See also: Political revolutions on coins (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26141.0)
Algeria 50 Dinars 2004 50 photo s200dpi.jpg
Algeria again remembered 1954 in 2004.
Mozambique, 20 and 50 meticais, 1986.
See also: Mozambique since independence. (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,39360.0.html)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39360.0;attach=72099;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3277.0;attach=12679;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39360.0;attach=72098;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39360.0;attach=72100;image)
Here is a wombat coin ...
(http://i.colnect.net/images/f/557/273/1-Dollar-Common-Wombat.jpg)
(Image: coinect.net)
... now for carfare, I would suggest this topic: http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/board,97.0.html
>:D Christian
Too true. The hooligans latest weapon of choice is a coin. Thrown at players or referees, it does real damage and disturbs the game.
IMHO arms on coins are a sign of ... uhhh .... political immaturity?
Which brings up the question of whether a prison stamped on metal would fit in here?
Peter
Quote from: Figleaf on May 05, 2011, 12:13:02 AM
...Which brings up the question of whether a prison stamped on metal would fit in here?
I think certainly. Isn't there an East German commemorative that memorializes Buchenwald? There are also some Polish commems too, I think, that keep us from forgetting some of the murdered millions.
v.
Quote from: villa66 on May 05, 2011, 12:52:29 PM
Isn't there an East German commemorative that memorializes Buchenwald? There are also some Polish commems too, I think, that keep us from forgetting some of the murdered millions.
Yep, the GDR issued a Buchenwald 10M commem in 1972 (not sure whether that was related to any anniversary though). And Poland certainly issued many WW2 and Holocaust related coins. Making and having them makes sense, although in my opinion the Polish central bank issues, all in all, too many different commemorative/collector coins per year.
Side note: Coins, whether they are from the years that we want to keep in mind or issued later, can sure help against "forgetting". But maybe we coin collectors tend to overestimate the role of coins in that regard. I sometimes read in American forums that some US collectors specifically collect nazi coins because, according to them, that keeps preserving the memory. So if they did not collect nazi propaganda, the world would forget about WW2? Umm ... ;)
Christian
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UK, 50 pence, 2006.
Commemorating the Victoria Cross, Britain's highest award for valour.
Argentina.jpg
2007: 25th anniversary of the Falklands Islands conflict. Britain should never have lost them in the first place, of course, but it helped Mrs Thatcher's "Iron Lady" reputation when she regained them, and restored Britain's post-imperial military confidence; perhaps this later turned into over-confidence, if you consider Tony Blair's policies.
The Argentinians said "Las Malvinas" were rightfully theirs. The Latin Americans do not like having Anglo-Saxons in their geographical area. However, the Latin Americans are also late-comers, compared to the native Indians, and at least 98% of Falklanders want to remain British, so democracy won on this occasion. Britain also had a lot of covert help from Chile (General Pinochet) and the US under President Reagan. Mrs Thatcher never forgot her gratitude to Pinochet, and spoke on his behalf when he was kept under arrest in England by the Blair government of the 1990s. Now it is said that the Falklands have found oil in their seas, but as usual these days, nothing like as much as was originally expected.
Neither the Argentinian nor the Falkland coin designs are anything special, unfortunately.
Falkland Islands, 50 pence, 2007.jpg
Quote from: chrisild on May 05, 2011, 01:22:02 PM
....although in my opinion the Polish central bank issues, all in all, too many different commemorative/collector coins per year.
Side note: Coins, whether they are from the years that we want to keep in mind or issued later, can sure help against "forgetting". But maybe we coin collectors tend to overestimate the role of coins in that regard. I sometimes read in American forums that some US collectors specifically collect nazi coins because, according to them, that keeps preserving the memory. So if they did not collect nazi propaganda, the world would forget about WW2? Umm ... ;)
Christian
I share your opinion about the number of Polish commems per year. And I agree that coin collectors--like humans everywhere--are inclined to accord too much importance to their own little neck of the woods. But that said, I think that coins are the great survivors over the centuries, and millennia, so that whatever makes it onto a common (non-zinc!) coin has a decent chance at outlasting the things that don't, at least so far as humanity's historical memory goes.
Collecting Nazi coins to preserve memories of WWII? I take your point, Christian. It seems like a stretch. But I will demur at least to the degree that individual memory is such an incredibly fragile and malleable thing. Without reminders constantly in front of us, we forget.
So I think the American reason for collecting these little swastikas is better grounded in the reality of human experience than is the frequent European approach, which is to ignore their existence.
Sure, ignore them and they lose their power. They lose the ability to excite. But they lose their cautionary power too.
So...
:-\ v.
Quote from: villa66 on May 06, 2011, 03:05:25 AM
So I think the American reason for collecting these little swastikas is better grounded in the reality of human experience than is the frequent European approach, which is to ignore their existence.
Sure, ignore them and they lose their power. They lose the ability to excite. But they lose their cautionary power too.
There is that joke that came up in Germany in the late 1960s, I think. People who wanted a job in the German government or as a judge were asked, during the interview, to count from 20 to 50. One guy counted this way: "(...) 29, 30, 31, 32, 33 ---- 45, 46, 47 (...)" and got the job. ;D
Then we have the other extreme. People who can apparently count from 33 to 45 only - nada before and zilch after that.
The best approach would of course be to ignore neither part, in the history of any country. The problem with coins is that they are usually issued by governments and in a way are government propaganda. Does a Krugerrand coin reflect Apartheid? Does a coin issued under Andrew Jackson reflect the "Indian Removal"? We can certainly learn a lot from and with coins. In many cases a subtle change in an inscription gets us interested; we want to find out more about why a king turns from a FID.DEF. IND.IMP. into a mere FID.DEF. for example.
But we should be aware that they - be it pieces that were issued at the time or pieces that commemorate something which happened in the past - are very "selective" reminders of historical events. And back to the original topic (remember, we do not go off-topic but merely meander ;) ), you won't find a single coin from the Federal Republic of Germany with a warfare or combat theme. The GDR issued a 25 Years NVA (military forces) commem in 1981, a 30 Years Combat Groups piece in 1983. Images from ddr-muenzen.de:
(http://www.ddr-muenzen.de/bilder/10-mark/25-jahre-nva.jpg) (http://www.ddr-muenzen.de/bilder/10-mark/kampfgruppen.jpg)
Christian
QuoteI sometimes read in American forums that some US collectors specifically collect nazi coins because, according to them, that keeps preserving the memory. So if they did not collect nazi propaganda, the world would forget about WW2?
Uh huh, I know of the people you cite. Often times they are the ones at gun shows, touting their 2nd Amendment rights(right to bear arms), often times they flout the Confederate flag. Yup. Draw your own conclusions, but I have my opinion of them and it is not favourable.
By far the majority of those can't tell you anything about the history of the Confederacy, its ideals or the issues that led to Seccession.
Two things they can mention is slavery and rebellion. Slavery was the media attention getting issue but not the only ones by far and at the start
not even the most important. They may tout the flag but few of them understand it.
Dale
Quote from: scottishmoney on May 06, 2011, 01:58:29 PM
.....often times they flout the Confederate flag......
Quote from: chrisild on May 06, 2011, 09:03:58 AM
There is that joke that came up in Germany in the late 1960s, I think. People who wanted a job in the German government or as a judge were asked, during the interview, to count from 20 to 50. One guy counted this way: "(...) 29, 30, 31, 32, 33 ---- 45, 46, 47 (...)" and got the job. ;D
Then we have the other extreme. People who can apparently count from 33 to 45 only - nada before and zilch after that....
Good joke, chrisild, and revealing.
I can remember, twenty or more years ago, genuinely feeling sorry for younger Germans; it was their misfortune to have to live in the time before the crimes of the Nazis could be put into a box. And I remember how sorry I felt for the older German men—about the age of my own father, then still living—who had reached that time in their lives when they wanted so much to talk about their youth, and were unable to fully do so, they said, because the young people around them would not understand.
(And so it was a common thing, when we were out in the countryside war-gaming, for older German men to seek out American soldiers to talk with about "soldiering.")
I can remember having a lot of patience then, and I knew it was only a matter of time—beyond my own lifespan, of course, but only a matter of time—before Germans would be able to put 1933-45 into a box, stick it in the attic, and finally get past the extreme defensiveness that so informed the way they looked at things.
And here below—after a little meandering ;)—are a pair of reminders of the warfare that shaped the world from which we will very soon be emerging:
v.
Guess that 1968 (and the following years) changed quite a bit here. The "68ers" were not the first ones to ask the generation of their parents uncomfortable questions, but from what I have read, the debate became more public after those years. This "extreme defensiveness" you observed was probably quite common in the generation that was actively involved in the nazi regime, ie. people born in the 1920s or earlier. I don't think there is a trend in today's Germany to put those years aside in any way, but most here do not focus so exclusively on them. Personally I am much more worried about the recent rise of nationalism, partly extreme, in some European countries.
As for those two coins, I have them too - interestingly Nazi Germany did not issue any coins with warfare/combat designs. Maybe those would have come after Hitler's "final victory", who knows. Here is a circulation coin (image: worldcoincallery.com) from Greece, issued during the dictatorship. In front of the phoenix, a soldier armed with some gun. All denominations had that emblem in those years.
(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/img11/77-101.jpg)
Christian
Quote from: dalehall on May 06, 2011, 03:02:30 PM
By far the majority of those can't tell you anything about the history of the Confederacy, its ideals or the issues that led to Seccession.
Two things they can mention is slavery and rebellion. Slavery was the media attention getting issue but not the only ones by far and at the start
not even the most important. They may tout the flag but few of them understand it.
Dale
The Civil War is a pretty heady subject in my family history. My ancestors in Missouri fought on both sides - in the same battle no less. My Great Grandmother wouldn't even discuss that part of our family history - her stories were before and after the war. I knew better than to even ask her what her dad did in the war.
Ha, in March I visited Fort Sumter, where "it all" began 150 years ago. Quite an interesting trip, even though there is not that much to see on the island any more. But yes, I was there in the sesquicentennial year. ;)
And I have seen Gettyburg too, on an earlier trip. We went to the Visitor Center, saw the "cyclorama" (well done) and even drove around quite a bit. Usually I don't do that kind of battle tourism, but it was interesting to see how both "sides" now consider the site to be part of the national heritage. Usually, when you erect war monuments, you don't have to take the "enemy" into account - you just celebrate your own victories. But here you have to think about issues such as reconciliation and bringing the memories and stories of either side together. My impression was that schoolkids (and adults too, of course) have great "on site" material to learn that this war was not about slavery alone. What people later keep in mind or forget is a different story ...
Christian
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USA 1976 commemorative quarter.
Quote from: chrisild on May 07, 2011, 02:58:27 PM
Ha, in March I visited Fort Sumter, where "it all" began 150 years ago. Quite an interesting trip, even though there is not that much to see on the island any more. But yes, I was there in the sesquicentennial year. ;)
And I have seen Gettyburg too, on an earlier trip. We went to the Visitor Center, saw the "cyclorama" (well done) and even drove around quite a bit. Usually I don't do that kind of battle tourism, but it was interesting to see how both "sides" now consider the site to be part of the national heritage. Usually, when you erect war monuments, you don't have to take the "enemy" into account - you just celebrate your own victories. But here you have to think about issues such as reconciliation and bringing the memories and stories of either side together. My impression was that schoolkids (and adults too, of course) have great "on site" material to learn that this war was not about slavery alone. What people later keep in mind or forget is a different story ...
Christian
Wars are really not glorious, rather they are a stain, bloody and gruesome, on our history. Likewise in later wars, WWI for instance, one of my great great grandfathers who immigrated from Germany to avoid becoming the Kaiser's cannon fodder as a boy in 1871 would have to send his sons to fight Prussian militarism again in 1917. Then their sons had to fight in WWII, against Germany and Japan. One of my cousins was killed during the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944. I have held and read his very last letter home to my cousin, his younger brother -it really hits you hard when you think he was killed only hours after writing a letter home, where he was hoping soon that the war would end and he could come home. Instead he is buried in Belgium, a place far from home and nothing like it.
My one uncle that served in WWI, my German ancestors side, he was gassed in France in 1918. He would live a long somewhat miserable life afterwards - his lungs were a mess, I can remember when I was a young boy he still had a rough time getting around because of not being able to breathe like the rest of us. I still have his WWI trench coat, it is a big heavy woolen jacket. I cannot imagine having to wear that thing to stay warm - it is very heavy, and also very scratchy - I know because I tried it on one time.
War sucks. There is nothing glorious about it. You can put it or memorialise it on a coin, but it still killed and maimed a lot of people - perhaps the person who would have cured cancer or developed a clean and inexpensive energy source.
I think Christian saw the battlefields as a lesson of what NOT to do. I visited some battlefields, notably Waterloo, Crécy, Eben Emael, the Golan heights and the Pointe du Hoc. As Von Clausewitz wrote, "the rational army would turn around and flee."
My approach: yes, remember, but no, do not imitate. Do not glorify war on a coin.
Peter
After first encountering it on coins, the Nazi emblem of the above ('36-'39) style made a real impression on me when I saw it in photos, affixed to the hulls of German warships of that time. (And then as a badge on various uniforms of the Wehrmacht.)
I noted—with childish puzzlement—how strange it was that with the advent of war the previously stern and angular eagle of German coinage had become the rounder and seemingly more peaceful creature seen below.
:) v.
Quote from: chrisild on May 07, 2011, 01:21:54 PM
...This "extreme defensiveness" you observed was probably quite common in the generation that was actively involved in the nazi regime, ie. people born in the 1920s or earlier....As for those two coins, I have them too - interestingly Nazi Germany did not issue any coins with warfare/combat design....
I was going to say that, but I was afraid I would be slapped ;D with the "Garrison Church" commems of 1934, one of which is seen below. (I grew up reading of this building being called a "military church.")
As for the "extreme defensiveness" I mentioned, it was the younger Germans I was talking about, those born well after the war and thus in no way personally responsible for the events of that era. They nevertheless continued to carry a huge chip on their shoulder, within my own experience anyway.
That is, within my own experience, Americans can converse with Germans about the American crimes against Native Americans, or the American crime of slavery and of our centuries-long brutality toward African-Americans (not to mention the bizarre compromise with the institution of slavery that so puts the lie to our founding documents)—these and many more American defects can be talked about between a German and an American, and the subject of the Nazis and of the Holocaust will never come up....But let a conversation begin about the Holocaust, or even just generally about the Nazis and their depredations during the years, say 1937-1945, and you can be very sure that you'll soon be hearing about the American Indians, as well as other selections from the (extremely thick) catalog of American crimes and inconsistencies.
My hope—although at one time it was my conviction—is that one of these days the Germans will be able to occasionally get that box marked "swastika" down out of the attic and look at its contents, recoil, shudder, perhaps curse themselves, and then be able to put the box back in the attic—all these things, instead of so often seeming to utter a reflexive "Well, you've got a box of this stuff too."
So I wouldn't be too hard on people who collect the "swastika coins" of the 1933-45 time period, just as I wouldn't want to be too hard on people who collect Confederate currency, or hope to find that their replica Confederate half dollar is actually the real thing.
:) v.
Quote from: villa66 on May 07, 2011, 06:52:44 PM
But let a conversation begin about the Holocaust, or even just generally about the Nazis and their depredations during the years, say 1937-1945, and you can be very sure that you'll soon be hearing about the American Indians, as well as other selections from the (extremely thick) catalog of American crimes and inconsistencies.
Well, I have been through" conversations" like that in the US. It gets boring, to put it very mildly, to constantly having to discuss the only dozen years in German history that these people seem to be interested in.
Christian
Canada YOV.jpg
Canada, Year of the Veteran, 2005.
Quote from: chrisild on May 07, 2011, 07:50:21 PM
Well, I have been through" conversations" like that in the US. It gets boring, to put it very mildly, to constantly having to discuss the only dozen years in German history that these people seem to be interested in.
Christian
I'd like to see a long conversation about the treatment of the US Native Americans, that went on for hundreds of years - and who even the Nazi's got their idea for "concentration camps" from "Indian reservations".
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Czechoslovakia: Tenth anniversary of the end of World War Two.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20133.0;attach=72156;image)
Zimbabwe war memorial. 25 dollar, 2003.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=122816)
Liberia, 5 dollars. Military memorial.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23875.0;attach=100355;image)
Not sure if this is entirely on topic. Could mounted police be considered as paramilitary?
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13600.0;attach=80691;image)
UK, 2 pounds, 2005.
London, the Blitz.
Romania 50-lei-1938.jpg
Royalty is fond of dressing up in military uniform.
The date on this Romanian 50 lei coin of 1938 of King Carol II surprises me.
Surely such uniforms became outmoded after the First World War?
Iran ½ Pahlavi, AH 1310-CE 1931.jpg
Here is Reza Shah in military uniform, back in 1931.
Albania 1 lek 1939-.jpeg
Albania 1 lek 1939.jpeg
Albania, 1 lek, 1939.
Vittorio Emanuele III of Italy, posing in his military helmet, on a coin of Italian-occupied Albania.
(https://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=135525)
Here is the King of Tonga getting in on the act in 1975.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=130298)
Democratic Republic of Zaire, 5 makuta, 1967.
Mobutu of Zaire looking like the military dictator that he was.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=114454;image)
New Zealand, Waitangi commemorative crown, 1935.
When you make war, the objective is to win the peace. Here is a portrayal of a famous peace treaty.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=116088;image)
Here's an unusual design that I've always liked. Haiti, 5 gourdes, 1995.
The four men are:
Top: Toussaint Louverture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toussaint_Louverture),
Left: Henri Christophe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Christophe),
Right: Jean Jacques Dessalines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Dessalines),
Bottom: Alexandre Pétion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_P%C3%A9tion)
OperationTorch.jpg
Gibraltar. Operation Torch.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=119614)
Gibraltar again.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5546;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5547;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5548;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5549;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5550;image)
Roosevelt.jpg
An over-busy Gibraltar coin depicting FDR.
Things weren't so peaceful in the old days, either.
(http://www.brianrxm.com/posts/post_rome_constantius2_feltemp.jpg)
Constantius II Bronze - Fel Temp Aquileia
Diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right
D N CONSTAN-TIVS P F AVG
Soldier spearing falling enemy horseman
FEL TEMP REPARATIO - Exergue: AQP
Struck: AD 352-355, Aquileia Mint
Size: 16mm, Weight: 1.68gm
:)
Albania 1 lek 1969.jpg
Albania, 1969.
Reverse: sculpture by Odhise Paskali: "Victorious Partisan".
Reverse legend: 25th Anniversary of Liberation.
Albania 2 leke 1989.jpg
Albania, 1989, 2 leke.
Statue of the Unknown Soldier. 45th Anniversary of Liberation.
New Guinea too, featured native weapons on their 3d and 6d in 1935
more at Coinage of New Guinea and Papua New Guinea (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,12670.0.html)
You should make a link to the images, Malcolm.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100058;image)
A representation of the stone head of a native war club with four points.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100057;image)
A representation of the stone head of a native war club in the form of an eight-pointed star.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=121486)
South Korea, 1000 Won, 1970. UN forces.
Portugal 2½e 2010.jpg
Portugal, 2½ euros, 2010.
Linhas de Torres, Lisbon. The Torres Defence Line.
Portugal 2½e 2011.jpg
Portugal, 2½ euros, 2011. The Centenary of the Army Institute of Pupils.
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Russia-2012-b.JPG
Russia, 2012: set of 5 rouble coins commemorating the 1812 war against Napoleon.
Battles commemorated:
Red Place (?)
Smolensk
Borodino
Vyazma
Tarutino
Berezina
Russia 2012 2 roubles set.jpg
Russia, 2012 set of 2 roubles coins commemorating the 1812 war against Napoleon.
1. Field Marshal MI Kutuzov
2. Field Marshal Mikhail Barclay de Tolly
3. General of Infantry PI Bagration
4. Cavalry General LL Bennigsen,
5. Field-Marshal PH Wittgenstein
6. Lieutenant-General D. Davydov,
7. Infantry General DS Dokhturov,
8. Staff-Captain NA Durov
9. General of Infantry AP Yermolov
10. Guerrilla Organiser (?) Vasilisa Kozhin,
11. Major General AI Kutaisov,
12. General of Infantry MA Miloradovich
13. General of Infantry AI Ostermann-Tolstoy,
14. Cavalry General NN Rajewski,
15. Cavalry General MI Platov
16. Emperor Alexander I.
17. 200th anniversary of the Patriotic War 1812
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11958.0;attach=75298;image)
The Canadian 5 cents 'V for Victory' design of 1943.
It was continued in chromium-plated steel in 1944 and 1945.
See also: Canada Victory 5c piece: alternative sketches (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11958.0.html).
Can anybody think of any other war propaganda coin produced during the relevant war? Or is this the only one?
The Australians contemplated issuing one but changed their mind: Australian Commemorative WW2 6d - rejected designs (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,11872.0.html).
Quote from: <k> on October 05, 2012, 12:55:10 PM
8. Staff-Captain NA Durov
Very interesting biographic note here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadezhda_Durova).
Peter
Quote from: <k> on January 01, 2013, 03:05:42 PM
Can anybody think of any other war propaganda coin produced during the relevant war?
I always think of the Nazi-vetted Dutch coinage of 1941-44 in those terms, with the message being the transition from a Dutch state into a German province.
The 1941-44 coinage of Vichy "France" strikes me as a propaganda issue intended to serve war aims....
And so does its 1944 (Anglo-American) antidote:
And the somewhat different American sense of the word "propaganda" notwithstanding, I'd be comfortable calling the piece below "wartime messaging." The type two Standing Liberty quarter introduced in 1917, with its added chain-mail and subtracted fussiness, I think, has much less to do with publicly ordered modesty than it does the changed national mood after Imperial Germany had invited the U.S. into WWI.
v.
Quote from: villa66 on January 03, 2013, 12:04:38 AM
The type two Standing Liberty quarter introduced in 1917, with its added chain-mail and subtracted fussiness,...the changed national mood after Imperial Germany had invited the U.S. into WWI.
So we can call that one overt propaganda, more or less. The coinages of occupied territories were liable to change anyway (though not all did), so I wouldn't call the Dutch or Vichy French war coinages directly propagandistic, but then, as I have said elsewhere, everything is ultimately political.
Quote from: <k> on January 03, 2013, 02:29:35 PM...The coinages of occupied territories were liable to change anyway (though not all did), so I wouldn't call the Dutch or Vichy French war coinages directly propagandistic, but then, as I have said elsewhere, everything is ultimately political.
I think the pseudo-Dutch and the "French" coinages of 1941-44 are somewhat special cases--the pseudo-Dutch stuff because the German intent was to incorporate the area into the Reich itself, and the coin designs were deliberately drawn to exclude the usual display of what was then still an opposition government-in-being (and which, though in exile, was still actively contesting the country's take-over). The generic nature of the pseudo-Dutch coinage--that is, the very fact that it appears so apolitical--is what makes it seem to me to be so much of an effort to propagandize. To me these coins seem like groundwork for the later application of a different set of political symbology.
To me, the Vichy "French" stuff seems like even more obvious propaganda, as does the Allied invasion coin, because of the dueling mottoes. No one needs reminding of what a departure the Vichy exhortation "Travail-Famile-Patrie" was from the usual French "Liberte-Egualite-Fraternite." The first is Vichy propaganda announcing (and insisting on) a completely new approach to "French" life (along with an end to any extracurricular war-making in the name of France); the Allied piece, on the other hand, is propaganda promising a restoration of France's traditional "Liberte-Egualite-Fraternite," and as such it too seems to both announce--and request--a change of French thinking.
:) v.
Hi,
the new Russian series of 2 roubles important military persons in the "patriotic war 1812", km1392-1406, are all showing the important miltary persons as seen from the Russian side:
Mikhail Kutuzov
Barclay de Tolly
Pyotr Bagration
Leonty Bennigsen
Pyotr Wittgenstein
Denis Davydov
Dmitry Dokhturov
Nadezhda Durova
Aleksey Yermolov
Vasilisa Kozhina
Alexander Kutaysov
Mikhail Miloradovich
Alexander Ostermann-Tolstoy
Nikolay Raevsky
Matvei Platov
Unfortunately my images are by far too big to attach here, so if anybody wants to see them, please ask me by mail.
Ciao
Iraq 5 dinar 1971.jpg
Iraq, 5 dinar, 1971. 50th Anniversary of the Iraqi Army.
Iraq 1 dinar 1981.jpg
Iraq, 1 dinar, 1981.
50th Anniversary of the Iraqi Air Force. Portrait of Saddam Hussein.
The biplane on the right is possibly an Avro 504 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_504). The fighter on the left is undoubtedly a Mig 25 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mig_25).
Peter
India - Rs 5 and Rs 100 - 150 years of war of independence
(http://en.numista.com/catalogue/photos/inde/g508.jpg)
India - Rs 5 and Rs 100 - 150 years of Kuka Movement
(http://en.numista.com/catalogue/photos/inde/g1585.jpg)
Quote from: chrisild on May 06, 2011, 09:03:58 AMAnd back to the original topic (remember, we do not go off-topic but merely meander ;) ), you won't find a single coin from the Federal Republic of Germany with a warfare or combat theme.
The closest thing I can find is this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Markgraf_VS.JPG/477px-Markgraf_VS.JPG)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Markgraf_RS.JPG/479px-Markgraf_RS.JPG)
1 Nov 1955, 5 DM, FRG
300 Years of the birth of Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden, a General who beat the Ottomans and saved Vienna
With the side legend :"SCHILD DES REICHES" (Shield of the Reich.), I may say this coin do have a military historical value.
China, 1995, 100 Yuan
50 Years Anniversary of Chinese War of Resistance against Japan Victory(50 Years of Sino-Japanese War Victory)
The stone lion is a part of Marco Polo Bridge, where the war actually started(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_Incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_Incident)).
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/%E5%8D%A2%E6%B2%9F%E6%A1%A5%E7%9A%84%E7%8B%AE%E5%AD%90_%E9%80%8F%E8%A7%86.JPG/320px-%E5%8D%A2%E6%B2%9F%E6%A1%A5%E7%9A%84%E7%8B%AE%E5%AD%90_%E9%80%8F%E8%A7%86.JPG)(http://web.archive.org/web/20140823003418/http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/ChineseSoldierOnLugouBridge1937.jpg)
(http://web.archive.org/web/20151110122603/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/407/wz0j.jpg)
Regards
Chuan
ITALY. 20 Lire, 1928 , 10th anniversary of the end of World War I.
(http://web.archive.org/web/20151110182036/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/822/ajip.png)
Turkey 1990, 75 Anniversary of Gallipoli， 20000 Lira
If I was the designer I would have used the iconic "Gallipoli Star"
(http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/824/1mjq.jpg)
Australia 2005, 90 Anniversary of Gallipoli, 1 Dollar
(http://web.archive.org/web/20151110182007/http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/landing/24/ke44.jpg)
Australia Remembrance Day 2012 $2
Nice design.
(http://news.coinupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/coin2.jpg)
UK £2 2014-.jpg
UK, 2 pounds, 2014. Centenary of the outbreak of World War One.
Famous propaganda poster, showing Lord Kitchener.
Austria 5 euro 2015.jpg
Austria, 5 euro, 2015. 60 years of the Federal Army.
The coin is minted in copper and silver versions.
India Golden Jubilee of 1965 War
Canada 2 dollars 2014. 75 years of the World War II
(http://savepic.su/4457626.jpg)
Canada 2 dollars 2015. 100 years poem "In Flanders Fields"
(http://savepic.su/6709901.jpg)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=119621)
Gibraltar, 1 pound, 2004. The Great Siege, 1770-83. The Koehler Siege Gun, invented by Lieut Koehler.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=119624)
Gibraltar, 10 pence, 2005. The Great Siege, 1770-83. The Koehler Siege Gun, invented by Lieut Koehler.
Gibraltar 10p 2013.jpg
In 2013, the literals and numerals reversed their positions on the 10 pence coin design.
Gibraltar 2p 2005.jpg
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=119614)
Gibraltar, 10 pence, 2004 and 2 pence, 2005. Operation Torch.
Canada $2 (2016): 75th Anniversary of Battle of the Atlantic
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36935.0;attach=65757;image)
Aditya
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=119635)
The cannon of the Ince battery appeared on the reverse of the Gibraltarian two pound coins of 2002 and 2003.
New Zealand 1s 1947.jpg
New Zealand, 1 shilling, 1947. Maori warrior performing ceremonial war dance.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=96325;image)
Alderney, 2 pounds, 1994. Anniversary of the Normandy invasion.
St. Helena-Ascension 50p 1994.jpg
St. Helena and Ascension, 50 pence, 1994.
50th anniversary of the Normandy Landing.
Switzerland~5 francs 1936.jpg
Switzerland, 5 francs, 1936. Confederation Armament Fund.
Image courtesy of World Coin Gallery (http://worldcoingallery.com/).
<k>, that is a cool coin. I've never seen that one.
Yes, not what you would usually expect from peaceful Switzerland.
Well, that is a sweet coin...if you happen to come by an extra let me know :-)
I was quite fortunate to get the D Day toonie coin for face value during my clubs monthly meeting from a fellow member. It's quite a lovely coin. I got the non coloured one, but the colour with the green helmet and the D-Day/ Le jour J in red looks very striking
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100728;image)
Paraguay, 1 guarani, 1978. Soldier.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100746;image)
In 1993 the Paraguayan 1 guaraní coin was minted in brass-plated steel instead of stainless steel.
1993 saw the final issue of the 1 guaraní coin.
Philippines 5 piso 2014.jpg
Philippines 5 piso 2014-.jpg
Philippines, 5 piso, 2014. Leyte Gulf Landing, 1944.
From Wikipedia:
The Battle of Leyte Gulf is considered to have been the largest naval battle of World War II and, by some criteria, possibly the largest naval battle in history, with over 200,000 naval personnel involved. It was fought in waters near the Philippine islands of Leyte, Samar, and Luzon, from 23–26 October 1944, between combined American and Australian forces and the Imperial Japanese Navy. As part of the invasion of Leyte, which aimed to isolate Japan from the countries it had occupied in Southeast Asia which were a vital source of industrial and oil supplies.
This was the first battle in which Japanese aircraft carried out organized kamikaze attacks, and the last naval battle between battleships in history. The Japanese Navy suffered heavy losses and never sailed in comparable force thereafter, stranded for lack of fuel in their bases for the rest of the war, and were therefore unable to affect the successful Allied invasion of Leyte.
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Russia-10-Roubles-2014-Crimea-Reunification-.jpg
Russia-10-Roubles-2014-Crimea-Reunification.jpg
Russia, 10 rubles, 2014. 'Reunification of Crimea.'
Russian propaganda coins.
Ukraine, 10 hryvnia, 2018.jpg
Ukraine, 10 hryvnia, 2018-.jpg
Ukraine, 10 hryvnia, 2018. Defenders of Donetsk Airport.
Russia-5-Roubles-2019-Crimea-Reunification#.jpg
Russia-5-Roubles-2019-Crimea-Reunification-.jpg
Russia, 5 rubles, 2019. 'Reunification of Crimea.'
Russian propaganda coin.
WW1 Centennial 2018.jpg
2018 World War l Centennial silver dollar.
UK 50 pence 1994-gold.jpg
UK, 50 pence, 1994. Gold version of the copper-nickel coin.
50th anniversary of the Normandy landings, France, World War 2.
UK 2 pounds 2016.jpg
UK, 2 pounds, 2016. Commemoration of the Pals Battalions.
UK 50p 2015-Battle of Britain.jpg
UK, 50 pence, 2015. Commemoration of the Battle of Britain, World War 2.
Australia 50 cents 2021.jpg
Australia, 50 cents, 2021. 50th anniversary of the Battle of Long Khanh.
An ADF Australian Centurion tank in the jungles of Vietnam, an Iroquois Helicopter above, and a soldier holding a rifle.
Eritrea obverse 1997.jpg
Common obverse of Eritrean coins of 1997.
Soldiers of the Eritrean People's Liberation Front raising the flag after the Battle of Nafka.
Quote from: <k> on May 17, 2011, 01:38:49 AMGibraltar again.
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5546;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5547;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5548;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5549;image)
(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4944.0;attach=5550;image)
There are seven Royal Marines fifty pence coins in total