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Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint,  Tye 199
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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 01:24:38 PM »
Nice specimen.
This is one of the types where Yildiz names his overlord Mu'izz-ud-din Muhammd bin Sam and uses the title "abdu al-Malik": "the Slave-King" for himself.

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 11:39:43 AM »
Could Abd el Malik not be interpreted as "slave of the king" also? Leaving aside if the confusion was meant as a careful challenge or a clumsy compliment.

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 06:04:54 PM »
Yes, with the way it seems written here it might be interpreted in this way. However. after al-Malik comes "al-mu’azzam / Taj-ud-dunya wa al-d / in Yildiz". So it is likely that Yildiz refers to himself here. In addition "al-malik al-mu'azzam" is a lower rank title than the "al-Sultan al-a'zam" of the Ghorid overlord. So which other subordinate king could Yildiz otherwise be referring to ?
More evidence comes from the Tye#200 bull jital types where the legend is : “Mu’izz ud-duniya / wa al-din / ‘Abduh / Yildiz”. So here Yildiz unmistakebly refers first to his overlord Mu'izz, and then to himself as "the slave Yildiz".


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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2020, 07:32:37 PM »
My coin

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 09:43:31 AM »
Nice, clear specimen, Desibot. A restrained beauty that gives it dignity, increased by the measured calligraphy. You may want to work on the lighting of the photo. The metal should be a shade of brown, but it looks whitish: too much light. Try indirect sunlight instead.

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2020, 10:30:54 AM »
Hi figleaf I have been trying various methods
Only way I can get a clear shot is holding it and
At a angle the brightness  is due to 100w light bulb
I have ordered a mini studio light box hope that works.

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 11:03:35 AM »
For catalog photos your photography may not work Desibot. But you usually manage quite well to get all important details clearly on your pictures !

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 11:35:11 AM »
Thanks Thcoins I want to achieve photos like captain birdseye
Looks perfect and well presented   :o

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 11:39:42 AM »
Try this, Desibot. Take a high glass (lemonade glass is perfect), your camera/phone (I will assume it is a telephone) and the coin outside in the late evening, when shadows are long (early morning will works also.) Experiment with sunny and shady spots, trusting what the phone shows you the picture will look like.

On the selected spot, put the glass upside down. This is your camera stand. Put the coin on the same support the glass is on, near the glass and the phone on top of the glass. Turn the coin around until you are happy with how the detail comes out (take your time, this is an important phase). Now, enlarge the picture so that it fits the screen of the phone. CLICK!

Hint: starting out with high resolution and scaling the picture down with software works better than starting with low resolution. Also, there is no danger that you forget to change the camera settings back to normal after taking coin pictures.

Peter
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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2020, 04:16:18 PM »
Thanks figleaf
I did buy a stand but it kept shadowing the coin in close range
 I will try this method out  :)

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Re: Ghorids of Ghazna, Taj Al-Din Yildiz, Billon Jital, Ghazna mint
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2020, 04:52:15 PM »
Keeping along with a topic same coin as Thcoin  :perfect: