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Offline jardineiro

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Please Help in identification
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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 11:02:45 PM »
The first one looks like this:



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China, Northern Song dynasty (960-1127 AD.), emperor: Ren Zong (reign 1022-63 AD.), reign title: Jing You (1034-1038 AD.), issued 1034-1038 AD.,
1 Cash (25 mm / 3,12 g), cast, square center hole,
Obv.: 景 祐 元 寳 , Jing You Yuan Bao, clockwise, regular script.
Rev.: plain (square center hole).
Hartill 16.89 (rarity level 15, very common) ; Schjöth 494 ; FD 901 .

The rest will be solved later.

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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 11:00:07 PM »
I really appreciate your help, I'll be waiting for identification for the other coins, thank you.

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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2013, 02:23:53 PM »
This thread feel through the cracks. The cracks are a bit wider these days. Anyway, it would have been better to post these coins separately, as they should go onto different boards.

Your number 1: Remmelts 38. Emperor Jen Tsung, era ching yu (1034-1037) in standard script - up Ching, down Yu, left yuan, right pao.

Peter
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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2013, 02:25:28 PM »
Numbers 2 and 3 are 17th or 18th century Japanese mon. They are further determined by subtle differences in the characters.

Peter
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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2013, 02:31:06 PM »
Number 4: Remmelts 208g - emperor Kuang Hsu (1875-1908). obv: reign name and tung pao, rev: value established by the finance service of 1 chien, Kuang Tung (Guangdong).

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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 02:36:16 PM »
Number 5: Remmelts 191n emperor Sheng Tsu, era Kang Hsi (1662-1722). obv: reign name and tung pao, rev: nan (Honan). I think this is an imitation. If I say nothing of the kind about the others, that does not mean that they are guaranteed to be genuine.

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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 02:42:45 PM »
Number 6: Remmelts 196h emperor Wen Tsung, era Hsien Feng (1851-1861). obv: reign name and tung pao, rev: yun (Yunnan).

Peter
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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 06:13:58 AM »
Jardineiro,
Your #5 is Chekiang not Honan.   Werner Burger attributes it as issued 1669.   In any case it is between 1667 and 1674.   The genuine coin's diameter is 26mm.
Unless it is below that, it is genuine.   And if a contemporary forgery, then cast directly from a genuine coin, as its design is precisely correct.

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Re: Please Help in identification
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2013, 08:06:22 AM »
Coins 2 and 3 are Japanese Kan'ei Tsūhō (Kuanyong Tongbao if read in Chinese ;D)

Link about the Era Kan'ei (1624- 1623) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kan%27ei)
Link about the coin in Japanese (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%9B%E6%B0%B8%E9%80%9A%E5%AE%9D)

Minting of the coin continued until 19th century, long after Era Kan'ei ended.
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