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Offline Figleaf

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #75 on: January 05, 2019, 02:57:35 PM »
I suspect that in such a large, bureaucratic organisation, there are several tribes. One of these is probably the old guard: meticulous and measured. Another may well be the marketing monkeys: fashionable, fast, faulty. I would expect that these tribes have given up on each other and do not communicate.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2019, 09:35:03 PM »
Well said Alan71.
I notice that 50 pence appears in the obverse legend of the Britannia coin. Would I be correct in saying that this differs from the 2009 anniversary version?
Yes.  The 2009 version used the then-standard obverse inscription.  That was before the Facebook generation of collectors though, so the Mint could be sure that buyers would know that “50 New Pence” is equal to “50 Pence”.

After I posted here, I noticed another error in the Royal Mint’s Facebook post.  The illustration of the coin that they used was a mule of the “New Pence” inscription but with the substantially altered Britannia design of 1982-2008.  So someone at the Mint had gone to the trouble of creating this image and was obviously completely oblivious to the fact that there were two Britannia designs.  Thankfully the coins themselves depict the correct version.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2019, 10:07:05 PM »


The “50” figure is from the 1982 version as well.  The position of “Pence” is as the 1982 version, so they’ve literally just swapped “Fifty” for “New” to create this.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2019, 10:20:29 PM »
There was another Royal Mint mistake related to this coin. In the app in which you can have a closer look at the coin, the wrong obverse was used. The mistake has now been corrected. We can conclude it is a mess there and I have no hopes whatsoever of things getting any better under this new CEO.



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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2019, 11:16:47 PM »
The wrong Britannia also extends to the packaging for the coin itself.



There should be a choice of packaging... the alternative one being “An eBay seller struck this 50p coin and then sold it to me at a profit”.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2019, 09:57:34 AM »

50 pence 1969.




50 pence 1982 (proof FDC version).



Actual examples of the original two versions of the 50 pence coin.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2019, 12:17:47 AM »
Alongside the packaging scan of the 50p Britannia from the Royal Mint Experience, the RM tweeted in Jan 1:
"To celebrate the leap into 2019, visitors can now Strike their own Britannia 50 pence coin.
The last time this design appeared in circulation was 1997."
How absolutely crass!

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2019, 08:28:33 AM »
Alongside the packaging scan of the 50p Britannia from the Royal Mint Experience, the RM tweeted in Jan 1:
"To celebrate the leap into 2019, visitors can now Strike their own Britannia 50 pence coin.
The last time this design appeared in circulation was 1997."
How absolutely crass!
Peter’s comment I think sums it up.  The old guard that would have the correct info probably aren’t respected, and therefore not asked.  So the young go-getters with little interest in coins but plenty in marketing are free to make such errors as most of the Facebook generation either won’t notice or won’t care.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2019, 07:38:15 PM »
I see that the Royal Mint are marketing a special anniversary set comprising an original 1969 50p piece in a minimum of VF condition together with a 2019 Matthew Dent 50p – only available to collect as part of a set and not as an individual coin. All for £45, a figure coincident with free p&p!
What a pricing policy!!!
Interesting, though, the statement that the 2019 50p definitive will not be circulated.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2019, 08:56:48 PM »
Yes, I saw that.  And it is, of course, a complete rip-off.  A 1969 50p in Uncirculated condition (therefore much better than very fine) is only £9.69 (with free postage) as a buy-it-now on eBay.  The 2019 coin is available in the definitive set of 8 coins for £30 or the complete set (with commemoratives) for £55.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2019, 12:15:10 PM »
Looks like the RM have had a rethink on the 2-coin 50p anniversary set. Now priced at £30 + p&p. Still too expensive.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #86 on: January 12, 2019, 12:24:32 PM »
They said the previous price was a mistake in their system  :D For the people who would like to get the coins in the set, the Westminster Collection is now selling them in different packaging, at a better price.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2019, 09:20:40 AM »
The sets of 2019-dated reissued 50p coins were available from the Westminster Collection which sold out of its stock within 25 minutes. They will also be available from the Royal Mint at 9am GMT.

There are 2 sets available each containing the same 5 coins (Kew Gardens, Four Minute Mile, Girlguiding, Britannia and Scouting). They are available in Copper-Nickel proof (99 pounds) and silver proof (225 pounds).

The set copper-nickel proof is limited to 3,500 sets and the one in silver proof is limited to  1,969 sets.

The obverse on the copper-nickel and gold coins includes the denomination while it doesn't on the silver proof coins.
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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2019, 12:39:07 PM »
Have a look at ebay! Blatant profiteering on the 2019-dated reissued 50p coin set.

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Re: UK Commemorative coins for 2019
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2019, 12:54:51 PM »
Several hundred silver proof sets containing the 5 reissued 50p's are now available only if you call the Royal Mint.