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Started by <k>, October 05, 2012, 01:14:04 AM

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This would have have and still would make an excellent article for publication to share with many others.

I once nearly had an oportunity to gather some biographical information about the Austrian artist/engraver Karl Perl (born in 1876) from some descendants and I intended to publish it for posteriterity. They owned some unique works, tools and later photos.

After many initial positive communications and them providing some personal family photos they broke off communication suddendly and with no explanation. I haven't heard from them since almost 10 years.

That is the only real regret I can think of happening in my numismatic endevors over 45+ years.

What a crying shame that information will now likely be lost forever.

Dale

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#2
The initials "JP" in the field of the 1973 Cook Islands coin are interesting - 'John Pinches', in the transitional period of takeover by the Franklin Mint?

Also the issue showing Prince William on his 21st birthday would fit in with your "computers on coins" theme (assuming I haven't overlooked it there).

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Quote from: translateltd on October 18, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
The initials "JP" in the field of the 1973 Cook Islands coin are interesting - 'John Pinches', in the transitional period of takeover by the Franklin Mint?

According to Gerhard:

"The Cook Islands $2 of 1973 was minted by John Pinches (the UK subsidiary of Franklin Mint). It is listed as such in the Weltmünzkatalog. There are other coins with the JP mintmark as well, the best known is certainly the Bahamas $50
gold coin of 1973 (S#29, Y#28, KM#48)."

Quote from: translateltd on October 18, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
Also the issue showing Prince William on his 21st birthday would fit in with your "computers on coins" theme
Well spotted!
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#4
Have a look at these images:



Gibraltar, 10 pence, 2004.  Operation Torch, designed by Philip Nathan.




Gibraltar, 2 pence, 2005.  Operation Torch, designed by Philip Nathan.




Gibraltar, 5 pounds, 2004.  Operation Torch, designed by David Cornell. This was part of a series entitled "Route to Victory".

Mr Cornell told me in an email: "I designed and sculpted the whole set of "Route to Victory" for the Royal British Legion, hence the poppy. I have noticed that similar designs were done for Operation Torch, but I only did the design with the poppy attached."


I suspected that both artists must have used the same photo as a reference. Mr Cornell tells me: "My wife does the research and she has told me the photo used for the Operation Torch design was taken from the book "World War II", by Ivor Matanle, and then the background made up".




Can anybody identify the personalities who appear in the photo? I will be posting images of the "Route to Victory" series of coins later.
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Figleaf

I think the Americans are Omar Bradley (centre) an George Patton (right).

Peter
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<k>

#6
Thanks, Figleaf. And our member africancoins tells me that one of them could be General Sir Harold Alexander.


IOM 1 crown 1994.jpg

Isle of Man, 1 crown, 1994.  D-Day: General Omar Bradley. 

Join the army and get your portrait on a coin.  8)
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I agree on Alexander.  That begs the question of where the photo was taken, though, as I don't believe Alexander was personally involved in North Africa. BTW, I wouldn't have recognized any of the three from the coins.

Peter
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<k>

#8
Gibraltar 5 pounds 2004.jpg

Gibraltar, 5 pounds, 2004.


I have just had an email from David Cornell's wife, Gerry Cornell, who does a lot of research behind the scenes:

"Just something to add to your site-re Operation Torch coin. I noticed that there has been some interest as to who is shown on the coin.

General Sir Harold Alexander is on the left, General Eisenhower centre and Lieutenant General George Patton."
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Quote from: translateltd on October 18, 2012, 08:38:17 AM
The initials "JP" in the field of the 1973 Cook Islands coin are interesting - 'John Pinches', in the transitional period of takeover by the Franklin Mint?

After having noticed the success of Franklin Mint in the USA, by quick action the agile promoter Derek Pobjoy copyrighted the name "Franklin Mint" in Britain and demanded extortionate payment to release it. FM was obliged to do business as "John Pinches Ltd." until finally coming to costly agreement with Pobjoy.

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#10
UK Charles Investiture Leslie Ernest Pinches-.jpg


UK Charles Investiture Leslie Ernest Pinches~.jpg


So who is Leslie Ernest Pinches? Any relation? 

Maybe we should hive these comments off and create a separate topic for this.
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#11
David Cornell engraved also 5 coins from Alderney series "The History of the Monarchy". He engraved all five coins from The House of Tudor.

Does anybody know if he designed/engraved all remaining 18 coins from this series? On Numista this series is called "Kings and Queens of England"



Update: just found the auction with Henry V coin (House of Lancaster) and David Cornell is mentioned as designer on the CoA. So very probable that he engraved all 23 coins.

RnL

http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,17747.msg189503.html#msg189503


Trojan Horse.

There is also a Nickel version from 2000
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http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,17747.msg323053.html#msg323053

Turkey, 7,500,000 lira, 2000.  UNICEF issue.

Do you happen to have the source for this coin <k>?

This coin pops up in Turkish auctions but is not listed even on the State Mint website.
At first sight it resembles this one:

Big_M

Quote from: RnL on September 30, 2024, 11:49:13 PMTurkey, 7,500,000 lira, 2000.  UNICEF issue.

Do you happen to have the source for this coin <k>?

This coin pops up in Turkish auctions but is not listed even on the State Mint website.

The coin bears the mintmark of the Turkish State Mint beneath the face value.

It was part of a mulitnational UNICEF coin collection, probably managed by the Valcambi mint which produced most of the coins included in the collection. Some of the coins from the collections were sold individually by the issuing country's central banks. Perhaps, the one from Turkey was not sold localy and only available as part of the collection.

RnL

Quote from: Big_M on October 09, 2024, 04:52:14 PMThe coin bears the mintmark of the Turkish State Mint beneath the face value.

It was part of a mulitnational UNICEF coin collection, probably managed by the Valcambi mint which produced most of the coins included in the collection. Some of the coins from the collections were sold individually by the issuing country's central banks. Perhaps, the one from Turkey was not sold localy and only available as part of the collection.

Thanks.

It is true that the Turkish Mint was (and still is) in partnership with MDM, FAO, UNICEF and alike institutiins and from time to time foreign engravers' models are used for minting in Istanbul.
These are prime examples of such partnerships.

However, my question was more about the source for David Cornell being the engraver of this design (and maybe the one from 1979?)

I am compiling a list of the artists, sculptors & engravers who designed the Turkish coins and these two are among those that I am missing this information.

Maybe I needed to be more specific;
<k> did you get this info directly from Mr Cornell, or is there a certificate etc that lists him as the engraver of this coin?
It would help me greatly with my research.