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Offline capnbirdseye

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Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« on: March 05, 2012, 06:54:54 PM »
Coins seemingly struck by local warlords ? very crudely made dies, first coin,  small mishaped coin, Paisa struck at Qandahar  weight  2.65g KM#964

Second coin, Paisa, overstruck on coin of Iran I think,  weight 2.97g

The machine struck Paisa, struck at Kabul has been struck without a collar although it must have circulated due to the wear it shows.
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 12:38:36 AM »
That's the stuff I love.  :D

First coin: Interesting is the "regular" mistake in the date 3313

Second coin: A spectacular overstrike!

Third coin: Missing the 9 of the date. The 9 usually hangs a little bit down, as it was recut in the stamp from the former 8, using the legs of the 8 for the circle of the 9. Here I see only 130.

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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 01:59:43 AM »
I think I see a vague 8.

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An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 11:02:56 PM »
I think I see a vague 8.

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It's hard to tell even under a magnifying glass, there is a very faint sign of something but I can't be sure
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 12:04:14 PM »
Here's a couple more,  the larger one  25mm  weight 8g,           It seems to have an Aliens face  ;D ;D ;D

Smaller one weight 4g
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2012, 07:32:18 PM »
Let's start to attribute some of the coins shown above.
The first one (Afghan3) is a paisa of Qandhahar, AH1333. Ref.: KM#963 (SAC).
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 09:14:11 PM »
Afghaan2. This looks to be an local paisa of Herat.
The legend reads: Dar al-Sultanat Herat. No date
Reverse: Mosque with denomination 'Eek paisa' below.

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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 09:27:12 PM »
The last illustrated coin (also named 'Afgaan3') shows a leaf between two swords on the reverse.
The obverse legend is highly mutilated, but coins with this reverse are attributed to Qandahar mint.
Known date AH1295. On this coin 129 is clearly visible.
Ref.: KM#92

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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 09:56:35 PM »
thank you Oesho, these crudely struck coins are not to everyones taste but I find them fascinating  8)
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2012, 06:44:06 PM »
This large & very thin coin  has to be the worst yet,   ;D  I can see zarb & Mohammad?  both side have a strange smoothed out section in the middle as though deliberately erased for some reason

weight 3,58g    AE 25-30mm
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 11:18:54 PM »
Kalat, Khudadad Khan (AH1274-1311/AD1857-1893), i.n.o. Mahmud Khan Durrani, Falus.
Ref.: C#10.

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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 11:37:36 PM »
I did think of Kalat when I saw part of the legend was similar but couldn't recognise anything from the other side, it still looks like it has been defaced with a broad triangular area on both sides.
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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 11:55:20 PM »
Crudely struck coins are not just something from this area of the world. Many of the coins of the great Byzantine Empire go through periods of being poorly struck on poor base metal and overstrikes can be common.

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Re: Afghanistan, crudely struck coins
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2012, 02:37:13 AM »
Here's a couple more,  the larger one  25mm  weight 8g,           It seems to have an Aliens face  ;D ;D ;D

Smaller one weight 4g

Cool specimens. This is not my area of expertise, but I love what you posted. I especially like the first specimen on this frame. The reverse design looks like a Picasso painting. Thanks for sharing these.