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Offline frech001

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Abbasid falus/fils, Hamadan, 154 AH (771 AD)
« on: January 07, 2014, 03:47:13 AM »
This is a hammered coin with what appears to be Arabic numerals.  I have no idea what country it might be from.  It is 18.5 mm in diameter and weighs 2.4 grams, though it appears quite worn.  I would appreciate any help identifying this coin.

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Al
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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 10:30:35 AM »
Looks most like an Abbasid falus.
The lower picture is upside down. What you probably see as numbers is the beginning of the Kalima (There's no God but God..) in Kufic (medieval Arabic)

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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 12:07:37 PM »
For the sake of comparison, have a look at the coin labelled Lowick 970 on this page.

Peter
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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2014, 01:26:11 PM »
 ??? Have you seen that this label is the same for more than 10 different coins on this site ?

(But i agree these are nice for comparison  :) )

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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2014, 02:02:15 PM »
Fourteen, but there is no way to distinguish them and they look like the same type with minor die differences only. Some are high grade, all pictures can be enlarged. I am not at all sure this coin is also Basra, but I lack the knowledge of Arabic to find out. Meanwhile, the standard religious texts deciphered and translated should be helpful.

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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 02:43:03 AM »
This files struck Hamzan in year of 154 AH

سجل بهامش ظهر هذا الفلس ..... بسم الله ضرب هذا الفلس بهمذان سنة أربع وخمسين ومئة.

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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 09:20:00 AM »
Thanks for your valuable addition. It is good to have a definite attribution with this.
And very welcome to the forum !

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Re: Third coin needing identification
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 09:33:13 AM »
TH has been faster, but I agree. You and your knowledge are very welcome here.

This confirms that the coin is an Abassid falus. Where is Hamzan? Is it perhaps this place?

Peter
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Re: Abbasid falus/fils, Hamzan, 154 AH
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 03:01:40 PM »
Thanks

 Yes, this is the place and Hamedan City in Iran

همذان أو همدان من أقدم المدن الإسلامية ، فتحها المسلمون وكانت تحت سيطرة الفرس سنة 24هـ بقيادة المغيرة بن شعبة والذي فتحها جرير بن عبد الله البجلي بأمر من المغيرة بن شعبة عامل عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه على الكوفة وكان ذلك سنة 23هـ

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Re: Abbasid falus/fils, Hamadan, 154 AH (771 AD)
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 10:16:23 PM »
Thank you, Mahmoud!

Peter
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