Readers Digest advertising tokens

[malj1]

Another of these 1752 TU DOMINE SPES MEA FRANC. is on eBay. I advised the seller and his reply... 'oh ok' ...but nothing has changed as yet. 

Here.

[redwine]

You've done what you can do and I salute you with,
another RD token 

22mm
4.56g
Medal aligned
Consimilar

[redwine]

Apparently there are two other variants for the infamous ducat see here

[malj1]

I watched one being sold yesterday, I had told the seller it was a reproduction and he replied that someone else had advised him too but he ignored us both and sold it for $15.

From your link I see they also come in: Brass plated Iron; Brass; Nickel plated Iron.

[redwine]

'What can I say' to quote Boz Scaggs 
I've given up advising dodgy sellers 
But, good of you to try!   

And now having looked through my 117 'ducat' pieces (they must be worth a fortune on ebay), I can see that more work is needed.....................

With date, without dots   101
With date, with dots   11
Without date, with dots   4
Without date, without dots   1

Perhaps a WOD,WOD was being advertised on ebay?

I think there are a few more variations,  metal and finish wise.  I shall post the possible variants when I get some computer time. 

[redwine]

Austrian Ducat Imitation Type 1: Readers Digest   T1RD
Magnetic
Medal aligned
Weight: 2.47g
Diameter: 20mm
Reverse: No date and no dots

Obverse: FRANC.D.G.R.I.S. A.GER.IER.REX.
Reverse: TU DOMINE SPES MEA / C A (at bottom of coat of arms)

[redwine]

Austrian Ducat Imitation Type 2: Readers Digest  T2RD
Magnetic
Coin aligned
Weight: 2.5g
Diameter: 20mm
Reverse: No date but has dots

Obverse: FRANC.D.G.R.I.S. A.GER.IER.REX. / ?? (at base of bust)
Reverse: TU DOMINE ?? SPES MEA .   . / C A (at bottom of coat of arms)

[redwine]

Type 3 & 4, it all gets a bit tricky.
I had a quick look through the type 3's (With date, with dots) and I have 3 definite variants in the 11 I have.
As for type 4 (With date, without dots), the only thing I know for sure is, all 100 are not magnetic.

[redwine]

Type 4's 

Austrian Ducat Imitation Type 4: Readers Digest  T4RD
Non Magnetic
Medal aligned
Weight: 2.34g (sample size 20)
Diameter: 20mm
Reverse: Date with no dots

Obverse: FRANC.D.G.R.I.S. A.GER.IER.REX.
Reverse: TU•DOMINE•SPES MEA 1752 / C A (at bottom of coat of arms)

[malj1]

I must remember this link for the next person who advertises a rare Austrian Ducat. 

[redwine]

Austrian Ducat Imitation Type 3: Readers Digest  T3RD
Magnetic? (only one of 13 - bottom left)
Medal aligned
Weight: 2.4g (sample size 13)
Diameter: 20mm
Reverse: Date with dots

Obverse: FRANC.D.G.R.I.S. A.GER.IER.REX.
Reverse: TU DOMINE SPES MEA .1752. / C A (at bottom of coat of arms)

Obverse (beneath bust) & Reverse (after DOMINE) on piece at bottom right with addition of unknown mark
Bottom left is magnetic and uses large dots on reverse

[redwine]

Spotted this piece on ebay 
And it actually says Reader's Digest! 

[malj1]

Here it is enlarged and enhanced and almost legible.

Certainly useful to know.

[Figleaf]

Imitation of a nice specimen of an 8 reales 1626-1664 Sevilla in the name of Philip IV of Spain, probably for the US market, where any Spanish coin is immediately called a pirate's coin.

In fact, the heyday of the Caribbean pirates was a century later and they would have been highly unlikely to have handled coins struck in Sevilla: Sevilla was at the receiving end of silver from Spain's colonies. Its input was badly struck colonial silver (e.g. Mexico), its output less badly struck Spanish coins. The 8 reales would - until 1648 - typically be shipped North, e.g. across the Dolomites to Augsburg and Antwerp to pay for the Spanish armies in Flanders and Brabant.

Peter

[redwine]

Having had another look I think I can see 'Offert par selection du RD'.
So probably French.  I shall definitely look out for a reasonably priced one of these