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Collecting coins => The law, breaking it, international shipping => Topic started by: Alan Glasser on May 08, 2013, 08:56:44 PM

Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 08, 2013, 08:56:44 PM
Hello everybody.

Since finding WOC a couple of years back, I have met some awfully nice people, received much help, enjoyed many back and forth discussions and landed several needed coins for my collection. Thanks to all.

A bit of a "bug-a-boo" though has been shipping trade coins to WOC friends from my home in the U.S. to other countries. I have had success sending coins to France, England, New Zealand, Argentina (though the first shipment was lost) and unfortunate results sending things to India and Pakistan. They never arrived there. Anyway, today I received a shipment back in the mail on its way to a collector friend in France to whom I had successfully sent coins before. The contents of this latest parcel were not of value, just 4 minor Mexican coins but the returned envelope said that a customs declaration was necessary as well as about $7 in postage. Would anyone know of any new regulations when shipping a few coins in regular mail from the U.S.? This is rather frustrating as I enjoy trading and have met some really great fellow collectors in the process. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Many thanks.   Alan
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: capnbirdseye on May 08, 2013, 09:40:53 PM
I did notice a few days ago that US sellers on Ebay .com said they were forced to hike up postal charges due to some new regulations,  looking at a few listings with postage to UK at around  $17 for a couple of coins is a bit of a shocker  :o not sure if this was Ebays new rules or US post rules
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: akona20 on May 08, 2013, 11:16:36 PM
I am expecting one coin from the USA at present but note the postage was the usual very cheap (comparartively so) for postge fro the US.

I am also bidding on another coin from the same seller for destructive testing so it will be interesting to see what happens.

All packages here whether of one coin or more that are not simply letters require a Customs Declaration to be completed. I am not sure why the simple declaration that the goods are not unsafe for postage does not suffice and it should be noted that generally all parcels are inspected on arrival here. The only country I have had problems with receiving goods has been America strangely enough and in the recent year the only place I have lost a package is to Bangladesh.

Customs declaration forms make it rather easy for goods to be stolen while in transit.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 09, 2013, 02:17:35 AM
Hmmmm...very interesting replies. Well, I don't quite know what to do. I promised I would send the coins to my friend in France, but I fear having them returned again. Unfortunately, we have a rather "unusual" mailman and he seems to take great pleasure in writing me little notes on my goofed up letters. (I don't do it often!!) I weighed the letter going to France and attached $2.45 cents postage on it...about 30 cents more than required for overseas e-mail to France for that weight. The $2 stamp I used was old but unused but it wouldn't stick to the envelope so I glued it on. I got a note saying he (mailman) didn't like glued stamps... along with a customs declaration form.

I never knew
you couldn't use glue
if the stamp wasn't new
and a lick wouldn't do!  :o

I do know that the U.S. Postal Service (while excellent!!!) is in deep financial trouble and tried to cancel Saturday delivery recently. Congress said NO WAY...so maybe no glued stamps is a small new way to increase revenue?  Maybe overseas letters have gone up too?  Alan   ???
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Prosit on May 09, 2013, 04:50:38 AM
I have mailed to Canada, Great Britain, Scotland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria, Germany, Latvia, Russia, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand and Uruguay. I did mail a single token to India but the package looked like a letter and it did arrive.

Packages I sent that got lost have been one to Great Britain.
Packages that got lost coming to me from Canada, Germany and the Netherlands.
I did get one from Italy that took two months and one that went to Brazil from Florida but it came to Texas eventually. Never understood that route.

I am sure I have lost other packages but those come to mind.
Every package I sent to Portgual was intercepted by Customs and I had to mail detailed lists and values and my friend there wound up paying duty. That was the end of those trades after 4 times.

Most of the coins I trade aren't worth much...postage going up will sure put a crimp in that activity.
Dale


Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Abhay on May 09, 2013, 08:19:53 AM
Hello everybody.

Since finding WOC a couple of years back, I have met some awfully nice people, received much help, enjoyed many back and forth discussions and landed several needed coins for my collection. Thanks to all.

A bit of a "bug-a-boo" though has been shipping trade coins to WOC friends from my home in the U.S. to other countries. I have had success sending coins to France, England, New Zealand, Argentina (though the first shipment was lost) and unfortunate results sending things to India and Pakistan. They never arrived there. Anyway, today I received a shipment back in the mail on its way to a collector friend in France to whom I had successfully sent coins before. The contents of this latest parcel were not of value, just 4 minor Mexican coins but the returned envelope said that a customs declaration was necessary as well as about $7 in postage. Would anyone know of any new regulations when shipping a few coins in regular mail from the U.S.? This is rather frustrating as I enjoy trading and have met some really great fellow collectors in the process. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Many thanks.   Alan

I fully agree with you, regarding shipping coins to India. The problem lies with the Indian Postal Department, where, it seems, that only requirement to qualify for a post, is that you should be a thieve.

No amount of complaints have helped. I have lost many coins, stamps and currency notes to the thieves of India Post. Most of them were rather common and not very significant. But I lost this medal, which was very unique and invaluable, as I have not seen this in the past, nor hope to see it in future. It was send from UK by Registered Post with Signature due, but it never arrived.

Abhay
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Figleaf on May 09, 2013, 12:37:46 PM
One does not need to be a genius to work in a postal sorting centre.

When my daughter was a student, she got a job in a postal sorting centre in Amsterdam. After a week, she was made shift supervisor (!), since she was the only one who could understand and read enough Dutch to fix minor glitches in the machines. Among other things, she found that the (completely disinterested and unmotivated) people working there would throw any piece of mail that caused a machine to stop in the waste bin. She bravely served for the time contracted and vowed she never wanted to go there again. Somehow, I don't think things have improved since.  :-\

Peter
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: FosseWay on May 09, 2013, 12:50:42 PM
Dale: You have successfully mailed coins to Sweden, too!  ;)

Touch wood, but I have never failed to receive a package of coins that I was expecting, either from a fellow collector or from eBay/Tradera/dealers. The most inexplicable delay was recently with a package that took longer to get from Germany to Sweden than it would have if I'd personally walked there and got it, but nevertheless it got here.

I'm always a bit nervous about sending coins outside the EU, not because of the risk of theft but because different jurisdictions have all sorts of different customs regulations regarding historic/potentially valuable/silver items. I don't possess any coins that are of the kind of historic significance or monetary value that would generally interest a customs department, and still less do I have any spares of such that I would be sending as swaps. But the potential problem is that any given customs official who happens to be tasked with assessing my parcel may not have much/any numismatic knowledge, and for such people on a tight schedule it may just be a case of "coins = valuable", and all the delay and bureaucracy that stems from that. That said, I've sent and received coins from outside the EU several times, mainly to/from the US, without problems.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Prosit on May 09, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
How did I forget that? As I recall it was problem free. I don't recall it costing more but it seems it is expensive to send from within Sweden.

I have swapped coins for a long time and no doubt I have forgotten many others as well.
I do have stuff go missing both ways but not often. I now recall a few lost to me coming from within the US.

I also remember ordering stamps from the US Postal Service through their catalog and not getting them. They didn't know what happened  :o  ::) and didn't make good on it. That was the last time I did that.

The two that I remeber the best were sent or to be recieved around Christmas. Weather there is a connection of not I try to avoid that time period. There are a LOT of temps utilized then.

Dale



Dale: You have successfully mailed coins to Sweden, too!  ;)
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: FosseWay on May 09, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
How did I forget that? As I recall it was problem free. I don't recall it costing more but it seems it is expensive to send from within Sweden.

Yes, it was problem free in both directions as far as I was concerned. I would imagine it costs the same to send from the US to any EU country, so it makes no difference to the sender or USPS. But there are huge differences in postage costs, both internal, within the EU and world, between different EU countries. The UK used to be one of the cheapest but has recently hiked its prices phenomenally. Sweden is expensive, which can perhaps be explained by the need to pay for a universal internal postal service covering an enormous country (by European standards) with a very thin population. It costs me 6 kronor to send a letter to someone in a hunting hut in the back of beyond in Lappland, 2000 km away and nowhere near any railways or major roads, just as it costs me 6 kronor to send a letter to the other side of my home city. The cost of the former has to be subsidised in some way, and part of that is through increasing general postage costs.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: paisepagal on May 09, 2013, 04:19:46 PM
Speaking from the other side of the ....ahem... Side of the post office's wrath , my experience has actually been nearly universally excellent after a few hundred packages and over 13 yrs now.

-I've been outright cheated once by a person from the US.
-once a package returned all the way from Italy because the Italian authorities could not decide on a commercial value. That's when I started including a letter
-two packages from Germany were stolen, I got empty envelopes... One was at the time of the Iceland volcanic situation . The package was stuck in Luxembourg for 3 weeks and I feel that's where the pilfering took place. The 2nd one was a heavy package which I cannot say was necessarily stolen either in Germany or India.
-every package I've sent so far has reached it's destination with contents in place ! I send ny registered airmail only... Food for thought  ;D
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Prosit on May 09, 2013, 04:47:09 PM
For a small package that can't be classified as a letter the minimun I have found for me to send out of the States is just under $10. The last registered package I sent cost me an additional $19 give or take (I forget the exact amount).  So $30 to send registered.

If send small  amouts of coins (as I often do) it is far better for me to take the chance on an outright loss than it is to register it.  Sending $10 worth of coins for $10 postage while not plesant is something I can justify mentally. Sending that same $10 worth of coins for $30 is not.

A big part of a trade for me is the experience and getting to meet and talk with people from places I will not likely vist. So a strict look at purely economics of a small trade; it is obviously not worth it. I get more out of it than the economics might suggest.

Dale





.......-every package I've sent so far has reached it's destination with contents in place ! I send ny registered airmail only... Food for thought  ;D
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: paisepagal on May 09, 2013, 04:54:07 PM
For a small package that can't be classified as a letter the minimun I have found for me to send out of the States is just under $10. The last registered package I sent cost me an additional $19 give or take (I forget the exact amount).  So $30 to send registered.

If send small  amouts of coins (as I often do) it is far better for me to take the chance on an outright loss than it is to register it.  Sending $10 worth of coins for $10 postage while not plesant is something I can justify mentally. Sending that same $10 worth of coins for $30 is not.

A big part of a trade for me is the experience and getting to meet and talk with people from places I will not likely vist. So a strict look at purely economics of a small trade; it is obviously not worth it. I get more out of it than the economics might suggest.

Dale

Well yes that's true... Given that the highest denomination here is Rs10, it's a near guarantee that the postage will always exceed the face value of coins by the widest of margins... 3x as much usually. When looking at it economically, I compare to how expensive it is to buy the same thing here; and surprise surprise... It turns out it is indeed cheaper to exchange .... I don't even want to get started on all the wonderful experiences and contacts that come off swapping.... That package that fosseway talks about from Germany has an Indian connection I'm guessing  ;D
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Prosit on May 09, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
I agree.

To me it is a balancing act. I want to trade as I enjoy the experience and of course the coins. But I have to balance how much content value I am willing to risk with the postage cost being as low as I can reasonable make it and still make it worth doing.

With higher value packages of course the postal costs get to be smaller percents and less of a consideration.
With un-known traders I am very reluctant to send more than a minimum amount the first couple trades.

Most expensive package I sever sent had $500 woth of coin value but I had traded with that trader for years.
Least expensive packages I have sent might have a small pile of US Quarters and pocket type change in it.

I am not likely to quit trading due to cost of postage but the packages might have to change in content to keep it interesting and worth while for me.

Dale

Well yes that's true... Given that the highest denomination here is Rs10, it's a near guarantee that the postage will always exceed the face value of coins by the widest of margins... 3x as much usually. When looking at it economically, I compare to how expensive it is to buy the same thing here; and surprise surprise... It turns out it is indeed cheaper to exchange .... I don't even want to get started on all the wonderful experiences and contacts that come off swapping.... That package that fosseway talks about from Germany has an Indian connection I'm guessing  ;D
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Alan Glasser on May 09, 2013, 05:56:54 PM
Hello Guys,

I just resent the package that started this thread (flat envelope really) to France. This time, nothing changed except I used the address of the Public Library in my town (my wife is the director) as the return address. Our mailman, (age 55 and older community) is not known for being pleasant!!!! but I expect he has a good number of outgoing mail items from our community central mailboxes that may have errors in postage (or heaven forbid...GLUED STAMPS!!!  HORRORS!!!) from some of the elderly residents. I mailed the letter from the P.O. so our local mailman won't have to deal with it.  We'll see if the letter is again returned which would possibly indicate some sort of rule or rate change. I DID weigh the letter and added additional postage than the required amount for a 1.3 ounce letter to France from the U.S.. The P.O. at their online site even has an option for pricing envelopes with stiff contents so I selected that option to account to determine pricing for shipping and for the wrapping I sent the coins in.  Fingers crossed.

Alan
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on March 25, 2017, 04:59:35 PM
I have, against my better judgment, purchased a few coins from eBay.com recently (shipping from the US, UK, and Canada, respectively). May the coin fairy watch over them.  :D
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on March 25, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
US/UK or even Canada shouldn't be a problem. Letters from US/Canada will take some time to arrive, though, due to strict custom laws in the respective countries. UK's postal service is quite fast...

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on April 03, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
Your observation was spot on! The UK packet arrived today, much earlier than I had expected.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on April 08, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
The coin shipped from UK was stated as 3.3 g by the seller, but weighs only 3.0 g on my scale. Electronic scales tend to be fairly accurate, so I am wondering if this small difference in weight could be due to a difference in local gravity. Has anyone had a similar experience?
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on April 08, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
Your observation was spot on! The UK packet arrived today, much earlier than I had expected.

Hehe...I have received quite a few parcels from UK and except one or two, all arrived within a week. One of those parcel weighed over half kg and it arrived only in 3 days. That's faster that India Post's speed post delivery to Delhi from Mumbai. ;D :o

A month or so for letters coming from US is quite normal. I wouldn't be surprised even if they open the letter to see what it has (this is more common when you are sending letter to US) but nothing will be stolen (own experience!). Have never received a letter from Canada, but have heard similar stories. Long whipping times and expensive postal service is a main reason why I almost never buy from American/Canadian dealers.

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on April 08, 2017, 04:43:02 PM
Two of my US packets arrived as well (one as I was typing this post).  :)
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: coincoin.com on May 06, 2017, 11:45:15 PM
Between frequent rate increases and rule changes for different classes of mail, I find it a challenge to send lower value shipments from my US base to customers abroad, at reasonable cost.  One tip is to avoid sending certain types of mail through a local carrier or post office window clerk.  Using stamps and dropping it in a collection box sends it to a regional processing center where "rules" that cost you money seem to be overlooked.  To be avoided are a customs declaration, an assignment as "first class package mail" or "rigid or uneven thickness" criteria which drastically increase cost.  It works for me with thin coins, but with crown-sized, you may be taking a chance.    The trick is to tape the (enveloped) coins in thin cardboard to look like a greeting card (and get letter vs. package rate) or in plastic pages inside a magazine to go at the "flats" rate rather than that package rate.  You do not get tracking, so trust your recipient.  I would not send older cast "cash", zinc coins, or other fragile things this way, because they go through that machinery mentioned earlier, and that is their stated reason for charging so much more on the classes that supposedly get hand-processed.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on May 20, 2017, 06:05:52 AM
The experience so far:

UK and Cyprus: By far, the best. All packets have arrived within 10 days of shipping. No custom duty.
Croatia: All packets have arrived within 15 days of shipping. No custom duty.
France: All packets have arrived within 15-20 days of shipping. No custom duty.
Russia: All packets have arrived within 20-30 days of shipping. Shipping was free, so I am not complaining. Nice stamps too. No custom duty.

Canada: Two packets. One arrived in 20 days, while the second took nearly two months. No custom duty.
US: The worse of the lot. Apart from one Californian seller whose packets consistently arrive within 10-15 days, they take 1+ month. Sometimes, packets sent by the same seller at a later date arrive earlier than the ones posted 2 weeks earlier. I have given up on one packet which hasn't shown up in 2+ months.  :(
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: capnbirdseye on May 20, 2017, 10:18:09 AM
My experience has been good apart from one lot from the USA,  I purchased a big pile of unidentified Indian coppers rather cheaply, unfortunately the seller had to split it into two separate lots to post because of the weight.  After 3 weeks I got a card through the door to collect items from my local RM sorting office because there was a fee to pay.

I was dumbfounded when one packet had £26.58 to pay and the other £11.40.   non of this was duty!  it was VAT and  Royal mail handling charges of £8 per packet
Needless to say my enjoyment of getting a bargain lot of coins was short lived  :'(
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on May 20, 2017, 01:58:00 PM
Here in Australia everything from overseas goes through customs where I believe the packets are checked by dogs.  :rules:

This one was opened and resealed but unfortunately they sealed the wrong end!  ::)  however by good luck the contents were still intact.   :o
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on May 20, 2017, 04:03:22 PM
My experience has been good apart from one lot from the USA,  I purchased a big pile of unidentified Indian coppers rather cheaply, unfortunately the seller had to split it into two separate lots to post because of the weight.  After 3 weeks I got a card through the door to collect items from my local RM sorting office because there was a fee to pay.

I was dumbfounded when one packet had £26.58 to pay and the other £11.40.   non of this was duty!  it was VAT and  Royal mail handling charges of £8 per packet
Needless to say my enjoyment of getting a bargain lot of coins was short lived  :'(

Whenever Indian custom's department charges custom duty on any of the letters, India Post charges ₹30 in addition to custom duty as handling charges. This is fixed amount, irrespective of custom duty charged.

Aditya
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on May 20, 2017, 04:09:12 PM
Here in Australia everything from overseas goes through customs where I believe the packets are checked by dogs.  :rules:

Dogs? You must be kidding us?!? :o Why would you need sniffer dogs when you have all the advanced machinery available with you, doing the same job, perhaps in lesser time?

This one was opened and resealed but unfortunately they sealed the wrong end!  ::)  however by good luck the contents were still intact.   :o

Whenever Indian custom's department opens any package for inspection, they seal it so tightly after inspection that it becomes headache to open it when you receive it. Not to forget some uncomfortable questions from the postman at times like 'What's inside it?'! ::)

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on May 21, 2017, 12:52:17 AM
Australian border force is on TV every Saturday night and at times you see the dog running along the conveyor belt sniffing all the packets there  ::)
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on May 21, 2017, 05:01:03 AM
Down here, if they open it they also do a FREE quality check.
A few months back, I had ordered Dharwad pedhas (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharwad_pedha). The (re-)sealed packet arrived with more than half the pedhas eaten.  ;D
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Saikat on May 21, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
They also substitute. One of my coin package got replaced by a set of pickle sachets  >:D
Not funny as I was looking for that coin for quite some time.
Saikat
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on June 03, 2017, 04:53:21 AM
I have given up on one packet which hasn't shown up in 2+ months.  :(
Unexpectedly, it arrived!  :)
Since it doesn't appear to have been opened, I wonder why the delay. Two of the packets from the same US seller sent more than a month later had arrived much earlier.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on June 03, 2017, 05:24:53 AM
Happens here too with US packets, four months I waited one time before it arrived.

I think the bottom of the heap takes a while if they tip the new stuff on top. I got one packet in a week while an earlier packet from the same seller took three weeks so the later one came first.
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on June 03, 2017, 08:06:16 AM
Unexpectedly, it arrived!  :)
Since it doesn't appear to have been opened, I wonder why the delay. Two of the packets from the same US seller sent more than a month later had arrived much earlier.

The logistical system of post is very complex one. Few years back, a friend posted a letter for me from Spain. I was continuously tracking the letter from the day it was posted. After 3-4 days of booking, it showed the status as "Insert the item into bag", meaning that the letter is about to leave the source country. After this step, it usually takes a week or less (for most of the countries) for the letter to arrive in destination country. However in my case, the status remained same for almost 40 days and the letter arrived in Mumbai after 40 days!!! During this period, I was very worried as it was quite unusual and neither me nor my friend could do anything as the letter was middle of nowhere. ;) I indeed received the letter in good condition after almost 45 days, but I had sleepless nights because of it. I still don't know why did it take 40 days to travel from Madrid Airport to Mumbai...

One of my letter posted from Germany was first sent to Indonesia and then to India (New Delhi). The guy at German sorting center perhaps mistook "Indien" as "Indonesia". ;D Another letter sent from Germany was mistakenly first forwarded to Italy and then to India. So many interesting experiences of international shipping...Isn't this hobby really cool? :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on June 24, 2017, 12:02:06 PM
Dogs? You must be kidding us?!? :o Why would you need sniffer dogs when you have all the advanced machinery available with you, doing the same job, perhaps in lesser time?

Aditya

While watching TV the other night I saw that the Chicago mail centre are also using sniffer dogs; this dog found three packets together all containing drugs.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on July 01, 2017, 03:15:05 PM
One of the wierdest packets I have ever received. The coins are encased in a "brick" of plaster of paris. I feel like a badass smuggler opening it.

PS: Can I use "width" or some other tag to reduce image dimensions or must I do it before posting?

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21559.0;attach=72425)
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on July 09, 2017, 05:21:22 AM
The Chicago sorting center seems to have become a Bermuda Triangle for coins. I am missing all packets that got routed through there. Only one coin managed to arrive so far, after more than 2 months. The missing packets included, among others, a lifetime-issue Drachm of Alexander the Great and a nice dennarius of Trajan depicting the Trajan's column.  :(
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on August 01, 2017, 04:16:28 PM
US post ate more of my packets, including one with an Alexander Tetradrachm.   :'(
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on August 01, 2017, 05:04:55 PM
US post ate more of my packets, including one with an Alexander Tetradrachm.   :'(

Sad to know that! I haven't received a single letter from US since 2011 or so, but my experience with USPS until then had been really great. Were all your lost letters sent registered? If yes, then at what stage did those letters go missing? Tracking them online can sometimes give you a clue...

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on August 01, 2017, 05:32:57 PM
Sad to know that! I haven't received a single letter from US since 2011 or so, but my experience with USPS until then had been really great. Were all your lost letters sent registered? If yes, then at what stage did those letters go missing? Tracking them online can sometimes give you a clue...

Aditya
Yes, they were registered. I do not know how things were in 2011, but USPS tracking never works for me beyond the last sorting facility the letter reaches in the US. I was informed by one of the sellers that the problem was at the Chicago sorting center. Packets shipped from some states (e.g., New York) have consistently arrived within two weeks.

Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on August 01, 2017, 05:35:41 PM
Yes, they were registered. I do not know how things were in 2011, but USPS tracking never works for me beyond the last sorting facility the letter reaches in the US. I was informed by one of the sellers that the problem was at the Chicago sorting center. Packets shipped from some states (e.g., New York) have consistently arrived within two weeks.

After the letter has left the US, you should be able to track it on India Post Website (http://ipsweb.ptcmysore.gov.in/ipswebtracking/IPSWeb_submit.htm). This tracking website works perfectly most of the times. In fact, it is better than tracking facility provided by many other postal services in the world!

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on August 02, 2017, 12:48:27 AM
Delayed in customs.

It irritates me how the names are being Americanised ...why not keep it as customs after all these years  ::)
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on August 02, 2017, 04:17:09 AM
After the letter has left the US, you should be able to track it on India Post Website (http://ipsweb.ptcmysore.gov.in/ipswebtracking/IPSWeb_submit.htm). This tracking website works perfectly most of the times. In fact, it is better than tracking facility provided by many other postal services in the world!

Aditya
Perhaps things were different pre-2012, but that no longer works for US. In fact, many US sellers do not ship to India for this reason as it is no longer possible to confirm delivery. Some unscrupulous buyers were wrongly claiming (and getting) refunds on eBay saying they never got the coins.
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on August 02, 2017, 05:27:35 PM
Perhaps things were different pre-2012, but that no longer works for US. In fact, many US sellers do not ship to India for this reason as it is no longer possible to confirm delivery. Some unscrupulous buyers were wrongly claiming (and getting) refunds on eBay saying they never got the coins.

That's really very sad. While delays due to strict customs' laws of US are understandable, I always considered USPS to be more reliable than many other 'advanced' couriers.

Not surprised by false tricks used by some Indian collectors. Rather a shame on our collecting community to have such people, but there is nothing we can do about it. :'(

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on August 02, 2017, 05:42:27 PM
That's really very sad. While delays due to strict customs' laws of US are understandable, I always considered USPS to be more reliable than many other 'advanced' couriers.

Not surprised by false tricks used by some Indian collectors. Rather a shame on our collecting community to have such people, but there is nothing we can do about it. :'(

Aditya
I have had 0 lost packets and much better delivery times from every country except the US (with the exception of some states). I personally find eBay policy with regard to refunds unfair and do not apply for refund unless I have reasons to believe that the seller never shipped the coins. Why should sellers lose the merchandise and pay for the item when they have no control over mail? The sellers I have interacted with have almost all been nice and most have issued a refund without even asking for it. It would be a shame to have them lose faith in an entire country because of a few bad eggs.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Overlord on November 20, 2017, 01:38:38 PM
A coin shipped from Hungary on 20 June has arrived today. I had forgotten about it and had to search my mailbox to confirm I had indeed purchased it.  :D
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: goossen on June 04, 2020, 03:23:05 PM
I have sent and received hundreds of coins to and from 40 different countries without any major issue. Some shipments took close to 2 months, for example Africa to South America.
The key is how to prepare the package, and I always include a note for customs stating that the coins have no commercial value and are intended for collecting purposes only.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on June 05, 2020, 12:47:01 AM
I have lost a few items over the years but mainly the mail is reliable although it is terribly slow at present due to Covid 19 and is taking around two months to get downunder.

I got this a couple of days ago and I blame the sniffer dog!
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on June 05, 2020, 03:41:31 AM
I noticed this today when leaving feedback for other items, one I had bought on 19 Apr, 2020 and the expected delivery date is Sun 9th Aug, so another couple of months yet before I see it and there is no delivery on weekends anyway.
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: gerard974 on June 05, 2020, 06:23:05 AM
Hello Malcolm
look for your letter

Détail de toutes les étapes
DATES        ÉTAPES
mercredi 27 mai
Votre envoi vient de quitter la France.
mardi 26 mai
Votre envoi est en cours de traitement à Roissy.
vendredi 15 mai
Votre courrier a été remis à La Poste par l'expéditeur.

Best regards Gerard
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: malj1 on June 05, 2020, 01:21:05 PM
A little bit longer I think, another two or three weeks!  :(

Reunion island is the other end of the earth?
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: gerard974 on June 05, 2020, 01:57:42 PM
Hello
No a little beat after ;D ;D
Best regards Gerard
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Figleaf on June 05, 2020, 02:47:44 PM
If it is any comfort, my daughter has in her stamp collection an enveloppe mailed in early 1940 that was received back as undeliverable 6 years later. Everything is relative.

Peter
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on June 15, 2020, 03:22:17 PM
I received two letters today. Both the letters were dispatched from Germany in the first week of March before lockdown was announced in India (I believe Germany was already under lockdown then). The letters arrived in India almost two months later, were again stuck in New Delhi for a month. One of the letter finally reached the local post office last week but was then again stuck there as hardly a few postmen are reporting to work (local trains are still not running in Mumbai). I went to post office today with the tracking codes and collected both the letters - was pleased to see all the coins safe and sound! There was a very nice Greek €10 silver proof collector coin (Battle of Salamis) and also the complete set of German €5 polymer ring coins of 2019. :)

(https://www.coin-database.com/images/Greece/6176-v.jpg)

Aditya
Title: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: Bimat on June 15, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
I am still waiting for one more letter which was also dispatched from Germany but it somehow reached Milan, Italy. It has been redirected to Mumbai but not arrived here yet. I have already lodged a complaint with India Post.

There is a story how I got these two letters delivered - since there was no movement of the letters after they reached India, I reached out to India Post's social media team on Twitter with tracking codes, they were very helpful and end result is now visible. Commendable job! :)

Aditya
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: chrisild on June 15, 2020, 05:31:24 PM
I believe Germany was already under lockdown then

No, that came in mid-March, roughly 15 to 20 depending on what you look at. But at least in this state, going or driving to a post office has always been possible; we did not have stay-at-home rules or specified hours. But heck, in those days we did learn to be flexible and patient ...

Last month I wanted to send a package to a friend in the US, and the DHL guy at the post office told me that this was no longer allowed due to modified US regulations. Huh? Anyway, I had to pay more than €50 for an "International Premium" package (right, that was postage, not the value of what was inside). For some obscure reason, that was allowed. Took only ;) two weeks until the recipient got it.

Christian
Title: Re: Coin shipping experiences
Post by: brandm24 on June 16, 2020, 11:54:21 AM
I haven't done a lot of shipping outside the US, but what I've done...Siberia, Australia, UK, Ireland, Norway...have gotten to where they were supposed to go. On the other hand, I've had many, many coins sent to me from the UK and Ireland. and a few from Spain. While a bit slow at times, especially now, I've eventually received everything with only one exception. Several years ago a coin coming from the UK disappeared  somewhere and never wandered into my neighborhood. It wasn't tracked so I'm not sure what happened to it. Although a nice coin, the eBay seller refunded my money promptly so it ended well. Being the eternal optimist that I am, I still expect it to arrive any day now. I'm sure it will be here tomorrow. ;D

One thing that I noticed was that items coming from the UK generally take about ten days...five or six to enter the country and about four more being driven around the country by the US Postal Service. On the other hand, items coming from Ireland take about half the time. I suppose the difference has to do with the regulations or practices of each country's postal system. In any case, as long as I receive everything, I'm happy.

Bruce