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Offline inker03

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Japan, mon, from 1737, Nikko, Temple of Jakkoji
« on: May 16, 2012, 06:28:46 AM »
Hi, I'm new at this forum and I'd appreciate a little help with this coin.

Yersterday I bought a lot of coins, some were Turkish, Egipcyan, Japanese and this unidentified coin. I really don´t know mandarin or any east asian languege but I managed myself to identify the other coins. I'm from Argentina and I barelly speak english and portuguse, spanish is my firts language if you are wondering.

Well, this is the coin, it's size is something like 22-23mm and don´t have a electronic scale with me right now but I´ll try to measure it soon.






Thanks in advance if anyone knows anything about it

Martín
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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 06:35:52 AM »
Hi Martin and welcome,

Please give the diameter of the coin and the weight (if possible).

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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 06:53:30 AM »
Hi Martin and welcome,

Please give the diameter of the coin and the weight (if possible).

Hi and thnks, I added the requeried information to the main post, it´s size is 22-23mm, its smaller than a quarter.

Thanks again for your time,

Martín
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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 09:57:20 AM »

It is a Kanei Tsuho (Japanese coin) Issued for many years and tthe most common coin.

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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2012, 04:43:28 PM »
It is a Kanei Tsuho (Japanese coin) Issued for many years and tthe most common coin.


Weepio, thank you very very much, I didn´t expected to be weird, I just wanted to identify it. I believe you understand the language, don´t you? Could you translate it for me? I'm curious... I'm trying to find it in the Krause, do you know wich KM# or Y# is it?

I've to say that I'm really pleased with the forum in this my first experience with it, very quick and kind people, thanks!

If anyone wants to know anything from Argentinia´s coins don't doubt about asking

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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 05:16:12 PM »
I think C# 1.1 (1636-1656), but there may be hundreds of different type concerning calligraphy

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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 05:52:59 PM »
Catalogue number in the SCWC would probably be C 1.1, although this catalogue number is dated 1636 and I think your coin is the 1728 Sendai issue. Japanese coins are extremely confusing. Small details are deemed to determine different mints or periods and the field abounds in fakes.

The two horizontal characters are Chinese. They mean "current coin". Their pronunciation in Japanese is different. The vertical characters are Kan'ei Tsuho (Japanese: 寛永). Kan'ei is an era in Japanse history. Tsuho stands for perpetual. Even though the Kan'ei era ended in 1643, the characters remained in use for two centuries.

Peter
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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 09:23:37 PM »
Hi Martin and welcome,

@ Figleaf:
very good work.  :D

The Coin is a Kanei Tsuho from Sendai, Mutsu Province - from the Ishinomaki Mint.
Made from 1728 to 1732.
JNDA (2011): page 132, number 19
Ogawa Yoshinori; Shin Kanei Tsuho; The Katalog of Japanese Coins; Japan 1987 - No.:126
David Hartill, Early Japanese Coins - No.: 4.138

寛=Kan (chinese - kuan)
永=Ei (chinese - yong)
通=Tsu (chinese - Tong)
寶=Ho (chinese - Bao)

I hope this something helps...

many greetings from Germany...
at the moment rain and 10°C
pingu

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Re: Unidentified Chinese/East Asia Coin
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 01:49:38 AM »
Thanks to everybody!

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Re: Japan, mon 1728-1736 Sendai
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2012, 07:46:20 PM »
This is in fact Early Japanese Coins 4.163. Nikko, Temple of Jakkoji, Shimotsuke Province. From 1737.

David Hartill. Author of Early Japanese coins.

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Re: Japan, mon, from 1737, Nikko, Temple of Jakkoji
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2012, 07:58:57 PM »
Thank you, David. There's plenty of other good stuff for you to look at on this board. Please enjoy World of Coins!

Peter
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Re: Japan, mon 1728-1736 Sendai
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 10:03:52 PM »
This is in fact Early Japanese Coins 4.163. Nikko, Temple of Jakkoji, Shimotsuke Province. From 1737.

David Hartill. Author of Early Japanese coins.


Thank you very much, I believe the explanation is as accurate as it can be.



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Re: Japan, mon, from 1737, Nikko, Temple of Jakkoji
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2012, 10:56:36 PM »
Hello Mr. Hartill,

welcome to WOC.

There a mistake seems to have crept with me.
Thanks for the correction and excuse to the inker03.

Greetings from Germany
pingu