Palembang Pitis Coins Date?

[Stan]

Hi, I know these are Palembang coins, but I can't date them. Can anyone help?

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Many Palembang pitis are not dated, NvdC gives as first date 1061 AH (1650/1 AD) and as last date 1219 AH (1804/5 AD).

The coin on the left is NvdC 196 dated 1219 (9 running into 1). I do not recognize the second and third coin. The fourth coin is NvdC 190, dated 1130 AH (1717/8 AD)

Peter

[Stan]

Thanks for replying so quickly Peter!
So, you're saying the octagonal coin is dated 1219, correct?

What about the two on the far right? I've found a bunch of pitis without holes (like my far right coin), but the dating doesn't seem to match. Or maybe I'm not looking at the correct markings for the date...

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Correct. Here is the date.

Peter

[Stan]

Thanks!
Any ideas on the two on the far right?

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Here is the date that NvdC read as 1130. The illustration in the book doesn't show the zero either.

Peter

[andyg]

3rd coin is this one,
http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,7697.msg50506.html#msg50506

[Stan]

Thanks again Peter!
Andyg, the third coin is dated 22. 22 what? 1222AH?

[andyg]

Andyg, the third coin is dated 22. 22 what? 1222AH?

Oesho provided the answer a few posts below the one I linked to.

These type of pitis are undated and with corrupted Malay-Arabic inscription.
See for another specimen of the same type: http://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=46683

[Stan]

Got it!
Do you have any ideas about the second coin? Maybe the ruler or something?

[natko]

I believe it's #7 on my post here http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,7697.msg82879.html#msg82879

Peter has referenced it to NvdC#212

Unfortunately, I don't know much more of the piece. Whole Palembang sultanate is veiled in mysteries.

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NvdC 212?, rather. The question mark is important. Stan, I'd be happy to send you (or any other member) a scan of the relevant pages in NvdC, if you wish. Let me know by PM.

Peter