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Indo-Sassanian?
« on: October 23, 2008, 06:48:37 PM »
From the few examples I found online, I think this is an Indo-Sassanian coin. I couldn't find much info on them though. The obverse shows the crude profile of the king and the reverse appears to show a fire altar. Can anyone please provide more info on this one and Indo-Sassanian coins in general?

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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 10:27:26 PM »
Dear Overlord,
This is an un-attributed Indo -sasanian coin struck during the period of the Pratihara - Pala supremacy and bearing Brahmi characters (ca. AD780 - 980). According to Mitchiner, these coins form a coherent series that was current in the Gujarat - Malwa region of the Gurjura Confederacy. The coins are more debased than those of the Pratihara series but, in general form, they diverged from early issues in that series. In this respect one can probably date the commencement of the series to the 8th century AD.
On your coin the Brahmi characters Sri Ha are shown in front of the bust. A similar piece is illustrated by Michael Mitchiner: Oriental coins and their values, Non-Islamic States & Western Colonies AD 600 - 1979. #358.
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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 10:52:19 PM »
The profile of the king and a fire altar?
Well, the coin from Oesho definitely helps.  Now I can see the King quite clearly. And what a Hat he wears! And I can see the fire altar. Thanks Oesho.
richie
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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 08:37:22 PM »
Thanks a ton, Oesho.

To me, this series appears a bit similar to the bull/horseman coins, with the images becoming more and more abstract in the later coins [as in the so-called Gadhiya Paisa (or ass-money) coins---coin 10 here].

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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 04:41:53 AM »
Just wondering. Since this coin was issued by the Pratihara rulers of Gujarat, would it be technically incorrect to refer to it as Indo-Sassanian? Perhaps 'Indo-Sassanian design' would be a more appropriate term. Also, what would be the denomination of this one---Dramma?

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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 01:19:11 PM »
You're right, that it were no Sasanian rulers who issued these coins, but the coins are derivatives of a Sasanian proto-type. The coins show even more influence from the Hepthalites (White Huns) and could therefore also be treated as Indo-Hepthalite coinage, however in Indian numismatics this term is never used.
The term Indo-Sasanian is commonly used to point out the derivatives of the Sasanian proto-types.
The denomination is generally described as a drachm, but in contemporary inscriptions they may have been described differently. Dramma is common name used in early inscriptions, which in turn is derived from drachm as well.

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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 08:18:37 PM »
Terrific question and answer Overlord and Oesho. Thank you both.
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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 05:07:32 PM »
You're right, that it were no Sasanian rulers who issued these coins, but the coins are derivatives of a Sasanian proto-type. The coins show even more influence from the Hepthalites (White Huns) and could therefore also be treated as Indo-Hepthalite coinage, however in Indian numismatics this term is never used.
The term Indo-Sasanian is commonly used to point out the derivatives of the Sasanian proto-types.
The denomination is generally described as a drachm, but in contemporary inscriptions they may have been described differently. Dramma is common name used in early inscriptions, which in turn is derived from drachm as well.

Thanks Oesho.

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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 04:57:38 AM »
Do these coins are also Indo Sassanian? Any attributes?
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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 05:04:01 AM »
Yes. The coppery appearance suggests them to be later issues.

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Re: Indo-Sassanian?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 05:30:12 AM »
Yes, they are copper. Thanks once again.