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Offline capnbirdseye

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Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« on: December 19, 2014, 05:29:32 PM »
I can't find one quite like this in Valentine, Obv: animal, rev: a double ended sword,  13.63g
more likely Afghanistan
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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 06:15:43 PM »
With the combination, lion and sword, and no sun, i would agree on probably Afghanistan. But no immediate recognition beyond that i am sorry.

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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 11:39:50 AM »
This falus with the double blade sword "Zulfiqar" is from Herat.
not very scarce when worn, as it is often found, but not so easy to find whith a legible legend.
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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 11:45:26 AM »
Afghanistan for sure, Zulfiqar is the legendary sword of 'Ali. :o
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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 01:19:24 PM »
Here few other ones; some coins are needed to have an idea of the full legend which appears, from the 100 coins I have had in hand many years ago, to be : "zarb Herat falus dar al-sultanat" around the sword.
a good fraction of it is seen on the 3rd coin (up &  from left)
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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2014, 02:09:56 PM »
Afghanistan for sure, Zulfiqar is the legendary sword of 'Ali. :o
Yes, this sword given to Ali by Muhammad is well a shiite symbol, but don't forget that the city of Herat was taken by Safavids of Iran before it fell in Hotaki's hands (afghans), swept themselves by the shiite Afsharids (Nadir) and then came back to afghans Durrani..
These coins could have been struck during last Safavids time (see Valentine n°1 p.182)
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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2014, 02:39:35 PM »
Interesting lot saro, some of the Lions are very crudely engraved although skilled engravers must have been around engaged in other crafts at that time
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Re: Falus of Afghanistan or Iran?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2014, 03:14:22 PM »
Yes, and so crudely engraved that I think that the coin 1 of Valentine which shows an animal depicted as a "horse" could be in fact a lion? (a horse with a curious long tail on its back..) and that  coins shown here could be of this same type...
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