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Offline andyg

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Very small civic copper / Qom ?
« on: April 21, 2020, 10:19:15 PM »
This is about the smallest civic copper I've seen,  I've not found anything similar.
Just 3.2g

Is there such a thing as a quarter civic copper I wonder :)
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Re: Very small civic copper
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2020, 12:17:55 PM »
Quote from: andyg linif I'm wrong  :Dk=topic=48251.msg301671#msg301671 date=1587500355
I've not found anything similar.

Me neither , dear Andyg...
I think that the left picture could be read as : "zarb Qom / ضرب  قم" with an elongated  "mim" as seen on some civic coppers of this city.
The other face is uncertain, my guess is that could fit with "Imam Daulat /  یمان دولت ", a tentative only...

From some catalogued coins of Qom, the weights can be distributed like that :
 - 18,5g (18,1- 18,8g / 7 coins)
-  9g(7,9 - 9,7 / 5 coins)) 
-  5,2g  (a single coin)
The coins seems to be never dated and could be well :1 falus (10 dinars ?) / 1/2 falus (5 dinars ?) and 1/4 (2,5 dinars ?)
It appears that the small weights are less common, and your coin could be likely a quarter as you suggest.
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Re: Very small civic copper
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2020, 10:45:42 PM »
Thanks very much Saro,  Usually with some digging I eventually work out what the coin is,  but this is one where I have to defer to the experts :)

What age do you think it might be?  I'd go for 19th cent.
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Re: Very small civic copper
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2020, 08:36:41 AM »
What age do you think it might be?  I'd go for 19th cent.

Yes, for me too, this coin is likely a 19th c. issue; the low weight may be an indication of this.
The ID is however to confirm, I am relatively confident for the mint name but the reading of the reverse is a tentative which is to be confirmed, this legend is not yet reported and it's always a risk to be wrong...
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