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Modern Asian coins, pseudo coins and trade tokens => Indian subcontinent: Mughal, Princely states and colonial (1526-1947) => Mughal central government => Topic started by: umal on June 11, 2021, 08:06:08 AM

Title: Mughal dam, probably Jahangir...Mint??
Post by: umal on June 11, 2021, 08:06:08 AM
Please help in identifying the mints of these dams..
Probably Jahangir dams
Weight 20.20 and 20.35 gm each
Diameter - 19.90 and 20 mm each
Title: Re: Mughal dam, probably Jahangir...Mint??
Post by: Seeker55 on June 11, 2021, 06:11:38 PM
After looking through 86 Jahangir dams in Zeno at

http://search.zeno.ru/index.php?v=0&ae=on&c=Jahangir&t=&k=&d=&wmin=19&wmax=22&smin=&smax=&m=&ymin=&ymax=&y=&u=&a=Dam&e=&f=0&s=0&p=1

I didn't see a match to either of your coins. However, there are some similarities.

The first side of your first coin has some similarities to the second photo of this Jahangir dam from Bairata

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=97226

though overall it isn't a match.

The second side of your second coin has similarities to the first photo of this Jahangir dam from Kotri

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=127174

though overall the coin isn't a match.

Maybe this can help a little.
Title: Re: Mughal dam, probably Jahangir...Mint??
Post by: asm on June 12, 2021, 03:51:38 AM
Have you by any chance mixed up the images. Looks like both right images are of the Dam of  Jahangir from the Mint at Daribah Kotri. The two left images are both retro engraved.

Amit
Title: Re: Mughal dam, probably Jahangir...Mint??
Post by: umal on June 12, 2021, 06:45:48 AM
Thank You @ Seeker and ASM.....
Yes, the images were taken with two coins placed side by side. Hence first and second images show two coins with one side in each images.
so, both coins seems to be from Kotri mint. I came across retrogaingraved kotri coin previously also, on some website. How rare are the retro engraved dams??
Title: Re: Mughal dam, probably Jahangir...Mint??
Post by: asm on June 13, 2021, 03:28:31 AM
Kotri, or rather Dariba Korti is a newly 'discovered' mint. Coins issued from this mint were, till recently, fairly scarce. However, a little bird told me that a large lot has recently come to hand and the prices have dropped.

Retrograde coins are probably not the official products of the mint. These may have been copies made in those times or later since there was no major penalty (that I have heard of - at least in later times) for making copper coins. It was not a prerogative of the rulers (as it was for silver) and may not have carried the death penalty (as in the case of forging Silver coins). However, I am not sure of how it was during the times of the early Mughal rulers.

Amit