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Ancient coins => Indian subcontinent: Ancient & Pre-sultanate => Topic started by: Overlord on January 06, 2013, 06:07:06 AM

Title: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Overlord on January 06, 2013, 06:07:06 AM
Mass=2.1 g

Obverse Bust right with close-fitting headdress; blundered Greek legend; Saka era date 292 behind bust.
Reverse Three-arched hill (chaitya), crescents and star above, river below; Brahmi legend Rajana Mahaksatrapasa Svami Rudradamaputrasa Rajna Mahaksatrapasa Svami Rudrasenasa (King, Great Viceroy Svami Rudradaman's son, King, Great Viceroy Svami Rudrasena) around.


(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/RS3_zps193bd18e.jpg)

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/RU3D_zpsd0afaa14.jpg)
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Quant.Geek on January 06, 2013, 06:11:06 AM
WOW.   What a beautiful coin.  Preserved well with stunning details.  Outstanding attribution as well...


Ram
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Figleaf on January 06, 2013, 12:06:31 PM
Super. A museum quality coin with a superb explanation of the legend. It doesn't get much better. Congratulations and thanks.

Peter
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Md. Shariful Islam on January 09, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Super. A museum quality coin with a superb explanation of the legend. It doesn't get much better. Congratulations and thanks.

Peter

Rightly said. Awsome.
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: THCoins on September 15, 2013, 06:14:04 PM
I thought i would append this existing thread with another coin. At first sight this looks very different from the one shown above. However, it actually is from the same ruler. Also in de ancient period there were succesions of die cutters and changes in writing style over the years. According to the recent monograph by Alex Fishman on the Ksatrapa coins the previous is the most common Rudrasena III type II. What i show below is a later type IV coin, which is fairly rare.

Unfortunately the name of the ruler is in the upper right quadrant of the reverse, which shows little detail. Luckily the Ksatrapa rulers also name their fathers on their coins. Using the transcription above as guide it is fairly easy to read RuDraDaMa PuTraSa (son of Rudradaman) in the lower left quadrant.
The above coins showed a nice date at the back of the rulers head. In my coin at first that seems unreadable. Notice however that there is a small triangular symbol behind the head at the level of the lower margin of the earlobe. There is only one year during the reign of Rudrasena III with this symbol. That is the Saka year 300, or 378 AD. This is also the last year of his rule.
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: cmerc on September 18, 2013, 01:44:30 AM
Full date visible!!  Normally you can only see the bottom of the dates, or none at all.  Can I has it please?
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: THCoins on September 18, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
Don't think Overlord will realease his preciouzz voluntarily.

A fully visible date indeed is a nice bonus, but also will add at least 50 % to the price of the specialized ancient dealers. Best to look for these with the more general dealers, they usually can not keep the different rulers from the series apart and may not appreciate "off centre" strikes.
Note that dating of these coins only started in 178 AD. Coins before this time only have corrupt Greek characters behind the head.
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Overlord on November 02, 2014, 01:36:21 PM
The translation in the original post has several errors. I will correct it when I have more time.
In the meantime, here is a Type III example (reverse die considerably smaller than the flan, resulting in the complete legend being visible) to go with the Type II specimen in the original post and Type IV posted by THCoins. The lettering, in general is very crude.

Obverse
(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/Ru1_zpsa718e1e9.jpg) (http://s805.photobucket.com/user/MajesticOverlord/media/Ru1_zpsa718e1e9.jpg.html)

Reverse
(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/Ru2_zps15c9871e.jpg) (http://s805.photobucket.com/user/MajesticOverlord/media/Ru2_zps15c9871e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: THCoins on November 02, 2014, 03:44:18 PM
Nice addition Overlord !
The lettering of this may be crude, but still this is better than some of the Rudrasena III types where the characters just look like featureless spagetthi. I think no one will mind the few errors in the previous transcription as for many, including me, this was a help in learning to read these ! But it does show you need some experience to read what the legend inscriber meant to write.
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Figleaf on November 03, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
What a treat this thread is. I am secretly hoping someone will find a type I to post.

I second TH's sentiments on the overlay, explaining the text. They are important to our members. See their index here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,29202.0.html).

Peter
Title: Re: Kshatrapa dynasty: Rudrasena III (SE 270-300; 348-378 AD), AR Drachm, SE292
Post by: Overlord on November 08, 2014, 07:11:33 AM
Another type 2 with corrected legend:

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/Ksh_zps993e5223.jpg) (http://s805.photobucket.com/user/MajesticOverlord/media/Ksh_zps993e5223.jpg.html)

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/Ksh-Corr_zpsb4844f8f.jpg) (http://s805.photobucket.com/user/MajesticOverlord/media/Ksh-Corr_zpsb4844f8f.jpg.html)

And another with a slightly different legend position:
(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy340/MajesticOverlord/Ksh2_zps77d82a32.jpg) (http://s805.photobucket.com/user/MajesticOverlord/media/Ksh2_zps77d82a32.jpg.html)