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Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« on: December 11, 2016, 09:42:27 PM »
Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2016, 11:13:40 AM »
I read that this is supposed to represent the hand of Abbas ?
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 05:00:01 PM »
I read that this is supposed to represent the hand of Abbas ?
I have also seen that in the title of a coin for sale, without any explanation or reference and it's the 1st time I see that...
In addition, the design of the hand on this coin looks like a calligraphic arrangement of something like "al-jalal" (the Glory)  ? I am not sure ???
This is not seen on your coin so that on two of mine which show a "classical" design and may be it is just a coincidence ???

An interesting question ...
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2016, 05:24:33 PM »
Interesting it is for sure, here is another one from the same lot, this one is somewhat overstruck however
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2016, 11:25:51 PM »
Vic, your coin with a 90° anticlockwise shows "Qandahar" (stylised...)
I'll post the coin of which I spoke soon.
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2016, 11:35:18 PM »
The 'Qandahar' is from the overtype(?) which is Valentine 91, with a peacock left in the loop of Qandahar, see below.

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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2016, 11:38:33 PM »
Vic, your coin with a 90° anticlockwise shows "Qandahar" (stylised...)
I'll post the coin of which I spoke soon.


I think there are traces of Qandahar on the reverse as well
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2016, 11:39:47 PM »
The 'Qandahar' is from the overtype(?) which is Valentine 91, with a peacock left in the loop of Qandahar, see below.

Alan

Yes, I can see the similarity,  hard to find any of these without evidence of overstrikes
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2016, 03:39:09 PM »
Calligraphic hand  ??? (reverse : "falus Qandahar")
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2016, 03:58:15 PM »
Lucky charm "Hand of 'Abbas" ( ibn Imam 'Ali) with Hussein, Hassan, Mhd, Allah on the fingers and in center : " 'Abbas ghazi 'alamdar "
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Re: Afghanistan Civic Copper,Qandahar, open hand type
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2016, 11:34:48 PM »
Lucky charm "Hand of 'Abbas" ( ibn Imam 'Ali) with Hussein, Hassan, Mhd, Allah on the fingers and in center : " 'Abbas ghazi 'alamdar "

I guess it's almost certain that it's the hand of Abbas represented on the coins as well
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