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Guernsey Decimal Variations

Started by Galapagos, October 31, 2009, 09:36:14 PM

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Galapagos

Guernsey sketch-1.jpg


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Here are some variations on the first Guernsey decimal set, by its designer, Paul Vincze.

The left-hand design of the halfpenny was the one that was adopted.

Galapagos

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Guernsey sketch-3.jpg


Guernsey sketch-4.jpg

More images. The left-hand design on the first image was adopted for the actual one penny design.


See also:

1] Guernsey square 10 shillings, plus alternative design

2] Milestones in the decimal coinage of Guernsey

chrisild

The 50p design is interesting. Do you know whether it was supposed to be "permanent"? I would expect to see "1066" on a 1966 commem but not on a later circulation coin ...

Christian

Figleaf

Great stuff. I agree with the final choice, but would have moved the date to the left, aligning with the top of the bird's wings, for a better use of the open space below the bird.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Galapagos

Quote from: chrisild on October 31, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
The 50p design is interesting. Do you know whether it was supposed to be "permanent"? I would expect to see "1066" on a 1966 commem but not on a later circulation coin ...

Christian

The documents didn't say anything about this, but if it had been adopted, I think it would have been intended to be permanent. If you consider that the Queen's title in relation to the Channel Islands is "Duke of Normandy" (yes, Duke - never Duchess), then I think you will understand. It symbolises the relationship of Guernsey to the Crown.

chrisild

Quote from: Ice Torch on November 01, 2009, 01:04:22 AM
The documents didn't say anything about this, but if it had been adopted, I think it would have been intended to be permanent. If you consider that the Queen's title in relation to the Channel Islands is "Duke of Normandy" (yes, Duke - never Duchess), then I think you will understand. It symbolises the relationship of Guernsey to the Crown.

In that case (permanent, not commem) I would have separated the 1066 and the actual date. Maybe a circle/oval that goes around the crown and that year. The half penny looks a little as if, when it came to the design, somebody had decided "we're going to phase this out eventually anyway, so why bother?" ;)

Christian

Galapagos

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Given that the halfpenny was tiny at only 17mm in diameter, it would hardly have been worth giving it a proper pictorial design.

The current Guernsey and UK 5p coins are now the smallest at 18mm in diameter.


Yes, the "1066" and "1969" on the proposed 50p are too close together.

They should have been at opposite ends of the design.

The issued design, which depicted the Ducal Cap, showed only the contemporaneous year.

translateltd

Quote from: Ice Torch on November 01, 2009, 01:04:22 AM
If you consider that the Queen's title in relation to the Channel Islands is "Duke of Normandy" (yes, Duke - never Duchess),

I believe that, likewise, she is also Lord of Man (not Lady of Lady).


Galapagos

Quote from: translateltd on November 01, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
I believe that, likewise, she is also Lord of Man (not Lady of Lady).

Lord of Mann. It's a strange usage until you get used to it. You can refer to either "the Isle of Man", or just "Mann", with a double "n" - but never "the Isle of Mann".

translateltd

Quote from: Ice Torch on November 01, 2009, 07:03:20 PM
Lord of Mann. It's a strange usage until you get used to it. You can refer to either "the Isle of Man", or just "Mann", with a double "n" - but never "the Isle of Mann".

OK, not Lady of Ladyy, then.

I like the Manx form of "Isle of Man", Ellan Vannin - the V presumably being one of those first-letter inflections that the Celtic languages are so fond of. Sounds like a girl's name, too (perhaps a good one for the Lady of Ladyy to use?)