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Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« on: December 09, 2013, 10:46:17 AM »
I'm getting confused, please help ;)
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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 01:52:57 PM »
Egypt  Quirsh KM#292

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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 02:18:00 PM »
Many thanks bagerap  ;D

Egypt, 1903 AD., Ottoman empire, Sultan Abdul Hamid II, Heaton mint, 1 Qirsh

I got stuck in Turkey  ::)

But I see a W or maybe an A not an H?
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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 02:25:03 PM »
Got it now, Emil Weigand, Berlin Mint  8)
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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 02:42:18 PM »
1293/17 W  ;D
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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 04:15:51 PM »
I got stuck in Turkey  ::)
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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 04:36:07 PM »
1293/10, rather? For Ottoman coins, the key is the mint, as KM does not recognise the empire :) It will split up coins according to mint into modern states. Silly and inconsistent, but there you are and some local rulers indeed were pretty independent towards the end of the empire.

Meanwhile, Egyptian coin are easy to recognise by the mint name مصر. Mnemonic: turn it 90° against the clock and you'll see a belly dancer ;) Another one useful to remember is القسطنطينية, Istambul/Constantinople. Too long to remember, but in the centre are two of the minarets of Aya Sophia طنط ;)

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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 05:23:23 PM »
Many thanks Peter  8)
I was totally confused and perhaps I still am  ::)
I've found another stash of qirsh - I may be gone some time....................

Haven't started the turkey yet Bagerap, but I might well be a belly dancer soon.  My other half has improved immensely in the kitchen.  She's almost as good as me  :o
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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 05:58:46 PM »
For Ottoman coins, the key is the mint, as KM does not recognise the empire :) It will split up coins according to mint into modern states. Silly and inconsistent, but there you are and some local rulers indeed were pretty independent towards the end of the empire.

I guess it is known in between, I am not the greatest fan of KM, but this time I go with them, as there were different coin standards and denominations in Egypt most of the time. This would be much more confusing in an all-in-one section of the Ottoman Empire.

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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 06:38:48 PM »
There were different standards in the German empire also, yet KM puts them all under German states. Except Austria. But with some bits and pieces that are now in Poland or France. :P

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Re: Egyptian qirsh, 1293 / 1903 AD
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 06:47:20 PM »
By the way, the value is beneath the toughra, an Arabic 1 sitting on top of a q (for qirsh).

Quite a lot of Ottoman silver, especially from Constantinople, has no explicit denomination and you have to go by size/weight.