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Offline lainecrist

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Dirhem unidentified
« on: October 02, 2014, 10:54:28 AM »
Dirhem unidentified
Silver, 2,56 g / 28 mm
Please help if you know the mint and year
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Re: Dirhem unidentified
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 08:07:00 PM »
Looks like the general design of a Umayyad Dirhem.
The mintname should be in the edge text in the lower left quadrant of the side in your upper picture. However, this coin is fairly crudely struck. I can not decipher the characters from you picture reliably, nor do i recognize the mint immediately from the shape.
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Re: Dirhem unidentified
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2014, 08:46:45 PM »
Thank you for your attention.

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Re: Dirhem unidentified
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2014, 10:57:45 PM »
The style is typically Spanish Umayyad.

Mint is al-Andalus (Cordoba), date 207 H, Abd al-Rahman II.

A very good site for the Spanish coins is http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/ but unfortunately their example http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/abdalrahmanII/207.jpg is cracked and clipped: yours is much nicer, well struck for a coin of this period.

Best wishes

Alan

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Re: Dirhem unidentified
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2014, 06:53:57 PM »
I suppose you read the text. While it looks pretty correct, I am left with a worry. The type is listed and illustrated in Cayón as shown (scan lightened to show more picture detail). As you can see, Cayón's illustration shows a circular decoration around the edge, while Lainecrist's coin has an annulet decoration. Is the date 207 on the coin?

Peter
« Last Edit: October 03, 2014, 07:44:25 PM by Figleaf »
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Re: Dirhem unidentified
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2014, 11:39:16 PM »
Peter, the one you illustrate from Cayon is dated 102-120 H (issued by the Umayyad governors, see http://andalustonegawa.50g.com/gov_postreform_coinage.htm) whilst lainecrist's coin is definitely a century later, of Abd al-Rahman II, see annotated photo below.

Best wishes

Alan

[edit: Sorry, I can't seem to get a crisp caption on the image, the original seems to be too compressed. The captions read from left to right, "al-Andalus/ year/ and seven/ two hundred"]
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Re: Dirhem unidentified
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2014, 04:32:49 PM »
Thank you for your attention.