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Offline maudry

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Very nice this one  :)
Size: 22X24mm
Weight: 9.00gr
« Last Edit: April 26, 2017, 09:18:35 PM by maudry »

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Re: Square civic copper with two fishes
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 10:05:33 AM »
This one is Afghanistan, Qandahar mint and similar to mine here

Yours also appears to be made of thin copper folded over and flattened
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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 09:23:25 PM »
Thank you.
Yes this one is also laminated and very similar to yours.  :)

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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 11:52:26 PM »
I just saw this one on vcoins:
Can I assume that mine and Vic's coin are also dated AH1182?

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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 10:21:45 AM »
I just saw this one on vcoins:
Can I assume that mine and Vic's coin are also dated AH1182?


There is no date on that coin, the  ref they give  in Valentine has no date either so where they conjured it up from I'm not sure
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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 10:07:56 PM »

...where they conjured it up from I'm not sure
That's also what I was wondering about.

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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2018, 09:51:46 PM »
I learned today from Numista that these folded coins were in fact siege money.
They have been made from melted down cooking pots and pans according to that page.

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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 03:03:30 PM »
I learned today from Numista that these folded coins were in fact siege money.
They have been made from melted down cooking pots and pans according to that page.


It could be  but somehow l doubt it, l have laminated copper coins from  Bahawalpur, Kashmir, Bela and other states so it's not so unusual
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Re: Afghanistan: Square civic copper with two fishes, Qandahar mint
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 02:18:13 PM »
I am of the same opinion as Vic, this method of making coins has been used by various workshops mainly in Middle East and Central Asia and I don’t think that these coins could be siege money but it's rather a low cost  technique of production.
In my opinion, this method made it possible to reuse copper from various sources (why not cooking pots and pans ?...) at a lower cost without having to melt it to make new blanks.
The copper foils are cut and folded 2 or 3 times depending on the thickness and the wanted weight, then heated (at a temperature very lower than the melting point) and hot struck, which results in a more or less perfect welding of the metal sheets.
This technique has been known for a long time and is today called "pressure welding".
We can notice that if the copper sheets are often visible, it would be impossible to separate them because they are welded together.

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