins and send them. It's just another version of izotz's idea. :)

Another factor that may affect the trade is shipping costs. Some countries (Slovenia, Greece for example) have reasonable postage costs, some do not (Netherlands, France for example). So it's better if someone from Slovenia or Greece takes the initiative and sends letter to all..

Another problem WoC may face is that we don't have traders from all € using countries..but solution(s) are always possible..

What do other members think? 8)

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on July 30, 2011, 12:30:33 PM
Of course I will want all 17 issues :) but I see the same problems that you mentioned: First, our members do not "cover" all euro area member states. Second, even though the official date of issue is 1 (or 2?) January, the coins will become available on different dates in different countries.

I think that, when the time is "ripe", we should simply offer the pieces that we can get locally (preferably at face), and ask for the ones that we want. So I may post an offer regarding the German piece, Peter may offer the Dutch piece, and so on. Then the others can decide what they want - maybe the "Bavaria" €2 commem from the German States series too, maybe two coins from NL, etc.

One German forum that I am a member of has a "node" system mostly for non-euro coins: Some member says, I can get this coin, maybe x pieces max, at that price. Then people can say how many they want (typically one or two), and unless specified otherwise, the coins from that "campaign" will all be shipped to the member who works as the node. After a couple of such "campaigns", this person then distributes the coins. Quite a bit of work, but less expensive in terms of shipping than having to pay postage for each and every piece. Would be too complicated and costly however to set up something like that in an international forum, I think.

Christian
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: gerard974 on September 20, 2011, 12:32:28 PM
Hi all,
I really appreciate the initiative taken by Christian..But what about collectors (like me) outside Europe or Eurozone? Here in India,commemorative Euro coins are rarely found,and they are sold for very high price,for example,the Spanish 2 Euro Don Quizote commemorative is sold for about 300 Indian Rupees,which is double of face value.That is the reason why I haven't got a single Rome treaty commemorative coin for my collection  :'( Even the 1 Euro coins are sold for 95INR (Face value: 65-70 INR) for used condition and 110-120 INR for UNC >:( I really hate this! Any solution for this problem?

Aditya

Hello Adithya how do you do
I have finded one 2 euros coin from Cyprus,are you intersted ?If yes i keep for you
best regards  Gerard
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: mr_osobuko on October 23, 2011, 12:40:02 AM
Hi all,

I'm from Spain and I'm interested in euro coins from other countries. How is the collector rings working? How do interchanges work? I'm going to the BdE office on Monday so I hope to have the opportunity to get 2€ coins...
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Figleaf on October 24, 2011, 02:30:08 AM
Hello Mr_O. The rings works exceptionally simple. If you want a newly issued coin, contact a member of the ring and work out a deal. That's all.

Trades are more or less the same, except that you don't have a fixed counterparty. I suggest that you publish (part of) your want list on the "Wanted" board in the thread "Euro coins wanted". Think of what you want to send in return in advance. If the answer is "cash only", it is not a trade but a sale. Spanish coins only will limit your possibilities to make a deal.

Peter
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: mr_osobuko on November 09, 2011, 12:06:39 PM
Hi Figleaf,

Thank you for your response. What I'm trying to do is to create a small group of 'friends' where I live, so we will be able to order coins to some mints directly, sharing costs. I hope that, doing this, I'll be able to get coins which I can use to interchange later with other users, especially in those countries where it isn't possible to obtain coins from the mint through Internet.

I'll take a look to the thread you've mentioned, in order to understand better what I can offer and ask from others.

Title: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: Bimat on November 12, 2011, 05:16:02 PM
Hi mr_osobuko,

If you are really interested in this trading circle , you may start with the Austrian €5 collector coins in copper (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,8623.0.html), planned to be issued in 2012. :) Aah, we also have a common €2 commemorative next year. That would be fun!

Aditya
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on January 09, 2012, 01:25:30 PM
Aah, we also have a common €2 commemorative next year. That would be fun!
That is fun. As you know, many €2 commemoratives have already been issued. One of them is Spain.
I will take into account (at least) forum members I usually swap with, and members of the ring. Anyway, feel free ask to drop me a message to ask for a certain amount of pieces.

I expect I will have some spares from other countries I may swap in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: izotz on February 10, 2012, 10:14:52 AM
I think Spain 2012 - Burgos Cathedral was issued officially yesterday, although they could be seen somewhere a few days in advance  ???

Anyway, I already got it for you at face value. I may write some of you next week. We can combine shipping with ten years euro cash issues, not only the Spanish ones, as I already got a few from different countries. :)
Title: Re: Helping other forum members with new coins issued at face value
Post by: chrisild on February 10, 2012, 11:03:26 AM
Fortunately these are not ultra-expensive rarities, so if some people somehow get theirs a few days earlier - who cares. ;D  Yes, it would be nice to get both the Euro Cash and Burgos Cathedral commems. Problem is, I currently have some of my "swap objects" elsewhere, so that part would have to wait until next week ...

Christian