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Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« on: November 23, 2020, 03:11:18 PM »
8,35g / 20-21mm
On this one, the animal is easier to identify than the mint !
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 01:33:06 PM by saro »
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 07:54:03 AM »
Dear Saro, the mint looks like " Erivan ايروان ".

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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 11:43:53 AM »
Thank you Maythem,
That could have been Erivan due to the " یر " (written like : ین  !), in fact it is " یز " / "Yazd یزد "  : it is really a bad habit from engravers to omit the points on letters !
some other Yazd coppers show this kind of script; this one seems unpublished ?
at bottom, there is a visible part of the epithet of the city : "dar al-Ibadeh ذار العیباده "  , there is no date
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 12:45:59 PM »
Thank you Saro, yes I can see that now. The mint reads " dar al-‘Ibada Yazd  دار العباده یزد ".

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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2020, 02:52:55 PM »
Dear Maythem, Did you notice a word at 5 o'clock ? unfortunately it is cut... I wonder if that couldn't be the formula "   العزة لله / God bless you",  as found at top of a gold toman of Fath 'Ali (dated 1214 AH)?

I've never seen it on a copper coin...
If it is, that would allow to date this coin at time of Fath 'Ali
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2020, 03:31:01 PM »
a sharper picture of this part of the coin
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2020, 09:06:34 AM »
Thank you Saro for showing that, I have not seen it on Fath 'Ali coins; the translation of " العزه لله Glory be to Allah ".

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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2020, 01:37:35 PM »
I have not seen it on Fath 'Ali coins; the translation of " العزه لله Glory be to Allah ".
This uncommon formula is present only (I think) on some scarce tomans of Fath 'Ali and only from Yazd mint, they are  dated 1213 & 1214 AH.
(The full legend on these is "dar al-Ibadeh Yazd , al-'azeh Allah")
Of course, I am not at all sure of my transcription but as it is the same mint place, the gold coin could well have been a source of inspiration for this modest copper coin.  ?
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 03:10:57 PM »
Thank you Saro, your transcription is correct ( الْعِزَّةَ لِلَّهِ / Al-izzata Lillah / Glory belongs to Allah) which comes from the Quran Surah An-Nisa ( النساء /Women ) verse 139.

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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2020, 08:44:26 PM »
 :thumbsup: :coinsilver: :thumbsup:
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2020, 10:07:20 AM »
Thanks Maythem,  a precious help indeed !
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Re: Civic copper wirh a running hare / dar al-Ibadeh Yazd
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2020, 10:39:38 AM »
Thank you Peter and Saro.

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