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Design and designing => Coin characteristics => Topic started by: <k> on November 30, 2018, 12:02:30 AM

Title: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on November 30, 2018, 12:02:30 AM
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The Guernsey pound coin features a detail from the Guernsey pound note.

Edge inscription: "BAILIWICK OF GUERNSEY".


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A Guernsey pound note, showing the pound sign, as seen on the coin.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on November 30, 2018, 12:11:09 AM
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(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45273.0;attach=89673;image)


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33693.0;attach=110541;image)


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Jamaican coins. See also: National heroes of Jamaica (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,33693.0.html).


Jamaican banknotes.jpg
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on November 30, 2018, 12:15:42 AM
Sierra Leone 500 leones 2004.jpg


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Sierra Leone 500 leones banknote 2003.jpg

Sierra Leone.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on November 30, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
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East Africa and Uganda Protectorates, 50 cents, 1909.

See: British Empire: East Africa and Uganda Protectorates (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,22419.0.html).


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Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Oklahoman on December 27, 2019, 04:20:10 AM
Bunch from Ghana as well.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:21:06 PM
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Paraguay. The obverse of the 1 guaraní coin of 1975 onward depicted a Paraguayan soldier.


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100717;image)

Here you see the soldier on a 1 guaraní banknote.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:21:46 PM
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The obverse of the 5 guaraníes coin depicted a Paraguayan woman.


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Here you see the same design on an old banknote of the 1950s.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:22:27 PM
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The obverse of the 10 guaraníes coin featured Eugenio Alejandrino Garay Argaña (1875-1937).

He was a Paraguayan general who fought in the Chaco War (1932-1935) between Paraguay and Bolivia.


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100723;image)

The design had originally appeared on an old banknote of the 1950s.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:25:05 PM
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The Paraguayan 50 guaraníes coin. The obverse features Marshal José Félix Estigarribia Insaurralde.


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100725;image)

Here we see the old banknote from the 1950s on which the design was based.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:26:27 PM
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In 1990 the 100 guaraníes coin was first issued.

Its obverse depicted José Eduvigis Díaz Vera (1833-1867), a famous Paraguayan general.


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100741;image)

Here is the old banknote on which the coin design is based.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:27:07 PM
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The reverse of the 100 guaraníes coin depicted the ruins of Humaitá Church.




(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100742;image)

Here is the old banknote on which the coin design is based.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:28:49 PM
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Paraguay. In 1997 a new denomination of 500 guaraníes was issued.

The obverse depicted General Bernardino Caballero, President of Paraguay from 1881 to 1886.


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An old 500 guaraníes banknote of had once featured the portrait of General Bernardino Caballero.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:30:43 PM
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Paraguay. The obverse of the 1000 guaraníes coin, first issued in 2006.

It depicts Marshal Francisco Solano López, President of Paraguay from 1862 to 1870.


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100765;image)

Here is his portrait on an old Paraguayan banknote.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 07, 2020, 11:31:50 PM
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The reverse of the 1000 guaraníes coin.

The design depicts the Pantheon of National Heroes.


(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39617.0;attach=100767;image)

Here you see the Pantheon on an old Paraguayan banknote.


See also: Coinage of Paraguay since 1975 (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,48998.0.html).
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Henk on July 08, 2020, 09:51:11 AM
Quote from: <k> on November 30, 2018, 12:20:51 AM
East Africa and Uganda Protectorates, 50 cents, 1909.

The coin is dated 1909 and the banknote is dated 1943. How could this then be a coin design taken from a banknote. Looks like a banknote design taken from a coin.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 08, 2020, 11:36:32 AM
Quote from: Henk on July 08, 2020, 09:51:11 AM
The coin is dated 1909 and the banknote is dated 1943. How could this then be a coin design taken from a banknote. Looks like a banknote design taken from a coin.




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Oh, dear, Henk. Have you never heard of the time machine?  ::)


Yes, you have a point.  :D  I was clearly working too quickly when I posted those particular banknote and coin designs.


How many banknote designs can you identify that were taken from coins? It would be worth a topic.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Figleaf on July 08, 2020, 11:48:55 AM
I was wondering about the same thing and too lazy to look up who had it first. It raises another question, though. Might not these symbols that occur on coins and banknotes have started their life outside *shudder* coins and banknotes? That lion taking a walk in front of Mount Kilimanjaro, for instance, might have been used by the Imperial East India Company.

Perhaps the problem is in the title of the thread. "Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer"?

Peter
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 08, 2020, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: Figleaf on July 08, 2020, 11:48:55 AM
Might not these symbols that occur on coins and banknotes have started their life outside *shudder* coins and banknotes? That lion taking a walk in front of Mount Kilimanjaro, for instance, might have been used by the Imperial East India Company.

Lions are very vain animals, and for centuries they had longed to be considered good enough to appear on a banknote. It was Charles Darwin who discovered that they were deliberately evolving in that direction. And as we see, ultimately they did achieve their aim.  ;)

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Perhaps the problem is in the title of the thread. "Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer"?

::)  But that is already the title of the thread. Pay attention in class!  >:(
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Figleaf on July 08, 2020, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: <k> on July 08, 2020, 12:09:00 PM
::)  But that is already the title of the thread. Pay attention in class!  >:(

Impossible with that bleeping and blinking time machine sitting behind you. You should never have been allowed to play with it.

Peter
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 21, 2020, 07:11:43 PM
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A panel on a statue of Queen Victoria in Wellington, New Zealand, showing the signing of the Waitangi treaty.




(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9472.0;attach=73969;image)

James Berry's initial idea for the Waitangi crown, 1935.




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New Zealand, 10 shillings, 1940 to 1967.




(http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=41608.0;attach=97290;image)

New Zealand's 1990 $1 design by Horst Hahne also depicted the same scene.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2020, 09:55:21 AM
Classic example: UK Pound note and Pound coin (photos copied from BoE Museum and Royal Mint)
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 22, 2020, 11:06:13 AM
Was that an unadopted pound note design?
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Henk on July 22, 2020, 01:55:25 PM
No, it was issued and used before and during the 2nd World War
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 22, 2020, 02:38:03 PM
I see. I couldn't find it on numista.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Oklahoman on July 22, 2020, 09:05:36 PM
Three notes with the pound design in the above post are on Numista:

P# 363  (1928 to 1948)
P# 367  (1940 to 1948)
P# 369  (1948 to 1960)

Since issue was of the Bank of England, you will not find them Under UK, you would find them under England.
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on July 22, 2020, 11:07:01 PM
Thank you. I know of that anomaly (Bank of England notes, legal tender in England and Wales only!) but in my haste didn't think about it.  :-[  So painful, not knowing whether to look for United Kingdom or Great Britain in the first place.  :(
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: Henk on July 23, 2020, 08:35:54 PM
Another example of identical designs is when a coin is pictured on a (bank)note. Actually this is quite an interesting, and extensive, collecting area. One reason is when because of lack of coins in eg emergencies like wars notes are issued with a picture of a coin on it to indicate their equal value. An example is this Fiji 1942 1 penny note. The coin depicted was not actually issued. The actual 1942 pennies were made in brass instead of the regular copper-nickel and have an S mintmark.This mintmark is missing on the coin depicted on the note.

A second reasen for depicting a coin is as an ornament. The example shown is a Saudi Arabian 1379 (1984) 1 Riyal note depicting a 7th
century gold dinar at left
Title: Re: Designs that were used on coins and banknotes from the same issuer
Post by: <k> on November 27, 2020, 02:42:00 AM
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British Caribbean Territories - Eastern Group, 50 cents, 1955.




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British Caribbean Territories - Eastern Group, $5, 1959.


See: Coins of the British Caribbean Territories - Eastern Group (http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,42172.0.html).