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Modern European coins except the euro => Spain, Portugal => Gibraltar => Topic started by: <k> on October 17, 2011, 08:50:50 PM

Title: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 17, 2011, 08:50:50 PM
Parent topic:  Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12037.0.html)



The parent topic (above) gives an overview of the coinage of the Gibraltar since decimalisation. Please post any comments, questions or corrections here.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on October 18, 2011, 12:16:29 AM
1994 Europort coins to the best of my knowledge do not exist.

I have seen some strange coins from Gibraltar over the years, including a 2000 20p struck in Aluminium and a 1995 Christmas 50p in Bimetallic so nothing is beyond the realms of possibility.

If it's any use (don't think these circulated much)
(https://by2.storage.live.com/items/40C7DDE6B0B296A1!351:Scaled1024/Gbz%20%C2%A32.jpg?psid=1&ck=0&ex=720)

My 1995 1994 £1 is quite quite awful - but I kept it because it proves it was a circulation coin!
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2011, 12:20:33 AM
Thanks, Andy. I have three different designs of Gibraltar pound coins (1988, 1993 and 2003), all given to me in change in Croydon, and all well circulated.

I would love to see a scan of your bimetallic 50p if you ever have time.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on October 18, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: coffeetime on October 18, 2011, 12:20:33 AM

I would love to see a scan of your bimetallic 50p if you ever have time.

Not mine - was outbid!
It ended whilst I was at work, so was unable to increase my bid.
I think it sold for £50 or so - but since it was a Christmas one I wasn't too bothered!

It was exactly the same as the normal sort, just struck with a Cu-Ni border / brass centre.
For some reason I neglected to keep a picture.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2011, 12:40:01 AM
It's amazing to think that Hercules lived and worked in Gibraltar. I suppose that means he owned a British passport. He seems to have been a bit of a dodgy character though, and I'm sure MI5 will have kept him under surveillance.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2011, 12:43:30 AM
Quote from: andyg on October 18, 2011, 12:30:28 AM
Not mine - was outbid!
It ended whilst I was at work, so was unable to increase my bid.
I think it sold for £50 or so - but since it was a Christmas one I wasn't too bothered!

It was exactly the same as the normal sort, just struck with a Cu-Ni border / brass centre.
For some reason I neglected to keep a picture.

£50 is not bad for such an item, though the Xmas designs are truly groan-worthy.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: bart on October 18, 2011, 07:51:04 AM
Quote from: coffeetime on October 17, 2011, 10:47:29 PM
Some collectors are not convinced that this reduced size 1994 10 pence design exists, even though it is recorded by the Standard Catalog of World Coins. Do any of our members own one of these elusive beasts?

I have such one in my collection...
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on October 18, 2011, 08:31:19 PM
2001 £2 and,
2002-2003 £2....
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
Quote from: andyg on October 18, 2011, 08:31:19 PM
2001 £2 and,
2002-2003 £2....

Yes, this is where it gets complex. I'm never sure whether they were intended to circulate. In the UK, of course, our different annual two pound designs most definitely do circulate, as I receive them in change often enough. When I've got to the end of the topic, I'll backtrack and fit those ones in.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2011, 08:53:30 PM
Numismaster seems to think there is a difference between the 2005 and 2008 two pound coins. It calls the 2005 one KM 1073, whilst the 2008 version is KM 1092. I can see no difference between the 2005 and 2008 designs, obverse or reverse. Can you?
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on October 18, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
2005 to 2010, with 2005 on the left... err 2010,  no maybe 2005...
Anyway they all look the same to me!
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 18, 2011, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: andyg on October 18, 2011, 10:49:34 PM
2005 to 2010, with 2005 on the left... err 2010,  no maybe 2005...
Anyway they all look the same to me!

And to me. Would you like to inform Numismaster of their duplicate KM numbers?
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on October 19, 2011, 12:02:56 AM
In 2010 the monkey decided that the '5' had gotten too uncomfortable to sit on, so when no one was looking he cunningly switched the '5' for the 'five pence'.  If you look closely you can see that he didn't quite make it back to the exact same sitting position he was in before the coin was struck.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on October 19, 2011, 12:37:18 AM
Quote from: andyg on October 19, 2011, 12:02:56 AM
In 2010 the monkey decided that the '5' had gotten too uncomfortable to sit on, so when no one was looking he cunningly switched the '5' for the 'five pence'.  If you look closely you can see that he didn't quite make it back to the exact same sitting position he was in before the coin was struck.

;D  Well, I tried to fit all the monkeys in here:

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12037.msg81567.html#msg81567
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: UK Decimal + on November 04, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
The main topic has been very interesting (thank you!), as have the connents here (thanks again!), but I think that there is much that we do not know about modern Gibraltar coins (which are circulation coins rather than collector coins, etc.) and official information is sadly lacking. A good start has been made with the main topic, but as this thread shows, there are gaps.

On account of the lack of detailed information on modern Gibraltar coins, I am trying to produce an Excel Workbook on the subject. The current version is based on information here plus the coins that I found circulating whilst I was in Gibraltar.

If you think that you might be able to assist, please see Project Gibraltar (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12320.new.html)

Thanks,

Bill.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 17, 2014, 12:10:11 AM
Those sneaky Gibraltarians have been at it again...

(2013 has only just been issued)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on January 17, 2014, 12:16:50 AM
Well, they have to keep the collectors happy. They still haven't done sideways, upside down, back to front, invisible ink.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: malj1 on January 17, 2014, 12:24:23 AM
I see they have taken Queen Elizabeth as their own too!
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 18, 2014, 05:48:34 AM
Quote from: malj1 on January 17, 2014, 12:24:23 AM
I see they have taken Queen Elizabeth as their own too!

The preferred to take the younger one.
Senior has been kept for you ;)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on January 06, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Yesterday there has been found a new 1 pound coin in circulation. The coin is dated 2014 and may be part of a new standard series.
The government of Gibraltar has never published that they would issue a new 1 pound coin nor can I find anything about it on other numismatic websites. The coin depicts a dragon tree which grow in the Botanic gardens of Gibraltar.
I would like to thank Mr. Schön and <k> for sharing their interesting view with me about this piece.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114401;image) (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114402;image)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on January 06, 2015, 09:09:19 PM
(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae231/octoid/Yemen20rials2004_zps4c3b6a5f.jpg)

Yemen, 20 rials, 2004.  Bimetallic. A steel version of the coin was issued in 2006.




(http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae231/octoid/YemenDragontrees_zpsffe36873.jpg)

The Dragon Blood Tree (Dracaena cinnabari) is a Dragon Tree unique to Socotra Island, Yemen. This evergreen species is named after its dark red resin, which is known as "dragon's blood".
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 06, 2015, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: eurocoin on January 06, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Yesterday there has been found a new 1 pound coin in circulation. The coin is dated 2014 and may be part of a new standard series.
The government of Gibraltar has never published that they would issue a new 1 pound coin nor can I find anything about it on other numismatic websites. The coin depicts a dragon tree which grow in the Botanic gardens of Gibraltar.
I would like to thank Mr. Schön and <k> for sharing their interesting view with me about this piece.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114401;image) (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114402;image)


yup, received same picture in my inbox this morning.

The notice to issue circulating coins for 2014 was only issued on 12th Dec, so these must be quite new.  I hope I'm wrong - but I think this is part of the rolling refreshment of the Gibraltar designs.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 07, 2015, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: eurocoin on January 06, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Yesterday there has been found a new 1 pound coin in circulation. The coin is dated 2014 and may be part of a new standard series.

Congratulations. Great find. Where did you find it?
Thanks for reporting.

Quote from: andyg on January 06, 2015, 09:10:50 PM
The notice to issue circulating coins for 2014 was only issued on 12th Dec, so these must be quite new.

Can we have the source of the notice?
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 07, 2015, 12:50:55 AM
Quote from: eurocoin on January 06, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
The government of Gibraltar has never published that they would issue a new 1 pound coin

As far as I can tell the piece of legislation is 2014/243 - but I cannot find it on line.
Also, expect the 2014 dated 5p and 10p issues to be in plated steel.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 07, 2015, 02:42:58 AM
Quote from: andyg on January 07, 2015, 12:50:55 AM
Also, expect the 2014 dated 5p and 10p issues to be in plated steel.

That is an interesting news.
Normally, Gibraltar does not issue circulation coins every year.

Are they going to be minted by Pobjoy again?
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on January 07, 2015, 07:23:50 PM
The Philatelic Bureau of Gibraltar confirmed that a new legal tender 1 pound coin has been issued.
For now this was the only new coin issued, other denominations will follow later this year.

Quote from: Pabitra on January 07, 2015, 02:42:58 AM
That is an interesting news.
Normally, Gibraltar does not issue circulation coins every year.

Are they going to be minted by Pobjoy again?

These are being minted at the Tower Mint. (Pobjoy Mint wouldn't be likely as the batch marks are missing on the coin).
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 07, 2015, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 07, 2015, 02:42:58 AM
Normally, Gibraltar does not issue circulation coins every year.

Every denomination (1p to £2) has been issued for circulation 2004-2013 (and not just in sets!)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 14, 2015, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: andyg on January 07, 2015, 12:50:55 AM
As far as I can tell the piece of legislation is 2014/243 - but I cannot find it on line.
Also, expect the 2014 dated 5p and 10p issues to be in plated steel.

As per this notification, the entire series is being redesigned
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on January 15, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
Either you are very small or have big eyes to read such a thing, Pabitra.  :D  What does the text actually say?
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 15, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 14, 2015, 03:06:31 PM
As per this notification, the entire series is being redesigned

No mention of the 1p or 2p though.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 04:36:54 PM
Neither am I small nor have big eyes. I have this document in big size.
I have this as a pdf file.
This is notification 2014/243, as indicated by Andyg.
I could not attach that file so took image of second page.
The image was very big and compressed it but it became too small.
I do not know how to compress it to only about 128 Kb.
Please send me your email Id by p.m. and I will send the pdf to you, if you need it.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
Quote from: andyg on January 15, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
No mention of the 1p or 2p though.

Yes.
Apparently, unlike UK, they do not plan to hang on to coin denominations which are no longer "in demand".
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on January 15, 2015, 05:59:18 PM
Here is the text, with thanks to Pabitra:

SECOND SUPPLEMENT TO THE GIBRALTAR GAZETTE

No. 4134 of 11 December, 2014

LEGAL NOTICE NO. 243 OF 2014.

GIBRALTAR COINAGE ACT, 1990

ISSUE OF CIRCULATING COIN NOTICE, 2014.

In exercise of the powers conferred on him by section 2 of the Gibraltar
Coinage Act 1990, and of all other enabling powers, the Minister
Responsible for Finance has issued the following notice –

Title.

1. This notice may be cited as the Issue of Circulating Coin Notice, 2014.

Issue of new coins.

2. (1) New coins of nickel plated steel, cupro-nickel, nickel brass, mixed
metal and alpaca in the denomination of £5, £2, £1, 50 pence, 20 pence,
10 pence and 5 pence shall be made.

(2) In the making of the said coins, the millesimal fineness or
composition of metals, diameters, shapes and other specifications shall
be as set out in Part I of the Schedule to the Gibraltar Coinage Act 1990.

(3) In the making of the said coins, a remedy (that is a variation from
the standards weight) shall be allowed as set out in the said Part of the
Schedule.

Design of the coins.

3. The design of the coins authorised by this notice shall be as follows –

(a) the coins shall bear on the obverse impression the effigy
of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II with the inscription
"ELIZABETH II" to the left and the inscription "QUEEN
OF GIBRALTAR" to the right and the date below;

(b) the reverse impression shall bear –

(i) on the five pound coin, a design featuring the
Rock of Gibraltar with the value of the coin
above;

(ii) on the two pound coin, a design that featuring
three Dolphins, and the value of the coin above;

(iii) on the one pound coin, a design that features a
Dragon Tree and the value of the coin above;

(iv) on the fifty pence coin, a design that features a
Barbary Macaque, the value of the coin in words
above and the value of the coin numerically
below;

(v) on the twenty pence coin, a design that features
Candytuft flowers, the value of the coin in words
above and the value of the coin numerically
below;

(vi) on the ten pence coin, a design that features a
Barbary Partridge, the value of the coin in words
above and the value of the coin numerically
below;

(vii) on the five pence coin, a design that features a
Dama De Noche flower, the value of the coin in
words above and the value of the coin
numerically below.

Legal Tender.

4. The said coins shall be current and legal tender in Gibraltar.

Dated 11th December, 2014.

F R PICARDO,

Minister responsible for finance.

GIBRALTAR GAZETTE, No 4134, Thursday 11 December, 2014
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on January 15, 2015, 06:03:15 PM
So apart from the Dragon Tree and the Dama de Noche flower, Gibraltar is just moving old themes onto different denominations.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 07:01:25 PM
Yes. All designs are changed from 2012 series except 5 Pounds.
Let us see which metallic/ alloys as well as weights are affected. You can not be sure of thickness and diameter too, in view of rather vague wording with alloys specifically for each coin and total silence on size and shape.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 15, 2015, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 07:01:25 PM
Yes. All designs are changed from 2012 series except 5 Pounds.
Let us see which metallic/ alloys as well as weights are affected. You can not be sure of thickness and diameter too, in view of rather vague wording with alloys specifically for each coin and total silence on size and shape.

Coin specifications are in the original legislation, thus we must assume for the moment that they have remained unchanged apart from the aforementioned 5p and 10p.

Once my computer is on line again (instead of this phone) I'll dig out the relevant bits.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: andyg on January 15, 2015, 08:08:23 PM
Coin specifications are in the original legislation, thus we must assume for the moment that they have remained unchanged apart from the aforementioned 5p and 10p.

Once my computer is on line again (instead of this phone) I'll dig out the relevant bits.

The present legal notice does not restrict Nickel plated steel specifically to just 5 and 10 p.
Similarly, repetition of old theme on different denominations, can not be taken to mean that the exact designs will be same as the old ones.
Any information, you dig out, will be useful.
Images of the coins will also be eagerly awaited.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 16, 2015, 12:24:44 AM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 09:04:23 PM
The present legal notice does not restrict Nickel plated steel specifically to just 5 and 10 p.
Similarly, repetition of old theme on different denominations, can not be taken to mean that the exact designs will be same as the old ones.
Any information, you dig out, will be useful.
Images of the coins will also be eagerly awaited.

2014/247 specifically amends the Gibraltar coinage act to insert "plated steel" into the descriptions for the materials for just the 5p and 10p.  A further notice will be required to change anything else above and beyond this, such as sizes/ materials of the other coins.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on January 16, 2015, 12:37:20 AM
Then which coins does
" mixed metal and alpaca"
refer to in notice 243.

Your reference is to legal notice 247 , which is later and I did not have access to it till now.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: andyg on January 16, 2015, 12:49:01 AM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 16, 2015, 12:37:20 AM
Then which coins does
" mixed metal and alpaca"
refer to in notice 243.

That needs to be taken in context with the following two paragraphs -

Quote
(2) In the making of the said coins, the millesimal fineness or
composition of metals, diameters, shapes and other specifications shall
be as set out in Part I of the Schedule to the Gibraltar Coinage Act 1990.

(3) In the making of the said coins, a remedy (that is a variation from
the standards weight) shall be allowed as set out in the said Part of the
Schedule.

Thus the metals/sizes/shapes are the same as those set out in the Gibraltar coinage act 1990 according to this notice.  Then afterwards (as you rightly point out) the 5p and 10p metals were amended.

btw, I do not know which the "mixed metals and alpaca" (German silver) refer too either!
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: africancoins on January 16, 2015, 09:04:17 PM
Don't the South Americans use the term "alpaca" for their Aluminium-Nickel-Bronze.....  That sort of alloy will be what Tower Mint use for the 5 Pounds coins for Gibraltar... instead of Virenium that Pobjoy Mint used to use the Virenium being Pobjoy's "own" material....  Though I do not have a Gibraltar 5 Pound coin from the Tower Mint.

Mixed metals...  =  ringed Bi-metallic   ...  likely.

Thanks Mr Paul Baker
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on March 02, 2015, 10:00:45 PM
These are the coins of the new series that were issued so far:

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114403;image)                   
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114404;image)                                   
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114405;image)                                       
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114406;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114401;image) 
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114407;image)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on March 03, 2015, 02:02:37 AM
Lower denomination coins tend to suffer from poor quality control operations but even then, these 5 and 50 pence are very poorly struck.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on March 11, 2015, 09:33:57 PM
Since the last update I added the 10 pence coin and now also the 2 pounds coin which also features a new design (dolphins).
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on March 12, 2015, 03:17:00 AM
From which mint?

Perhaps they have set up a mint by getting a striking press and buying off the shelf blanks :-)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on April 01, 2015, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: Pabitra on March 12, 2015, 03:17:00 AM
From which mint?

Perhaps they have set up a mint by getting a striking press and buying off the shelf blanks :-)

The new series of coins was minted at the Tower Mint.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Candy on April 08, 2015, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
Yes.
Apparently, unlike UK, they do not plan to hang on to coin denominations which are no longer "in demand".

could you clarify ?  Do you mean they are stopping issuing them ?
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on April 08, 2015, 09:49:38 PM
See reply 41 in this thread
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on April 09, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
New 20 pence coin:

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114405;image)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on April 09, 2015, 11:54:07 PM
That looks good.

 
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on December 09, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
QuoteIn the UK, the five pound coins are collector coins only and are not intended to circulate. I do not know whether that is also the case in Gibraltar.

Same for Gibraltar.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on December 09, 2015, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: Niels on December 09, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Same for Gibraltar.

Thank you, I thought not but couldn't be sure. I have amended my post.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on December 09, 2015, 04:53:44 PM
The U.K. Circulation set does not carry that denomination coin but Gibraltar set does.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on June 09, 2016, 09:35:33 AM
I have just made two amendments to the main topic:

1] I included the amended 10 pence of 2013 here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12037.msg224501.html#msg224501).

2] I amended the post here (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12037.msg224136.html#msg224136) to say that there were two versions of the smaller 10 pence issued in 1994: the Europort design and the Moorish Castle design.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: chrisild on February 11, 2017, 02:47:02 PM
More or less accidentally :) I came across this e-book (http://www.gibraltarnationalmint.gov.gi/GibraltarCoinageHigh.pdf) which may be worth reading for those interested in Gibraltar's coins. "The Currency and Coinage of Gibraltar, 1704-2014" by Richard J M Garcia MBE. This is a PDF file, 70 pages, 20 MB. (A forum search for the author's name did not yield any results, so I think this is not old hats ...)

Christian
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Figleaf on February 11, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Mmm (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,28876.msg184837.html#msg184837). Look at the bottom of the post...

The link has a copyright issue, so the book can't be placed on the bookshelf.

Peter
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: chrisild on February 12, 2017, 01:56:24 AM
Quote from: Figleaf on February 11, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Mmm (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,28876.msg184837.html#msg184837).

My apologies. I did search before I posted, but that search was limited to this forum. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on August 04, 2017, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: Pabitra on January 15, 2015, 07:01:25 PM
Yes. All designs are changed from 2012 series except 5 Pounds.

The "standard circulating" 5 pounds coin in 2014 was in fact changed too. Tower Mint issued a 5 pounds coin with a new design as well as one with the design that had been used in previous years. Although this new piece was also included in the legislation (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12038.msg193124.html#msg193124) for the series, the majority of the year sets of 2014 contained the brass piece with the old design. Only very recently the new piece, which has been minted in alpaca, has been reported by someone. The piece with the new design is much rarer than the one with the old design.

To the left the 2014 old design 5 pounds coin in brass and to the right the 2014 new design 5 pounds coin in alpaca.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4438/35534099464_a934c13713_o.jpg)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4357/36325129786_c3ee132818_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Alan71 on November 04, 2018, 04:41:48 PM
Another new series of coins for Gibraltar was announced in 2017 to mark the 50th anniversary of the 1967 referendum.  In this, Gibraltarian citizens were asked whether they wished to pass under Spanish sovereignty, with Gibraltarians keeping their British citizenship and a special status for Gibraltar within Spain; or remain under British sovereignty, with institutions of self-government.

The result was an overwhelming majority (12,138 to 44 of valid votes) wanting to remain under British sovereignty.

As an anniversary, the coins were a one-year series.  However, they weren't actually issued until 2018.  The 1p and 2p made a comeback with these issues, although they had never actually gone out of circulation in Gibraltar.

Image is from my collection.  The £2 coin is yet to be issued.  As with Isle of Man, the £1 remains round.

The 20p is unique in that the denomination is rendered in figures as well as words.  This is thought to be a mistake, and perhaps a remnant from an earlier version of the designs.

As the reverse designs are identical, this is believed to be the first time this has been done in any of "the six" since Jersey abandoned their coat of arms design after 1981.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181104/e29cdfc5b924f175eeb9a828f41caf73.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181104/83f0b5bca16b46cc0c09ada84c97907a.jpg)

The obverse is the now-familiar Pobjoy effigy of the Queen.

(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=37746.0;attach=84410;image)

Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on December 18, 2018, 07:30:14 PM
The 2 pounds coins is now out too:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4863/46370946881_938e118334.jpg)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on December 19, 2020, 07:24:04 PM
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=105020;image)




Above you see New Calpe House as it appears on the reverse of a Gibraltarian 20 pence coin of 2018.

Below you see a photo of New Calpe House in Norfolk Square, London.

Can you spot the difference.

The coin design of New Calpe House is surely the most egregious misnomer in the history of numismatics.

What happened? Did the Russians or Chinese cyberhack the Pobjoy Mint?

And should Gibraltar be punished for this? Given back to Spain and forced to use the euro and speak French?  :o
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: chrisild on December 19, 2020, 08:49:49 PM
And you call that a "milestone"? Hehehe.

Well, that thing on the coin is not the house in the sense of building – it is the Calpe House logo (https://www.calpehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/logo-dark.png). My impression is that this logo should convey the idea of a rock that is also a home, namely Gibraltar, with a large sun, and a small ship. :)

Christian
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on December 19, 2020, 09:13:32 PM
Interesting. I knew it was the logo of Calpe House, somehow didn't notice that the houses are in the shape of the Rock before.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: <k> on December 19, 2020, 09:27:01 PM
Yes, well spotted, chrisild.  8)
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: Pabitra on February 21, 2022, 11:16:06 AM
1 Pound may still get issued if the Royal mint makes bimetallic blanks available.
5 Pounds seems to have been dropped for good, from the circulation series.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: eurocoin on February 21, 2022, 11:28:04 AM
Is nonsense. Blanks are available. The Gibraltar government is just not doing anything. It seems that they underestimated the cost and logistical operation involved, and now they are less interested to do it. Although its finance minister continues to claim that they will issue the coin, something he has been saying for many years now.
Title: Re: Comments on "Milestones in the decimal coinage of Gibraltar"
Post by: gordarpi on February 24, 2022, 12:24:34 AM
Instead what i've experienced during my short stay on the Rock this past weekend is that HM the Queen@95 1£ is widely circulated probably to make up for the "forgotten" coin or to please collectors ;)
Also most coins of 2020 series starting with Sandy Bay, Skywalk etc..have never been seen by locals I have asked as of yet, except one rare occasions. While there only the 5p was seen circulated depicting the Windsor suspension bridge. Maybe it wasn't just the 1£ of this damned series where they ran into trouble. Time will tell it's story anyway.