Author Topic: Morocco falus, Sidi Mohammed IV, contemporary fake? of Tetuan, AH XX28, Km 95.9  (Read 3462 times)

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Offline Rangnath

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This one is interesting, assuming that the standard catalog is accurate. 
It weighs 2.9 grams and is 20mm (22 mm if I include the longest edge) across.
I figure that the date is 128X and the mint is Tetuan.
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Re: Morocco falus 128X
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 11:24:26 PM »
Wow, that was strange. I was sure that I had uploaded it. Oh well,
richie

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Re: Morocco falus 128X
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 12:27:44 AM »
I agree that this is Tetuan. Drop a line from the beginning of the first letter to the date, and you will see that the date is YX28. Y can only be 1 and X can only be 2, because the type was first struck in 1211. If this is correct, the coin is KM 95.9. If you found it together with the falus you posted here, my identification of both coins is more likely to be correct.

Peter
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Re: Morocco falus 128X
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 01:13:35 AM »
You're good at this Figleaf!
I agree with your analysis of the coin in this thread. It makes sense to call it XX28 and therefore Km 95.9. I will re-name the thread accordingly.
I must admit, I am quite happy with the designation. 
As for the other coin,
stay tune for another photo. 
richie

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Re: Morocco falus, Sidi Mohammed IV, Mint Tetuan, AH XX28, Km 95.9
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 02:06:25 AM »
The gentleman at zeno using " Corpus des Monnaies Alawites " by Daniel Eustache , Bank of Morocco , Rabat 1984, said that his is most likely a contemporary fake of corpus 1212 and its mint of Tetuan.  The above appears to be another book I need to acquire. Pardon my French, but I have none! MerXe!
 
richie

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This seems to be 1280 reading not Tetouan, but Hawz (de Tetouan), Eustache # 1212. This Fals is unknown to Benziane with this mintmark.

Khalid Benziane: Catalogue des Monnaies du Maroc, 2005.

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I apologize for asking:
1. you feel that this coin is NOT a contemporary fake?
2. You feel that the date is x28x? or even x280?
 
3. I agree with you that the date appears to be x280 or x28x.  I can not locate an example of a coin with a mint name of Hawz.  Is the full name in Arabic "Hawz of Tetuan"? And on this coin, only "Tetuan" is found?

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I'm not sure about a fake.
I'm 99% sure this being 1280.
Hawz is written on this coin. I don't know the exact meaning of Hawz, but it belongs to Teouan, too. On other coins the mint is written Tetouan, but not here.