Author Topic: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century  (Read 21716 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline andyg

  • Global Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3 473
  • DERBYS UK
Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« on: June 29, 2011, 11:51:08 PM »
Parent topic: Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century


more that I thought of,
2008 Egypt
2008 Mexico (see New Zealand Criteria)

2008 Zimbabwe (only 2 designs, dated 2003) - not enough change.
2006 Central African States
2006 Georgia
2006 Nigeria
2006 Paraguay

2005 North Korea
2005 Romania
2005 Turkey
2004 Afghanistan
2004 Iran
2004 Iraq
2004 Isle of Man
2003 Armenia
2003 Sudan - borderline: 2 versions of 10 dinar, metal change to 5 dinar.
2003 Syria - borderline in terms of significance, I think.
2003 Vietnam
2002 Morocco
2001 San Marino
2001 Tajikistan
2001 Turkey
2001 Uzbekistan
2001 Vatican
2000 Ecuador

2000 Isle of Man
2000 San Marino
2000 Yugoslavia
2000 Trans-Nistria
2000 Vatican


2009 Mauritania,
All coins changed size, 1 Ougiya changed metal too.  20 Ougiya went to Bi-met, 50 Ougiya new denomination.


2009 Libya
All four now plated steel, also dual dated 2009-1377 - not enough change.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2011, 10:24:47 PM by coffeetime »
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

Offline Figleaf

  • Administrator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29 611
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 11:29:22 PM »
Up to 2010, Vatican coins did not circulate and were sold (way) over face value. Under pressure from the EU, the Vatican squeaked and issued some 50 cent coins that were in circulation for at least half an hour, I suppose. Not sure if San Marino ever issued euro coins at face, but it seems unlikely. Some of their pre-euro coins circulated, but that was related to coin scarcity in Italy.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Offline andyg

  • Global Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3 473
  • DERBYS UK
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 11:53:23 PM »
Up to 2010, Vatican coins did not circulate and were sold (way) over face value. Under pressure from the EU, the Vatican squeaked and issued some 50 cent coins that were in circulation for at least half an hour, I suppose. Not sure if San Marino ever issued euro coins at face, but it seems unlikely. Some of their pre-euro coins circulated, but that was related to coin scarcity in Italy.

Peter

2000 and 2001 were pre euro.....
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

Offline <k>

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 20 323
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 12:03:43 AM »
Given that SM & V seem to be a grey area circulation-wise, I'm not inclined to include them. Do you own any of their euro sets, Andy?

It occurs to me that I'll have to rearrange my topic so that I start with 2000, because in future years I can't easily add, say, 2012, to the TOP of the topic. Once I've popped my clogs, old geezer that I am, Andy will have to take over my duties. I can just imagine him typing away in AD 2100, having popped into the chemist to top up on his immortality drugs.  ;D

Offline Figleaf

  • Administrator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29 611
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 12:06:57 AM »
2000 and 2001 were pre euro.....

San Marino is a predictable and fertile area for this thread: one whole new set every year.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Offline andyg

  • Global Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3 473
  • DERBYS UK
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 12:55:32 AM »
Given that SM & V seem to be a grey area circulation-wise, I'm not inclined to include them. Do you own any of their euro sets, Andy?


I have a complete set of circulation euro's from San Marino (though in practice I doubt the circulated much but the intention was there!)  For Vatican I own a 50 cent 2010 which so far is othe only Vatican Euro to be minted in quantity.  Some of the pre euro (pre 2002) stuff did circulate, but others didn't (mainly anythig smaller than 50 lire in latter years)

A minor correction to Turkey if you would be so kind,
2005 was the revaluation currency (also your picture for 2005 shows a 2009 coin), in 2009 a new set was released and the old coins withdrawn.
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

Offline andyg

  • Global Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3 473
  • DERBYS UK
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 01:01:42 AM »
see here for the curious set of North Korean coins issued in 2009.
always willing to trade modern UK coins for modern coins from elsewhere....

Offline <k>

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 20 323
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2011, 11:14:20 AM »
How about the situation in Monaco? Do we find any of their euros circulating, or are they as scarce as the SAn Marino and Vatican versions? Pre-euro, I imagine only French currency circulated in Monaco.

Offline Figleaf

  • Administrator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29 611
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2011, 11:57:13 AM »
Pre-euro Monaco coins circulated freely in Monaco and even in Nice, though only the most used values turned up. Post-euro coins are issued at face but snapped up immediately and sold at a premium. Not all coins in sets are issued to circulation.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Offline <k>

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 20 323
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2011, 12:01:17 PM »
Pre-euro Monaco coins circulated freely in Monaco and even in Nice, though only the most used values turned up. Post-euro coins are issued at face but snapped up immediately and sold at a premium. Not all coins in sets are issued to circulation.

Peter

Interesting. And Monaco has gone post-euro? So the currency IS collapsing.  :-\

Offline Figleaf

  • Administrator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29 611
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2011, 01:22:40 PM »
Yes, little remains of the French franc, let alone the Monegask franc. Only my bank still believes it needs to convert all amounts in the statements they send me. Otherwise, the nouveau franc is just a fun memory :)

Detail: in Franconian times, people wanting to impress would state the price of e.g. a house or an expensive car in ancien francs, even four decades after it had disappeared.

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Offline Bimat

  • आदित्य
  • Global Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11 373
  • Mumbai, India.
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2011, 07:13:34 PM »
The Vatican 50 cent coin of 2010 circulated to a good extent; many Italian collectors actually got it in change. Not a bad start for their first 'circulating' coin IMO. ;)

San Marinese coins circulate pretty well, but not the higher denominations (1 and 2).

Monegasque euro coins have been reported in circulation but not so often. But yes, some of them do circulate.

Aditya
It is our choices...that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. -J. K. Rowling.

Offline chrisild

  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8 552
  • NW DE EU
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2011, 07:24:52 PM »
Right, all three have issued coins for circulation. I think we have talked about that several times before. ;) The Vatican used to be bad in that regard, but as you mentioned, that has changed. San Marino has always issued its euro and cent coins for circulation - not terribly many, of course, but heck, it is not exactly a big country. (And yes, yours truly has received SM coins in change in San Marino last year for example.) Now Monaco is a sore subject. Apparently the pieces do show up in the wild from time to time, but they sure are rare.

Christian

Offline <k>

  • Moderator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 20 323
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2011, 08:50:45 PM »
Out of curiosity, I looked up the estimated population figures of ALL the European micro-states:

Andorra        84,082
Liechtenstein 36,157
Monaco        35,000
San Marino    31,887
Vatican City       500

Gibraltar, a British Overseas Territory:    29,000
Jersey (British Crown Dependency):       92,500
Guernsey (British Crown Dependency):   62,431
Isle of Man (British Crown Dependency): 83,000

Andorra does not - as yet - issue circulation coins, neither does Liechtenstein.

All the other states of Europe have populations of at least six figures in number.


« Last Edit: July 02, 2011, 11:03:56 AM by coffeetime »

Offline Figleaf

  • Administrator
  • Honorary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29 611
Re: Comments on Major New Circulation Sets of the 21st Century
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2011, 03:00:53 AM »
Wikipedia has a sortable list of populations by country. Click on the sort symbol in the header to sort. They got Vatican city at 500...

Peter
An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.