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Korean 2 Mun 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
« on: May 12, 2013, 02:43:49 PM »
This was a recent internet purchase (gamble?) - but I can't find this type in Krause.

31mm - 6.3g
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Re: Korean Mun ?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 05:24:42 PM »
Hi

It is a two-mun coin cast at the Chinhyulch'ong or Charity Office' in Seoul. There are two issues of these with just top and bottom character on the reverse, the date of which depend on the interior diameter of the rim:
23-24 mm = 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
21 mm = 1742-52, 17.11A.0

Neither of these varieties are listed in KM, though other varieties with added crescents and circles (Mandel 17.13.0-17.16A.0) are KM 163-169 in the 18th century edition.

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Re: Korean Mun ?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 11:04:29 PM »
Thanks :)
Size for the inner circle is 24mm, so I guess it's the earlier type.
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Re: Korean 2 Mun 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 01:08:22 AM »
Is this a Chinhyulch'ong type?
23mm interior diameter.

And is it a real coin or a token?

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Re: Korean 2 Mun 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 01:53:20 AM »
Yes, Chinhyulch'ong or 'Charity Office', Seoul, 2 mun.

Again Mandel gives two types:
17.16.0, 'many varieties', 1695-1742
17.16A.0 'Similar to 17.16 but with 30 mm [external I assume] diameter', 1742-1752

These are all  'real' coins issued for circulation by government departments.

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Re: Korean 2 Mun 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 01:58:49 AM »
So can you tell for sure which one this is?:

17.16A  ?

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Yes, Chinhyulch'ong or 'Charity Office', Seoul, 2 mun.

Again Mandel gives two types:
17.16.0, 'many varieties', 1695-1742
17.16A.0 'Similar to 17.16 but with 30 mm [external I assume] diameter', 1742-1752

These are all  'real' coins issued for circulation by government departments.

Best wishes

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Re: Korean 2 Mun 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 02:18:38 AM »
The way I read it, if it is 30 mm diameter it will be 17.16A, and if it is noticeably larger (say 32 mm or more) then it will be 17.16.

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Re: Korean 2 Mun 1679-1695, Mandel 17.11.0
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2013, 04:13:25 AM »
I think it may be KM 169

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